What colour is this dress?

What colour is this dress?

Poll: What colour is this dress?

Total Members Polled: 569

White and Gold: 69%
Black and Blue: 31%
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Martin4x4

6,506 posts

133 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27048-what-c...

Now we covered the important things, can we move on to some lighter topics

Is Nigel Farage 'Purple Tie' actual Red or Blue?

Edited by Martin4x4 on Sunday 1st March 08:25

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Aren't humans a funny lot.

I love dogs and horses, I bet they're not chatting about this shyte.

JonRB

74,598 posts

273 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Condi said:
I disagree. The actual dress is made from black and blue fabric. Its been black and blue in every fking picture I seen of it. The maker of the dress says it black and blue.

Ergo, logic would point to the fact its black and fking blue, unless anyone can point to any evidence I can verify with my own eyes to the contrary.
But that's not the point. Yes, the dress that the photograph is taken of is black and blue - it's been confirmed by the manufacturer and isn't open to debate. However, what people are debating is what colour they *see* when they view the photograph, accepting that the photograph is not a true representation of the actual dress but instead one step removed.

Once you accept that, then it becomes patently ridiculous to tell somebody they are "wrong" when they tell you that, despite knowing the dress itself is black and blue, what they themselves *see* in the photograph of it is white and gold.

Martin4x4 said:
Good article. Thanks for linking that - it sums things up very well. thumbup



Edited by JonRB on Sunday 1st March 08:38

okgo

38,076 posts

199 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Condi said:
I disagree. The actual dress is made from black and blue fabric. Its been black and blue in every fking picture I seen of it. The maker of the dress says it black and blue.

Ergo, logic would point to the fact its black and fking blue, unless anyone can point to any evidence I can verify with my own eyes to the contrary.
Well given I have near perfect eyesight and it's clearly not black and blue you'll just have to take my word for it. And get down the opticians too.

gl20

1,123 posts

150 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Aswell as the colour mysteriously changing, so does the debate. It flicks from aggressive to polite although this might be something to do with me reading this forum and then other ones on the same topic. Very weird though.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Can anyone explain why I've looked at this about 100 times from different sources and never seen any other colours than blue or black?

kambites

67,587 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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StottyEvo said:
Can anyone explain why I've looked at this about 100 times from different sources and never seen any other colours than blue or black?
I think the answer is no, because no-one actually knows the underlying cause of different white balance perceptions. smile

Condi

17,216 posts

172 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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okgo said:
Condi said:
I disagree. The actual dress is made from black and blue fabric. Its been black and blue in every fking picture I seen of it. The maker of the dress says it black and blue.

Ergo, logic would point to the fact its black and fking blue, unless anyone can point to any evidence I can verify with my own eyes to the contrary.
Well given I have near perfect eyesight and it's clearly not black and blue you'll just have to take my word for it. And get down the opticians too.
Evidently you dont have perfect eyesight, otherwise surely you would see the dress in the correct colour?!

aizvara

2,051 posts

168 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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okgo said:
Well given I have near perfect eyesight and it's clearly not black and blue you'll just have to take my word for it. And get down the opticians too.
You seem very certain given the dress is blue and black. I think this has more to do with perception and how the brain works than with visual acuity. It is an interesting example showing how people "see" things differently.

Try zooming in on predominantly single coloured parts of the dress and see if your perception of its colour changes.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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kambites said:
StottyEvo said:
Can anyone explain why I've looked at this about 100 times from different sources and never seen any other colours than blue or black?
I think the answer is no, because no-one actually knows the underlying cause of different white balance perceptions. smile
This is very annoying for me. I'm currently trying to trick myself.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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It's gone back to White & Gold this morning.

Well dodgy.

Neil H

15,323 posts

252 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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okgo said:
Condi said:
I disagree. The actual dress is made from black and blue fabric. Its been black and blue in every fking picture I seen of it. The maker of the dress says it black and blue.

Ergo, logic would point to the fact its black and fking blue, unless anyone can point to any evidence I can verify with my own eyes to the contrary.
Well given I have near perfect eyesight and it's clearly not black and blue you'll just have to take my word for it. And get down the opticians too.
laugh Ignorance must be bliss.

It's a black and blue dress you 'tard.

dfen5

2,398 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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It's a picture taken with a digital camera, compressed and generally fked about with, recreated on your screen with its own little nuances.

Look at it in real life or a Polaroid of it and then I think it might be worthy of an argument.

The internet; quibbling over utter nothingness since it was invented.

Edited by dfen5 on Sunday 1st March 11:23

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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dfen5 said:
The internet; quibbling over utter nothingness since it was invented.
Should have a capital I on Internet there.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Condi said:
Evidently you dont have perfect eyesight, otherwise surely you would see the dress in the correct colour?!
But we aren't looking at the dress. We are looking at a photograph of the dress. The photograph is demonstrably a brown/gold and light blue colour. This was proven earlier in the thread.

If you are seeing black/blue - then either your brain is compensating for the exposure/white balance in the photograph, you are perceiving the photograph of the dress based on what you know the colour to be - or your monitor needs calibrating.

What we can say however is that you aren't seeing or perceiving the 'correct' colour.

Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 1st March 12:38

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

164 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Moonhawk said:
If you are seeing black/blue - then either your brain is compensating for the exposure/white balance in the photograph,
I thought this may be why I only see blue. Subconsciously I figured my brain picked up on contrast with the light coloured background and the shading created by the light.

It may also have something to do with me being extraordinarily poor at art and the way my brain processes colours.

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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I sell womens clothing and must get at least a couple of emails a week about this exact same thing.

"Hi there, you've got a dress for sale that you say is blue, the title says it's blue, the description says it's blue & the image tag says it's blue. It looks purple to me so what colour is it?".

Me & the OH disagree on some colours a lot of the time & then when you start looking at a picture on different laptops / tablets / mobiles etc & they all look different it's a bloody nightmare.

If everything was black it would be much easierlaugh

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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northwest monkey said:
If everything was black it would be much easierlaugh
Or gold in this case. wink

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

220 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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northwest monkey said:
Me & the OH disagree on some colours a lot of the time & then when you start looking at a picture on different laptops / tablets / mobiles etc & they all look different it's a bloody nightmare.
Yep - one thing to bear in mind as well - especially with very deep colours is that even a perfectly calibrated monitor cannot render the range of colours or the range of brightness visible to the human eye.

The colour gamut and dynamic range of your average consumer monitor is significantly narrower than the human eye (right diagram). Even specialist wide gamut displays (left diagram) are quite far off the mark.



Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 1st March 13:46

dfen5

2,398 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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marshalla said:
dfen5 said:
The internet; quibbling over utter nothingness since it was invented.
Should have a capital I on Internet there.
punch

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