Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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berlintaxi said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why are the toilets in DIY stores always in such dreadful condition. Bits missing, bits broken, stuff leaking. FFS, the stuff needed to fix it up to look presentable are on the damn shelves.
Where do you think plumbers source their parts?
They steal them from the B&Q customer toilets!?

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
There's been films and series about what the world would look like if Hitler had won the war but what would the world have looked like now if there had been no war?
Western Europe would have many Eastern European immigrants who had left their country for a better life - and France would be swinging to the far right.

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Thursday 9th February 2017
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talksthetorque said:
Funkycoldribena said:
There's been films and series about what the world would look like if Hitler had won the war but what would the world have looked like now if there had been no war?
Western Europe would have many Eastern European immigrants who had left their country for a better life - and France would be swinging to the far right.
Airfix would have gone out of business.

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

152 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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talksthetorque said:
Funkycoldribena said:
There's been films and series about what the world would look like if Hitler had won the war but what would the world have looked like now if there had been no war?
Western Europe would have many Eastern European immigrants who had left their country for a better life - and France would be swinging to the far right.
The war did advance technology in many areas, so maybe we would be a bit behind, maybe no nuclear power as there would have been no nuclear weapon research. Also may have taken a long time to develop computers or jet engines. Society moved on in different ways too, women started doing a lot of jobs they couldn't have before, which spurred on a lot of women's liberation after the war.

Cities would look a lot different as their historic centres would have survived, but whether the architects of the 60s would have destroyed them we don't know. There would also be a lot more Jews still alive along with more people in general.

To be fair, if there hadn't been Hitler there would probably have been another war at some other point, probably involving Russia trying to expand its influence to the west.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Rostfritt said:
The war did advance technology in many areas, so maybe we would be a bit behind, maybe no nuclear power as there would have been no nuclear weapon research. Also may have taken a long time to develop computers or jet engines. Society moved on in different ways too, women started doing a lot of jobs they couldn't have before, which spurred on a lot of women's liberation after the war.
I've often wondered what would have happened to fighter design. Would the notion of a fighter that was a monoplane with a retractable undercarriage but still had a propeller be regarded as a temporary expedient obsolete before it was fully developed and not really remembered because their brief heyday didn't coincide with a big war? Or would their heyday have stretched into the 1960s because jet development would have been slower?

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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the war industrialised a lot of Europe that was still farming with horses and lots of manual labour, Russia got millions of vehicles and loads of factories, everyone got loads of cargo ships (which directly started the shipping container business and quick loading/unloading)


Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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What is it about certain car paints that make them so much more expensive than other paints?

Watching Fast n Loud, they sent off a car for a '$30,000 paint job' which we then saw Mike, the usual paint guy, applying by mixing together various quantities of paint from his selection.

when usually, on say Wheeler Dealers, they respray a car for £4-5k.

I can't believe that it is all the cost of the labour, because they use Mike on FnL for all their paint work and it doesnt usually cost that much.

P-Jay

10,592 posts

192 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Shakermaker said:
What is it about certain car paints that make them so much more expensive than other paints?

Watching Fast n Loud, they sent off a car for a '$30,000 paint job' which we then saw Mike, the usual paint guy, applying by mixing together various quantities of paint from his selection.

when usually, on say Wheeler Dealers, they respray a car for £4-5k.

I can't believe that it is all the cost of the labour, because they use Mike on FnL for all their paint work and it doesnt usually cost that much.
There is a big labour difference between a decent respray and a show quality paint job. Fn'L is either a bit light on detail or perhaps Gas Monkey are a bit lacklustre - but if you watched 'American Hotrod' back in the 2000s you'd see how labour intensive it was - they'd usually start with a new body, but even that would have lots of filler added then sanded back till it was fractions of a mm think to make sure it was completely flat, then multiple layers of paint, sometimes different colours to produce certain looks and 'wet sanded' - as soon as the paint is dry they're at it with super fine sandpaper and water to remove any hint of 'orange peal' and then more coats of 'clear'.

Also the paint is seriously expensive

http://www.houseofkolor.com/kolors/

Wheeler Dealers is more 'everyday' - production paint and little body work, I'm sure it's still good - same or slightly better than new, but it's not show quality.

RizzoTheRat

25,224 posts

193 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Dr Jekyll said:
I've often wondered what would have happened to fighter design. Would the notion of a fighter that was a monoplane with a retractable undercarriage but still had a propeller be regarded as a temporary expedient obsolete before it was fully developed and not really remembered because their brief heyday didn't coincide with a big war? Or would their heyday have stretched into the 1960s because jet development would have been slower?
Im guessing the latter.
Same here. Engine design would have been driven by the passenger aircraft market, which wants low running costs and reliability. Early engines were thirsty and high maintenance (something like 20 hour life on ME262's engines), but were quick, so attractive to military despite thier flaws. It would have taken a long time to evolve that in something that made sense for passenger aircraft without early military investment

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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P-Jay said:
Shakermaker said:
What is it about certain car paints that make them so much more expensive than other paints?

Watching Fast n Loud, they sent off a car for a '$30,000 paint job' which we then saw Mike, the usual paint guy, applying by mixing together various quantities of paint from his selection.

when usually, on say Wheeler Dealers, they respray a car for £4-5k.

