Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 3]

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Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Vipers said:
Why do cars have three point seatbelts and planes have lap belts.

If as we know, lap belts are bloody dangerous in cars, why not so in planes.




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Equally, why don't airliner lifejackets have crotch straps? An airliner lifejacket will not keep your head out of the water for very long because the lack of a crotch strap means it will ride up.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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Ayahuasca said:
Vipers said:
Why do cars have three point seatbelts and planes have lap belts.

If as we know, lap belts are bloody dangerous in cars, why not so in planes.




smile
Equally, why don't airliner lifejackets have crotch straps? An airliner lifejacket will not keep your head out of the water for very long because the lack of a crotch strap means it will ride up.
Isn't it there to make you feel better, rather than to actually save your life?

Also, it has to be VERY simple to put on, by panicking people of all ages and physical abilities, in a very cramped space, perhaps in the dark, bouncing around, etc, etc,

Vipers

32,913 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th June 2015
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SpeckledJim said:
Ayahuasca said:
Vipers said:
Why do cars have three point seatbelts and planes have lap belts.

If as we know, lap belts are bloody dangerous in cars, why not so in planes.




smile
Equally, why don't airliner lifejackets have crotch straps? An airliner lifejacket will not keep your head out of the water for very long because the lack of a crotch strap means it will ride up.
Isn't it there to make you feel better, rather than to actually save your life?

Also, it has to be VERY simple to put on, by panicking people of all ages and physical abilities, in a very cramped space, perhaps in the dark, bouncing around, etc, etc,
Good job the offshore choppers have four point belts like rally drives.




smile

blade runner

1,035 posts

213 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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Hope it's not been done before, but when out running on pavements, cycle paths etc. I keep coming across these small metal dome head bolts and flat washers sunk into the tarmac/concrete. Always a bolt and a washer together, usually slightly rusty but worn smooth. Thought maybe they were just a UK thing, but was recently running on holiday in Florida and saw a load of them there as well. Doesn't seem to be any logical spacing between them (sometimes they are miles apart, other times one a few metres from the other) so my first thought (mile/km markers) doesn't seem to stack up. Any ideas?

The Don of Croy

6,003 posts

160 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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Vipers said:
Good job the offshore choppers have four point belts like rally drives.




smile
Do you wear immersion suits as well? But what of taking toiletries >250ml on board? Is that a no-no?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Wednesday 10th June 2015
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blade runner said:
Hope it's not been done before, but when out running on pavements, cycle paths etc. I keep coming across these small metal dome head bolts and flat washers sunk into the tarmac/concrete. Always a bolt and a washer together, usually slightly rusty but worn smooth. Thought maybe they were just a UK thing, but was recently running on holiday in Florida and saw a load of them there as well. Doesn't seem to be any logical spacing between them (sometimes they are miles apart, other times one a few metres from the other) so my first thought (mile/km markers) doesn't seem to stack up. Any ideas?
Survey marker bolts.

http://www.sccssurvey.co.uk/10zs-centre-marker-wit...

They usually come with a little dimple in the top to stick a survey pole, and that can then be used for repeated measurement.

Boozy

2,346 posts

220 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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When loading up lunch at a "salad bar" where you pay for your food by weight, I'm often plagued by which item offers the best value for money and which is the worst, does some ham/pasta which is heavy fill you up more than a load of green stuff that's lighter so you eat more but pay less?

What really throws things into chaos is that the hot food bar which contains curry, Chinese food is the same price! ($8.99 lb for each in case that helps with the diagnosis).

For clarities sake this is in the US but I assume things are still the same back home.

popeyewhite

20,021 posts

121 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Boozy said:
When loading up lunch at a "salad bar" where you pay for your food by weight, I'm often plagued by which item offers the best value for money and which is the worst, does some ham/pasta which is heavy fill you up more than a load of green stuff that's lighter so you eat more but pay less?

What really throws things into chaos is that the hot food bar which contains curry, Chinese food is the same price! ($8.99 lb for each in case that helps with the diagnosis).

For clarities sake this is in the US but I assume things are still the same back home.
If you want to feel full for longer the least cooked protein (meat normally) is where it's at.

illmonkey

18,231 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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TheEnd said:
blade runner said:
Hope it's not been done before, but when out running on pavements, cycle paths etc. I keep coming across these small metal dome head bolts and flat washers sunk into the tarmac/concrete. Always a bolt and a washer together, usually slightly rusty but worn smooth. Thought maybe they were just a UK thing, but was recently running on holiday in Florida and saw a load of them there as well. Doesn't seem to be any logical spacing between them (sometimes they are miles apart, other times one a few metres from the other) so my first thought (mile/km markers) doesn't seem to stack up. Any ideas?
Survey marker bolts.

http://www.sccssurvey.co.uk/10zs-centre-marker-wit...

