Will the online casino's ban me for this?

Will the online casino's ban me for this?

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R1 Indy

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4,381 posts

182 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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having been a bit bored over the last few weekend's, I've taken to trying to make a bit of cash with the online bookmakers/casino's etc.


I have completed most of the decent matched betting offers.


I have now taken to roulette, which Im actually doing quite well at. Ie keep spinning take note of sequence's etc, then when time is right, bung £4 on red, if it loses, double it to £8 on red etc until i win.

I am making a reasonable amount, although i accept there is a risk of getting 10 blacks in a row etc.


However i am yet to lose, so surely there must be alarm bell's ringing somewhere notifying my wins and no loses. I can't see how it could be illegal etc though.

But are they likely to ban me, and put my funds on hold etc?

Im pretty sure if i did this in a real casino, i would be shown the door pretty quick hehe



Marvib

528 posts

145 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Banned whilst playing roulette? A game with an inbuilt house %. It doesn't even matter if you win short term or (unlikely) long term, you're not the only one playing....house will always win.

Vaud

50,291 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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R1 Indy said:
I have now taken to roulette, which Im actually doing quite well at. Ie keep spinning take note of sequence's etc, then when time is right, bung £4 on red, if it loses, double it to £8 on red etc until i win.
What makes you think there is a "right time" - the wheel has no memory - even online?

castex

4,935 posts

272 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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No no, don't do it.

R1 Indy

Original Poster:

4,381 posts

182 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Vaud said:
What makes you think there is a "right time" - the wheel has no memory - even online?
I know it should be completely random, and its the exact same chance of winning each roll.

But sometimes it comes out nice and random Ie R,B,R,R,B,B,R,B,B,R Etc

Then others it goes like: RRRRRRRRRBRRRBBBR. I have counted up to 12 red's in a row.

So its obviously better when nice and random.


Rollin

6,077 posts

244 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Martingale system. You'll lose due to table limits. Yes you will.

kambites

67,462 posts

220 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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If it's completely random, you'll sometimes get 12 red in a row.

The casino couldn't care less, they will always make a profit on average. The only way you can "beat" a casino using that tactic is if you have more money than they do. smile

Vaud

50,291 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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You need to research random.

RRRRRRRRR is as random as RBRBRBRBRB, etc.

groundcontrol

1,539 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Won't get banned, I 'won' £120 out of doing this during university getting out at the right time.

Housemates were however less successful and I think sunk a collective £200 trying to replicate the success.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

178 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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It's random. You may come out with more cash than you started, you may not.

Sometimes you will get some reds in a row, sometimes blacks, sometimes a mixture. You've simply been lucky so far.

Vaud

50,291 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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RobinBanks said:
It's random. You may come out with more cash than you started, you may not.

Sometimes you will get some reds in a row, sometimes blacks, sometimes a mixture. You've simply been lucky so far.
Or the online games have a horrendously inbuilt bias, especially in trial accounts.

Possible, but I would go with "luck"

GregK2

1,651 posts

145 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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R1 Indy said:
I have now taken to roulette, which Im actually doing quite well at. Ie keep spinning take note of sequence's etc,then when time is right, bung £4 on red, if it loses, double it to £8 on red etc until i win.
Sounds like you've cracked the code, and together with your magic intuition have found a foolproof method! You should write a book hehe

JQ

5,692 posts

178 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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R1 Indy said:
Im pretty sure if i did this in a real casino, i would be shown the door pretty quick hehe
Nope, they'd happily let you keep playing, because eventually you'll reach the table limit, then the maths comes unstuck.

Out of interest, what's the table limit at the online casino you're playing on?

moleamol

15,887 posts

262 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Vaud said:
You need to research random.

RRRRRRRRR is as random as RBRBRBRBRB, etc.
You might want to research probability.

Mr E

21,583 posts

258 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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moleamol said:
You might want to research probability.
Probability only happens to other people?

Edit to answer the thread question. No, they won't ban you. They will welcome you with open arms because they will win.

Vaud

50,291 posts

154 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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moleamol said:
You might want to research probability.
The wheel has no memory.

Probability of the the next spin being red or black is independent of the previous spin.

TLandCruiser

2,788 posts

197 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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I just joined sky vegas for the free £10 bet with no deposit required, I earned £14 but then lost it all 😎

iwantagta

1,323 posts

144 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Sure someone will come along and disprove what i'm about to post and correct my maths but;
Did a little chart with values and outcomes.




If you went all the way to 9 rounds you would need a total bank of £2044.
You will fail 9 times in a row 0.25% of the time - i.e. 1 in 400
But to break even you need 1/512.
If the game worked out in accordance with probabilities then you would only lose £444.

Infinite bank roll > doubling up is OK. Without one you will come unstuck in an expensive way sooner or later. The earlier you quit the less you lose but the more likely a loser is to come along.


Pickled

2,051 posts

142 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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You're all forgetting the green zero (and double 00 depending on table)

Tbh you're better off playing blackjack

moleamol

15,887 posts

262 months

Sunday 1st March 2015
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Vaud said:
moleamol said:
You might want to research probability.
The wheel has no memory.

Probability of the the next spin being red or black is independent of the previous spin.
That only works if each spin is independent. Obviously every spin is .50 probability, however you stated that RRRRRRRRR is the same as a more random sequence, that is simply not true.