I can't believe that it is all the cost of the labour, because they use Mike on FnL for all their paint work and it doesnt usually cost that much.
There is a big labour difference between a decent respray and a show quality paint job. Fn'L is either a bit light on detail or perhaps Gas Monkey are a bit lacklustre - but if you watched 'American Hotrod' back in the 2000s you'd see how labour intensive it was - they'd usually start with a new body, but even that would have lots of filler added then sanded back till it was fractions of a mm think to make sure it was completely flat, then multiple layers of paint, sometimes different colours to produce certain looks and 'wet sanded' - as soon as the paint is dry they're at it with super fine sandpaper and water to remove any hint of 'orange peal' and then more coats of 'clear'.

Also the paint is seriously expensive

http://www.houseofkolor.com/kolors/

Wheeler Dealers is more 'everyday' - production paint and little body work, I'm sure it's still good - same or slightly better than new, but it's not show quality.
ah, so the price they quote includes all the labour and bodywork you reckon?

P-Jay

10,592 posts

192 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Shakermaker said:
P-Jay said:
Shakermaker said:
What is it about certain car paints that make them so much more expensive than other paints?

Watching Fast n Loud, they sent off a car for a '$30,000 paint job' which we then saw Mike, the usual paint guy, applying by mixing together various quantities of paint from his selection.

when usually, on say Wheeler Dealers, they respray a car for £4-5k.

I can't believe that it is all the cost of the labour, because they use Mike on FnL for all their paint work and it doesnt usually cost that much.
There is a big labour difference between a decent respray and a show quality paint job. Fn'L is either a bit light on detail or perhaps Gas Monkey are a bit lacklustre - but if you watched 'American Hotrod' back in the 2000s you'd see how labour intensive it was - they'd usually start with a new body, but even that would have lots of filler added then sanded back till it was fractions of a mm think to make sure it was completely flat, then multiple layers of paint, sometimes different colours to produce certain looks and 'wet sanded' - as soon as the paint is dry they're at it with super fine sandpaper and water to remove any hint of 'orange peal' and then more coats of 'clear'.

Also the paint is seriously expensive

http://www.houseofkolor.com/kolors/

Wheeler Dealers is more 'everyday' - production paint and little body work, I'm sure it's still good - same or slightly better than new, but it's not show quality.
ah, so the price they quote includes all the labour and bodywork you reckon?
On yeah I'd certainly guess so, I mean it's a US show so it's going to be hyped up to the max, "It's gone off to have $5000 worth of paint" doesn't sound as good. It'll be an equivalent cost of having it done elsewhere, plus a bit and rounded up for TV.

Misfit Garage still sub out their paint jobs - I don't pretend to understand why some cost $10k and why some cost $20k but they do. They always want 6-12 weeks to do it, so there's a lot of labour involved.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

262 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Why do car leasing deals have a deposit? Why not just 24/36/48 equal payments?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Dr Jekyll said:
Why do car leasing deals have a deposit? Why not just 24/36/48 equal payments?
To make the deal sound more attractive, surely?

"Wow, only £150 a month? I can afford that!" (with a deposit of £3000) sounds a lot better than "Wow, only £250 a month!" to many mpeople

Bluedot

3,599 posts

108 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Shakermaker said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Why do car leasing deals have a deposit? Why not just 24/36/48 equal payments?
To make the deal sound more attractive, surely?

"Wow, only £150 a month? I can afford that!" (with a deposit of £3000) sounds a lot better than "Wow, only £250 a month!" to many mpeople
Agreed. These days the deposit prices are going through the roof (9 X monthly lease ?!) while the mileage allowance gets lower and lower, 8000 a year ? smile
All to keep that magical monthly figure as low as poss.



Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Is it right to leave 'uncontacted' tribes in their remote stone-age isolation, where they are not protected by modern healthcare, laws or morality, or should they be brought into the modern world?


48k

13,213 posts

149 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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You mean like the Isle of Wight?

FlyingMeeces

9,932 posts

212 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Nezquick said:
Here's a question for you:

If someone is born blind, do they dream? And if they do, what do they dream of and how?
I've had, and can remember, dreams which were only sound and sensation with no visuals - imagine that the tiny number of people who are born with absolutely no sight/light perception at all (pretty rare!) would have dreams with the same range of sensory input as they live their lives with.

P-Jay

10,592 posts

192 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Is it right to leave 'uncontacted' tribes in their remote stone-age isolation, where they are not protected by modern healthcare, laws or morality, or should they be brought into the modern world?
I can be the lessor of two evils. Being suddenly exposed to 'the modern world' kills more people than it helps - Native Americans, Aboriginal Australians almost wiped at times.

Even with modern sensibilities, without being exposed to even minor (to us) diseases means they can be devastating to them.

br d

8,404 posts

227 months

Friday 10th February 2017
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P-Jay said:
I can be the lessor of two evils. Being suddenly exposed to 'the modern world' kills more people than it helps - Native Americans, Aboriginal Australians almost wiped at times.

Even with modern sensibilities, without being exposed to even minor (to us) diseases means they can be devastating to them.
I think I'd rather have smallpox than facebook.

Edited by br d on Friday 10th February 21:54

Borroxs

20,911 posts

248 months

Saturday 11th February 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Is it right to leave 'uncontacted' tribes in their remote stone-age isolation, where they are not protected by modern healthcare, laws or morality, or should they be brought into the modern world?
Leaving them where they are protects them from modern healthcare. 10 minutes in a morning western hospital would see them exposed to many deadly bugs they currently do not encounter.
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