They usually come with a little dimple in the top to stick a survey pole, and that can then be used for repeated measurement.
Why do you measure between 2 fixed point repeatedly?

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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illmonkey said:
Why do you measure between 2 fixed point repeatedly?
I am no structural engineer, but I am guessing a bad case of OCD. wink

singlecoil

33,777 posts

247 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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illmonkey said:
Why do you measure between 2 fixed point repeatedly?
My guess is to see if the elevations in respect to each other have changed. IOW, is one of the points subsiding?

scarble

5,277 posts

158 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Boozy said:
When loading up lunch at a "salad bar" where you pay for your food by weight, I'm often plagued by which item offers the best value for money and which is the worst, does some ham/pasta which is heavy fill you up more than a load of green stuff that's lighter so you eat more but pay less?
What really throws things into chaos is that the hot food bar which contains curry, Chinese food is the same price! ($8.99 lb for each in case that helps with the diagnosis).
For clarities sake this is in the US but I assume things are still the same back home.
Is this really how you approach your diet?
No wonder we have a looming public health disaster laugh

Fane

1,311 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Would a car doing 3,000 rpm in 3rd gear use more fuel than a car doing 3,000 rpm in 4th gear over a set distance of, say, a mile?

My Speed Awareness Course provider reckoned it would use less, I think it would be more, due to the gearing, but I'm no engineer or mathematician.

scarble

5,277 posts

158 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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The car in 4th, for the same engine speed has to produce more torque to do so because the torque at the wheel is reduced due to the longer gearing and to overcome the increased rolling and air resistance because it'll be going faster.
The car in 4th burns more fuel.

I can't help but wonder at your logic?

Edited by scarble on Thursday 11th June 13:17

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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scarble said:
The car in 4th, for the same engine speed has to produce more torque to do so because the torque at the wheel is reduced due to the longer gearing and to overcome the increased rolling and air resistance because it'll be going faster.
The car in 4th burns more fuel.

I can't help but wonder at your logic?

Edited by scarble on Thursday 11th June 13:17
Yebbut, nobbut, the car in third is going to do a lot more revolutions to cover the mile than the car in 4th.

thismonkeyhere

10,426 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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scarble said:
The car in 4th, for the same engine speed has to produce more torque to do so because the torque at the wheel is reduced due to the longer gearing and to overcome the increased rolling and air resistance because it'll be going faster.
The car in 4th burns more fuel.
Yes, but it will also finish the mile sooner, so only if 'Fuel increase due to more torque' > 'Fuel saving due reduced run time' will the car in 4th use more for the mile.

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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scarble said:
The car in 4th, for the same engine speed has to produce more torque to do so because the torque at the wheel is reduced due to the longer gearing and to overcome the increased rolling and air resistance because it'll be going faster.
The car in 4th burns more fuel.

I can't help but wonder at your logic?
By that logic, the most efficient way to drive a car would be to drive as slowly as possible (in this case 1st at 3,000rpm) and that isn't true.
You want lower rpm and higher gearing typically.
Therefore for a given rpm you want the highest gear.

I can't help but wonder at your logic (not a question). wink

Wiki said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy-efficient_driv...
Because cruising at an efficient speed uses much less than the maximum power of the engine, the optimum operating point for cruising at low power is typically at very low engine speed, around or below 1000 rpm. This explains the usefulness of very high "overdrive" gears for highway cruising.

thismonkeyhere

10,426 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Fane said:
My Speed Awareness Course provider reckoned it would use less
Yet another reason to be a bit rolleyes about Speed Awareness Courses.

Timmy40

12,915 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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Fane said:
Would a car doing 3,000 rpm in 3rd gear use more fuel than a car doing 3,000 rpm in 4th gear over a set distance of, say, a mile?

My Speed Awareness Course provider reckoned it would use less, I think it would be more, due to the gearing, but I'm no engineer or mathematician.
I always thought manufacturers recommended shifting to a higher gear as soon as possible in order to reduce fuel consumption, implying 4th gear 3k rpm will result in lower fuel consumption.

Fane

1,311 posts

201 months

Thursday 11th June 2015
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scarble said:
I can't help but wonder at your logic?
My non-scientific brain assumes that more revolutions of the wheels = more fuel used. On the other hand, I assume that there would be a trade off in terms of aerodynamic efficiency - the slower you go, the less you have to punch a hole in the air.

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