Religious people, this world or the next?

[anonymous-user]

Polite request, just a poll for religious people. No offence intended towards those who are not.
When considering reward or punishment for your actions do you consider the return gained or the implications in this life or in heaven, mostly?
Please, anyone who votes, can you also post to say so, in order to gauge the post/vote tally.
Thank you.
VK

[don4l]

anonymous said:

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Oh dear.

I suspect that you don't want to hear from me.

However, you have asked a question that I have been thinking about recently.

I was brought up as a strict Roman Catholic, and my faith has simply evaporated over the past 10 years.

I've now come to the conclusion that religions exist to keep impoverished populaces from revolting against their masters.

In other words, you need to accept impoverishment in this world because you will be rewarded for all eternity.

The rulers of the past all knew this, and so they encouraged it.

[mybrainhurts]

I'm coming back as a rabbit. They don't half get some...

[richardxjr]

Why spend the life you know you have, preparing for an afterlife that you don't know you'll have?


That's what the 12 year old me asked my mum, after she 'discovered' the (Anglican) Church and announcing that this new family was more important to her. This whilst pregnant with my sister.

The question posed by the OP also demonstrates the over-ruling selfishness of the religious. You seem to be bothered more about how your actions affect you, than others.


Religion, all of it, is a mental illness.

[eharding]

mybrainhurts said:

I'm coming back as a rabbit.

So, still on your way *up* the reincarnation scale then?

[mybrainhurts]

richardxjr said:

Religion, all of it, is a mental illness.

That's worth a bump...

[rxtx]

eharding said:

So, still on your way *up* the reincarnation scale then?

He's soooo old he evolved from a small furry mammal up to the current human, and will go back around the loop again

[mrtwisty]

mybrainhurts said:

richardxjr said:

Religion, all of it, is a mental illness.

That's worth a bump...

...and another, just six minutes later.

[mybrainhurts]

eharding said:

mybrainhurts said:

I'm coming back as a rabbit.

So, still on your way *up* the reincarnation scale then?

Too right. Sheep no more, got shagged stupid by hairy Welsh men every Friday night.

[StescoG66]

Religion is nothing more than fairy tales for adults. Plus the root cause of the worlds problems.

Plus - have met more utter s who profess to be 'people of faith' than I care to remember......... Should judge people on their actions, not beliefs.

[anonymous-user]

StescoG66 said:

Religion is nothing more than fairy tales for adults. Plus the root cause of the worlds problems.

Plus - have met more utter s who profess to be 'people of faith' than I care to remember......... Should judge people on their actions, not beliefs.

You did read that this is a poll JUST for religious people?

[SpeckledJim]

anonymous said:

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I thought it was about doing the right thing, not getting rewards?

Illuminating question.

[Asterix]

mybrainhurts said:

I'm coming back as a rabbit. They don't half get some...

You know they eat their own pooh?

Have you been training?

[Asterix]

don4l said:

I've now come to the conclusion that religions exist to keep impoverished populaces from revolting against their masters.

Indeed - Having seen how organised Christianity had made lots of dosh, had overwhelming power and was superb at controlling the masses during the Byzantine Empire period, some bloke pulled himself out of a child and decided that it was a damn fine idea to take the concept with a few twists and kicked off Islam.

fking awesome concept being allowed to do what the fk you want and then absolving any come back in the 'current world' by saying Allah will judge me when I die.

Edited by Asterix on Thursday 5th March 07:32

[wolves_wanderer]

Why can't the PH militant atheist squad just leave a thread asking for religious peoples opinion alone? Is it because there aren't enough threads for you all to smugly congratulate each other on how much cleverer you are than the religious? Or perhaps you can't pass up a chance to try and convert a few god-botherers?

[anonymous-user]

SpeckledJim said:

I thought it was about doing the right thing, not getting rewards?

Illuminating question.

The reward, for those that think about this life, is in seeing good deeds make a positive difference. Of course not all good deeds are done solely for the good of others.
Example - the Sikh SWAT van gang feeding homeless people, their reward is seeing the homeless people benefit and gain some comfort. There might be the reward for the Sikhs of educating themselves about people of a different religion, culture or social standing for example.
Rewards are, perhaps, not the rewards you had in mind.
Thanks though to all for showing yourselves, as much as this was a poll for religious people it was also an experiment about decency.
LoL! VVVVVVVVVVVVVV
KABOOM!
Apologies though.
No intention of causing arguments or lowering the mood in the Lounge, this was originally in NP+E and a mod moved it.

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 5th March 09:33

[Adenauer]

anonymous said:

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[Moonhawk]

Should the poll not have options for "both" and "neither" as well?

Some people will be motivated by the reward both in this world and the next - whilst others may do good deeds and require nor expect a reward.

Edited by Moonhawk on Thursday 5th March 10:11

[Moonhawk]

el stovey said:

You did read that this is a poll JUST for religious people?

The poll might be (I haven't voted for exactly that reason) - but does the associated discussion have to be restricted to just religious people too?

The results of the poll might be an interesting discussion point for both religious and non-religious people.

[Simon Brooks]

£5 each way