poor bbc dears free lunch isnt enough
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£16 for a meal is fairly stingy. Yes you can go down the pub and have fish and chips and a pint.
Try doing that night after night after night. You get sick of it. After a while you want steak/chinese/indian/cheese sandwich with no f
king curly parsley on top etc.
I spent years working away from home all week, four nights away. Luckily the firm I worked for at the time was generous. You bought your own lunch, but breakfast came with the room they paid for and you could spend £40 a head on dinner. Back in the nineties that meant a decent meal with wine if you wanted it.
That would be more like £60 a head today.
At home I have a kitchen, can buy "raw" food and make a decent meal myself. If I am required to live in a hotel I can't. That's not my fault. So the firm I work for should be generous enough to pay for decent food.
But on the other side getting pissed up on Company Expenses is not acceptable. There's a balance to be had. £16 for dinner? That's not balance...
Try doing that night after night after night. You get sick of it. After a while you want steak/chinese/indian/cheese sandwich with no f
king curly parsley on top etc.I spent years working away from home all week, four nights away. Luckily the firm I worked for at the time was generous. You bought your own lunch, but breakfast came with the room they paid for and you could spend £40 a head on dinner. Back in the nineties that meant a decent meal with wine if you wanted it.
That would be more like £60 a head today.
At home I have a kitchen, can buy "raw" food and make a decent meal myself. If I am required to live in a hotel I can't. That's not my fault. So the firm I work for should be generous enough to pay for decent food.
But on the other side getting pissed up on Company Expenses is not acceptable. There's a balance to be had. £16 for dinner? That's not balance...
Don said:
I spent years working away from home all week, four nights away. Luckily the firm I worked for at the time was generous. You bought your own lunch, but breakfast came with the room they paid for and you could spend £40 a head on dinner. Back in the nineties that meant a decent meal with wine if you wanted it.
That would be more like £60 a head today.
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Lol, £60 for dinner per night? Are you deluded?That would be more like £60 a head today.
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vikingaero said:
We get £15 for breakfast, £20 lunch and £25 evening meal
fk me, you could easily get fat on that allowance, who spends £20 on lunch?Don said:
£16 for a meal is fairly stingy. Yes you can go down the pub and have fish and chips and a pint.
Try doing that night after night after night. You get sick of it. After a while you want steak/chinese/indian/cheese sandwich with no fking curly parsley on top etc.
I spent years working away from home all week, four nights away. Luckily the firm I worked for at the time was generous. You bought your own lunch, but breakfast came with the room they paid for and you could spend £40 a head on dinner. Back in the nineties that meant a decent meal with wine if you wanted it.
That would be more like £60 a head today.
At home I have a kitchen, can buy "raw" food and make a decent meal myself. If I am required to live in a hotel I can't. That's not my fault. So the firm I work for should be generous enough to pay for decent food.
But on the other side getting pissed up on Company Expenses is not acceptable. There's a balance to be had. £16 for dinner? That's not balance...
£16 is tight, but doable with some thought.Try doing that night after night after night. You get sick of it. After a while you want steak/chinese/indian/cheese sandwich with no f
king curly parsley on top etc.I spent years working away from home all week, four nights away. Luckily the firm I worked for at the time was generous. You bought your own lunch, but breakfast came with the room they paid for and you could spend £40 a head on dinner. Back in the nineties that meant a decent meal with wine if you wanted it.
That would be more like £60 a head today.
At home I have a kitchen, can buy "raw" food and make a decent meal myself. If I am required to live in a hotel I can't. That's not my fault. So the firm I work for should be generous enough to pay for decent food.
But on the other side getting pissed up on Company Expenses is not acceptable. There's a balance to be had. £16 for dinner? That's not balance...
£40 (£60 in todays money!!)is far too generous in my view, we offer £25 and I don't get any complaints from that.
You can't live on takeaways every night but also you shouldn't expect fine dining on the company.
I went out last night to a posh pub in Bucks, 4 of us, 4 bottles of (reasonable priced) wine and a 3 course meal was £55 a head inc tip. Couldn't do that every night
petemurphy said:
vikingaero said:
We get £15 for breakfast, £20 lunch and £25 evening meal
thats a fine breakfast!Typically outside of urban areas it's easier to eat breakfast and dinner at the hotel. In cities we often go out for dinner and are happy with a breakfast from La Maison Des Arches Dorées
I think £6 for lunch is about right, but £16 for dinner is typically nowhere near enough.
I work away a lot and in most pubs or restaurants £16 doesn't go far at all. I personally tend to spend the odd night in a really nice place, say £50 or os on just me, normally if I've had a st day, then balance it out with the next 2/3 dinners being under a tenner spent on something from tesco to take back to the hotel room. 
My company gives us a maximum of £100 per day. That's really excessive in my eyes and most days, assuming I buy all 3 meals then it tends to be about £40- £50
I work away a lot and in most pubs or restaurants £16 doesn't go far at all. I personally tend to spend the odd night in a really nice place, say £50 or os on just me, normally if I've had a s
t day, then balance it out with the next 2/3 dinners being under a tenner spent on something from tesco to take back to the hotel room. My company gives us a maximum of £100 per day. That's really excessive in my eyes and most days, assuming I buy all 3 meals then it tends to be about £40- £50
I work in telly and as I'm now in my 50s I try to avoid working away but if you are away for say a week you will blow the current allowances easy, it used to be much more.
