Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

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glenrobbo

35,295 posts

151 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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FidoGoRetroGo said:
In Star Trek, they beam people from a transporter pad, to a place without a transporter pad. They also beam people from such a place, back to a transporter pad.

Additionally, as was seen in the first of the new Star Trek movies (set before all other Star Trek), they can beam from a place without a transporter pad, to another place without a transporter pad.

So... what's the point of the transporter pads?
Err.. umm... I'm not sure how to break this to you gently, so I'll just come straight out with it:

Star Trek is not real. It's just pretend.

Sorry.

DickyC

49,815 posts

199 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Why does loosely covering food stop it going stale? I could understand if it was airtight but just covering it wouldn't stop air getting to it. Is movement of air across the food a key part of the process?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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glenrobbo said:
FidoGoRetroGo said:
In Star Trek, they beam people from a transporter pad, to a place without a transporter pad. They also beam people from such a place, back to a transporter pad.

Additionally, as was seen in the first of the new Star Trek movies (set before all other Star Trek), they can beam from a place without a transporter pad, to another place without a transporter pad.

So... what's the point of the transporter pads?
Err.. umm... I'm not sure how to break this to you gently, so I'll just come straight out with it:

Star Trek is not real. It's just pretend.

Sorry.
All the more reason for logical consistency. To be honest Star Trek writers do usually try to signal that 'we know we are taking liberties with the science, but it's all for the sake of the plot. EG 'Heisenburg compensators'.

My preferred explanation is that the range is greater using transporter pads.

colonel c

7,890 posts

240 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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DavieW said:
With all this Brexit talk of Article 50; is there, and if so what are, the 49 articles before this magic number 50?
It’s actually a button, kept deep beneath the Place du Luxembourg.
In order to ‘invoke’ it Mrs May will have to perform ‘the walk of atonement’. This will require The PM to walk naked from British Embassy near the Brussels Schuman Bus station to the Place du Luxembourg. She will be followed by all 28 European Commissioners plus two UK decentres (Nicola Sturgeon and Tim Farron). They will all be dressed in sackcloth habis and will chant 'Shame' or 'la honte' as she walk.

Then after the pressing. The gathering Will break for tea or coffee. Have a little chat and then go home.




Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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DavieW said:
With all this Brexit talk of Article 50; is there, and if so what are, the 49 articles before this magic number 50?
http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the-lisbon-treaty/treaty-on-european-union-and-comments/title-6-final-provisions/136-article-49.html

glazbagun

14,282 posts

198 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
All the more reason for logical consistency. To be honest Star Trek writers do usually try to signal that 'we know we are taking liberties with the science, but it's all for the sake of the plot. EG 'Heisenburg compensators'.

My preferred explanation is that the range is greater using transporter pads.
Was about to mention the compensator, great response by the writers. hehe

Plot often seems to overrule the universe reality in films though. In the last one they'd already shown Kirk being transported whilst falling, knew where the bad guy was heading... And yet rather than just beaming the bad guy to a jail cell they sent Kirk up there for some fisticuffs, had Scotty fight with a computer he couldn't beat... And then beamed the bad guy out into space anyway.

colonel c

7,890 posts

240 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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FidoGoRetroGo said:
In Star Trek, they beam people from a transporter pad, to a place without a transporter pad. They also beam people from such a place, back to a transporter pad.

Additionally, as was seen in the first of the new Star Trek movies (set before all other Star Trek), they can beam from a place without a transporter pad, to another place without a transporter pad.

So... what's the point of the transporter pads?
The way I read it. Is to liken the transporter to your broadband router. The Wi-Fi connection usually work but sometimes it becomes unstable, where as a wired connection is much more reliable. So the transporter pads in the transporter room would be the default starting and ending point, unless necessity dictated otherwise.
Also it’s probably easier to film and can help with the plot by adding some useful dialog. smile

colonel c

7,890 posts

240 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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How do I manage to sleep through very loud music?
I often attempt to listen to some music in bed. But sometimes I fall asleep within seconds of the start of a track. Sometimes I sleep through two or three more tracks and then wake up. Then I find it difficult to sleep again.
I wonder if it’s something to do with using earbuds as opposed to loud speakers.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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FidoGoRetroGo said:
In Star Trek, they beam people from a transporter pad, to a place without a transporter pad. They also beam people from such a place, back to a transporter pad.

Additionally, as was seen in the first of the new Star Trek movies (set before all other Star Trek), they can beam from a place without a transporter pad, to another place without a transporter pad.

So... what's the point of the transporter pads?
Interim stop at the pad,(which ends up on cutting room floor because it's a film) then instant retranspotation to new position?
Can't believe I'm theorising about this.



Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Not a football fan so probably a naïve question.

Is Jose Mourinho always deeply deeply pissed off or does he just look like it?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,408 posts

151 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
Not a football fan so probably a naïve question.

