Nuclear power station location - an idea

[eldar]

NinjaPower said:

mcdjl said:

Most of the problem at Sellafield has almost nothing to do with making electricity.

+1

Very true. The big majority of the cost is dealing with plutonium manufacturing during the 40's and 50's. All done in a huge rush. lots of pressure, no thought of clear up, minimal record keeping.

You could go on a bus tour around the place a few years ago.

[anonymous-user]

eldar said:

NinjaPower said:

mcdjl said:

Most of the problem at Sellafield has almost nothing to do with making electricity.

+1

Very true. The big majority of the cost is dealing with plutonium manufacturing during the 40's and 50's. All done in a huge rush. lots of pressure, no thought of clear up, minimal record keeping.

You could go on a bus tour around the place a few years ago.

Yep.

I even had a 'P4' pass for Sellafield around the late 1990's when I was working for my dad. They practically gave them out like sweets. It was incredible.

For those that don't know, a P4 pass is a 'wave it at the gate and get right in' type ID card. Once you were in it was like driving/walking round a large town.

It was like a sci-fi movie with steam hissing out of silver pipes buried in the ground all over the site.

In the buildings and active areas you would hear 'the beeps' ... A Criticality Alarm which was a creepy constant 'honk honk honk' like a heartbeat that was constant at all times.

If the beeps stopped... You ran.

[IvanSTi]

killysprint said:

soad said:

princealbert23 said:

RDM said:

So it needs to be near water. Check.


It's obvious where to build it really...

Brighton?

Hull.

Sunderland please.

But can it be flattened first.

Edited by killysprint on Thursday 5th March 14:49

nice, nice my fellow Geordie friend.

[Sheepshanks]

princealbert23 said:

RDM said:

So it needs to be near water. Check.


It's obvious where to build it really...

Brighton?

There are already several nuclear power stations pretty close to Brighton...

[robinessex]

As far as I know, it's not possible to calculate the cost of nuclear power, as, so far, we've not solved, and thus not paid, for the problem of the bloody waste from these things. Of course, if the politicians were brave enough, we could put all the seriously yukky stuff in a rocket, and fire it at the sun. Problem solved.

[mebe]

Thanks

Einion Yrth said:

Kenty said:

a very active area of teutonic plate movement

What? This sort of thing?

[Poisson96]

Plans are to build on Sellafield. Most of the nuclear problems there are to do with events like Windscale.....

[Einion Yrth]

robinessex said:

As far as I know, it's not possible to calculate the cost of nuclear power, as, so far, we've not solved, and thus not paid, for the problem of the bloody waste from these things. Of course, if the politicians were brave enough, we could put all the seriously yukky stuff in a rocket, and fire it at the sun. Problem solved.

So with a current costing of, back of an envelope estimation, £20,000 per Kg to low earth orbit and probably that again to pay for the delta V for a sun grazing orbit. Politicians would need to be well beyond "brave" to even look at it. Plus, while we are certainly getting a lot better at it, sometimes rockets blow up.

[robinessex]

Einion Yrth said:

robinessex said:

As far as I know, it's not possible to calculate the cost of nuclear power, as, so far, we've not solved, and thus not paid, for the problem of the bloody waste from these things. Of course, if the politicians were brave enough, we could put all the seriously yukky stuff in a rocket, and fire it at the sun. Problem solved.

So with a current costing of, back of an envelope estimation, £20,000 per Kg to low earth orbit and probably that again to pay for the delta V for a sun grazing orbit. Politicians would need to be well beyond "brave" to even look at it. Plus, while we are certainly getting a lot better at it, sometimes rockets blow up.

Richard Branson will do it for you !!!! Cheap !!!!

[Einion Yrth]

robinessex said:

Einion Yrth said:

robinessex said:

As far as I know, it's not possible to calculate the cost of nuclear power, as, so far, we've not solved, and thus not paid, for the problem of the bloody waste from these things. Of course, if the politicians were brave enough, we could put all the seriously yukky stuff in a rocket, and fire it at the sun. Problem solved.

So with a current costing of, back of an envelope estimation, £20,000 per Kg to low earth orbit and probably that again to pay for the delta V for a sun grazing orbit. Politicians would need to be well beyond "brave" to even look at it. Plus, while we are certainly getting a lot better at it, sometimes rockets blow up.

Richard Branson will do it for you !!!! Cheap !!!!

Blow it up? Yes, he has form.

[MrCarPark]

Puggit said:

Flew over Chooz recently. A strange place to put a power plant.

[eldar]

Poisson96 said:

Plans are to build on Sellafield. Most of the nuclear problems there are to do with events like Windscale.....

Build what on Sellafield? Which events like Windscale?

[ninja-lewis]

hedgefinder said:

I would vote for somewhere on the banks of the thames...
I would lay odds on that one would never be built within a thousand miles of central london though......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JASON_reactor

They should keep up the fine tradition of building them in self-declared "Nuclear Free" areas.

[anonymous-user]

eldar said:

Poisson96 said:

Plans are to build on Sellafield. Most of the nuclear problems there are to do with events like Windscale.....

Build what on Sellafield? Which events like Windscale?

By 'build on' he means vastly expand.

At least it keeps it all in one place.

[Poisson96]

NinjaPower said:

eldar said:

Poisson96 said:

Plans are to build on Sellafield. Most of the nuclear problems there are to do with events like Windscale.....

Build what on Sellafield? Which events like Windscale?

By 'build on' he means vastly expand.

At least it keeps it all in one place.

^ As above, they want to expand an possibly put some new reactors there. Also, by Windscale I meant badly thought out plans like Building 30 and the Windscale Reactors.