Personally I go away to make money not spend it so I will just go to the nearest Sainsburys and buy some fruit, salad and something like a pot noodle or cuppa soup as it's the only hot food you can make in a hotel room.
Alternatively, work on some of the festivals or awards shows and there is usually great catering. 5 days on Glastonbury and you will return a few kilos heavier
but the days are 12 to 15 hours long and the weather is usually shyte.
Personally I go away to make money not spend it so I will just go to the nearest Sainsburys and buy some fruit, salad and something like a pot noodle or cuppa soup as it's the only hot food you can make in a hotel room.
Alternatively, work on some of the festivals or awards shows and there is usually great catering. 5 days on Glastonbury and you will return a few kilos heavier
but the days are 12 to 15 hours long and the weather is usually shyte.IanMorewood said:
What's the typical crew size four, eight, twenty, fourty? I'm sure for £20+ a day per head I could make sure everyone had a veritable feast three times a day with two options per meal even the odd bottle of beer.
That works well when there are a large number of people all on the same site at the same time.It works less when you have an unknown number of people spread between different locations eating a different times.
And you'll be surprised how fussy some people can be - give them a choice of sandwiches and cold meats and you might get physically assaulted
User33678888 said:
I don't get it. Would these people not have bought or made their own dinner anyway? So surely it's £16 over what you'd expect to spend. Topping it up out of the employees money if they want a steak/lobster seems fair. No?
Most of us don't eat out every single night... Sump said:
Don said:
I spent years working away from home all week, four nights away. Luckily the firm I worked for at the time was generous. You bought your own lunch, but breakfast came with the room they paid for and you could spend £40 a head on dinner. Back in the nineties that meant a decent meal with wine if you wanted it.
That would be more like £60 a head today.
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Lol, £60 for dinner per night? Are you deluded?That would be more like £60 a head today.
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Most employees, including myself, will put up with a degree of dislocation discomfort for a short while at no cost to our employers.(NB: I've been and might yet be an employer) But if you are being asked to be away from home, you should be able to expect that you will have the comforts of home...or reasonable compensation for the lack...
Don said:
Not even slightly. Perhaps £50 given the relative inflation rates. Remember what You are asking people to give up. You aren't at home. you have no access to your usual cooking environment, you can't buy booze from the supermarket, all these things. You could be the kind of people who make dinner, have a bottle of wine, relax in front of the TV. That could be £15 of ingredients, £1 or subscriptions, etc. None of which available at a decent price where you are. (These days more so but still difficult...) The end price for having the same environment as at home can be amazingly expensive,
Most employees, including myself, will put up with a degree of dislocation discomfort for a short while at no cost to our employers.(NB: I've been and might yet be an employer) But if you are being asked to be away from home, you should be able to expect that you will have the comforts of home...or reasonable compensation for the lack...
Exactly. Common sense, really.Most employees, including myself, will put up with a degree of dislocation discomfort for a short while at no cost to our employers.(NB: I've been and might yet be an employer) But if you are being asked to be away from home, you should be able to expect that you will have the comforts of home...or reasonable compensation for the lack...
iambeowulf said:
I wonder how quickly that will get tedious on PH.
You know, p there with MX5, remapped, company director etc.
I'm not bothered. I just think it's amusung that some "long termers" get so angry at other members using "in" jokes.
What's the in joke here? Is it a thread I've missed?You know, p there with MX5, remapped, company director etc.
I'm not bothered. I just think it's amusung that some "long termers" get so angry at other members using "in" jokes.
Loudy McFatass said:
iambeowulf said:
I wonder how quickly that will get tedious on PH.
You know, p there with MX5, remapped, company director etc.
I'm not bothered. I just think it's amusung that some "long termers" get so angry at other members using "in" jokes.
What's the in joke here? Is it a thread I've missed?You know, p there with MX5, remapped, company director etc.
I'm not bothered. I just think it's amusung that some "long termers" get so angry at other members using "in" jokes.
Really?
Where have you been hiding!
Don said:
Perhaps £50
Most employees, including myself, will put up with a degree of dislocation discomfort for a short while at no cost to our employers.(NB: I've been and might yet be an employer) But if you are being asked to be away from home, you should be able to expect that you will have the comforts of home...or reasonable compensation for the lack...
Will you be recruiting? Most employees, including myself, will put up with a degree of dislocation discomfort for a short while at no cost to our employers.(NB: I've been and might yet be an employer) But if you are being asked to be away from home, you should be able to expect that you will have the comforts of home...or reasonable compensation for the lack...
750turbo said:
anonymous said:
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You do not stay away much, do you?My previous employer dropped the evening meal allowance from £25 to £20, my current employer has a £30 limit (not the reason I changed jobs, btw).
On the other side of the coin, it's public funding, so we don't really want them spending £75 of our licence fee on a steak every night, do we?
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