Is Jose Mourinho always deeply deeply pissed off or does he just look like it?
He's a very bad loser, but to be fair to him, he hasn't had that much practice. He looks miserable when he isn't winning, which of late, has been more often than he is used to. He can sometimes be miserable when he wins but not in the manner or by the margin he was hoping for.

227bhp

10,203 posts

129 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Where did the Mac come from in Fleetwood Mac?

deeen

6,081 posts

246 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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DickyC said:
Why does loosely covering food stop it going stale? I could understand if it was airtight but just covering it wouldn't stop air getting to it. Is movement of air across the food a key part of the process?
Maybe depends on the food? With some, is it because it stops the spores, fungus, yeast and bacteria in the air from physically landing on it? With other stuff, maybe because it slows the drying out process (if air circulates freely, it will dry out faster)?

MissChief

7,117 posts

169 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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FidoGoRetroGo said:
In Star Trek, they beam people from a transporter pad, to a place without a transporter pad. They also beam people from such a place, back to a transporter pad.

Additionally, as was seen in the first of the new Star Trek movies (set before all other Star Trek), they can beam from a place without a transporter pad, to another place without a transporter pad.

So... what's the point of the transporter pads?
Transporters were 'invented' by Gene Roddenberry because the original series didn't have the budget for Shuttler interiors and, at the time, expensive SFX shots.

john2443

6,341 posts

212 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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227bhp said:
Where did the Mac come from in Fleetwood Mac?
Mick Fleetwood ate a Big Mac and liked it so much he used it in the band name.

No...not really. It's from John McVie.

Nimby

4,601 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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DickyC said:
Why does loosely covering food stop it going stale? I could understand if it was airtight but just covering it wouldn't stop air getting to it. Is movement of air across the food a key part of the process?
Strictly speaking only bread, cake, biscuits etc go stale; it's a change in texture due to water molecules leaving (or entering) starch granules. It happens regardless of air movement but varies by temperature - bread goes stale quicker when cold than at room temperature so should never be stored in a fridge.

Mould spores are everywhere so covering wouldn't stop food going mouldy either. I suppose the only advantage is to keep dust and flies off, and to reduce drying out a bit.

All explained in this excellent book.

FidoGoRetroGo

125 posts

90 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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MissChief said:
FidoGoRetroGo said:
In Star Trek, they beam people from a transporter pad, to a place without a transporter pad. They also beam people from such a place, back to a transporter pad.

Additionally, as was seen in the first of the new Star Trek movies (set before all other Star Trek), they can beam from a place without a transporter pad, to another place without a transporter pad.

So... what's the point of the transporter pads?
Transporters were 'invented' by Gene Roddenberry because the original series didn't have the budget for Shuttler interiors and, at the time, expensive SFX shots.
Oh I get the point of having transporters, my question was about what the pads do when it's clear that transportation without the pads is possible.

As an aside to my inital post, I think Scotty does use a transported pad when doing his "transwarp" beaming move.

I think that extended range/safety/reliability is probably the answer.

RenesisEvo

3,615 posts

220 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Nimby said:
...bread goes stale quicker when cold than at room temperature so should never be stored in a fridge.
Agreed, and yet I keep it in the fridge because I've found time and time again, a loaf outside the fridge goes mouldy in a few days, but one in the fridge, whilst more stale, remains edible far, far longer.

The best solution is to freeze it on purchase, and defrost what you need as you require, especially for proper bread from a bakery that I could never consume fast enough.

Nimby

4,601 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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RenesisEvo said:
Nimby said:
...bread goes stale quicker when cold than at room temperature so should never be stored in a fridge.
Agreed, and yet I keep it in the fridge because I've found time and time again, a loaf outside the fridge goes mouldy in a few days, but one in the fridge, whilst more stale, remains edible far, far longer.

The best solution is to freeze it on purchase, and defrost what you need as you require, especially for proper bread from a bakery that I could never consume fast enough.
A fresh whole loaf gets eaten here in a day or two so doesn't get the time to go mouldy, and we keep sliced in the freezer for toast.

deeen

6,081 posts

246 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Nimby said:
Strictly speaking only bread, cake, biscuits etc go stale; it's a change in texture due to water molecules leaving (or entering) starch granules. It happens regardless of air movement but varies by temperature - bread goes stale quicker when cold than at room temperature so should never be stored in a fridge.

Mould spores are everywhere so covering wouldn't stop food going mouldy either. I suppose the only advantage is to keep dust and flies off, and to reduce drying out a bit.

All explained in this excellent book.
Staleness... where do the water molecules go, if the air around the food is already 100% humidity?

Spores... how would the spores land on the food, if it's covered? Yes some spores will be inside the cover, but the food is protected from all the other bugs in the kitchen.

The wiki link is just o a book, not to an explanation of the above.

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