People I have known, who have done time in prison.
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Over several decades I have know something like 8-10 individuals who have served time. By 'knowing' them I say that I would be on first name terms, when coming across them. I would add that my only brush with the law were points on the license for speeding.
What did strike was that virtually all these individuals were "full of themselves", not "stuck for words", "gift of the gab", "not backward at coming forward".
Anybody else noticed that, or some other characteristic other than being dishonest?
What did strike was that virtually all these individuals were "full of themselves", not "stuck for words", "gift of the gab", "not backward at coming forward".
Anybody else noticed that, or some other characteristic other than being dishonest?
Edited by HRH2009 on Saturday 25th April 20:52
There is something which is difficult to put your finger on, they tend to have a weird kind of charm. Guess you have to be able to get along with people when your locked in a cell most of the day. Bit slippery.
Just from my limited experience.
Knew one young kid (early twenties). Lost his license, had an emergency and was going down an unlit stretch of motorway and hit something. He thought is was an animal. Turned out it was a messed up gypsy who had wandered into the road.
Judge told him it wasn't his fault and he'd of walked free if he had his license. As it was he got 18 months in young offenders. Years later he's still messed up from the whole thing, drugs, self-esteem, keeping jobs down.
All very tragic.
Just from my limited experience.
Knew one young kid (early twenties). Lost his license, had an emergency and was going down an unlit stretch of motorway and hit something. He thought is was an animal. Turned out it was a messed up gypsy who had wandered into the road.
Judge told him it wasn't his fault and he'd of walked free if he had his license. As it was he got 18 months in young offenders. Years later he's still messed up from the whole thing, drugs, self-esteem, keeping jobs down.
All very tragic.
One of my best mates from child hood is back in prison. I say 'back in' as its his 3rd time.
When we left school he got in with the wrong crowd as like many others. He could make friends extremely easily, was a very funny guy and could talk his way out of anything.....well, apart from going to prison!
The first offence that sent him down was attempted armed robbery. Crimes such as that are not to be laughed at but as soon as i had heard about it i just knew that there was more to the story and i was right. He went into an off license with a kitchen knife and before he could even say 'hand over the money!' the guy behind the counter had clouted him with a cricket bat. Something like that was just so typical of him
When we left school he got in with the wrong crowd as like many others. He could make friends extremely easily, was a very funny guy and could talk his way out of anything.....well, apart from going to prison!
The first offence that sent him down was attempted armed robbery. Crimes such as that are not to be laughed at but as soon as i had heard about it i just knew that there was more to the story and i was right. He went into an off license with a kitchen knife and before he could even say 'hand over the money!' the guy behind the counter had clouted him with a cricket bat. Something like that was just so typical of him
I've known two.
One I think was completely innocent (he was accused of rape and admitted sex but not rape). The other was crooked and guilty as sin. He was done for drug distribution and tax evasion.
The former I knew well from childhood, the latter was someone who used to drink at my local (acquaintance and nothing more).
One I think was completely innocent (he was accused of rape and admitted sex but not rape). The other was crooked and guilty as sin. He was done for drug distribution and tax evasion.
The former I knew well from childhood, the latter was someone who used to drink at my local (acquaintance and nothing more).
I imagine it all depends where you grow up.
The ones I've known have been charmless pricks.
Scumbags from school. Stealing and being bullies from the start. Didn't grow out of it. Still pricks now.
1 for rape, one for illegal dumping dangerous waste. Two for burglary. I have no doubt their records are larger than I know and will be in and out all their lives.
Known a few dodgy people from acquaintances two went down for armed robbery of a post office.
People I've met through work but didn't know Approx 5 security guards went down in one go.
Also One dick for doing over a corner shop ( his local who was identified despite the mask and still bashed the owner over the head) not charming or other just normal but impulsive and a bit thick.
Oh and one woman for fraud she was cray cray
The ones I've known have been charmless pricks.
Scumbags from school. Stealing and being bullies from the start. Didn't grow out of it. Still pricks now.
1 for rape, one for illegal dumping dangerous waste. Two for burglary. I have no doubt their records are larger than I know and will be in and out all their lives.
Known a few dodgy people from acquaintances two went down for armed robbery of a post office.
People I've met through work but didn't know Approx 5 security guards went down in one go.
Also One dick for doing over a corner shop ( his local who was identified despite the mask and still bashed the owner over the head) not charming or other just normal but impulsive and a bit thick.
Oh and one woman for fraud she was cray cray
Edited by Pesty on Saturday 25th April 23:21
MLH said:
When we left school he got in with the wrong crowd
I've never understood this phrase. I know loads of people who claim to have got in with the wrong crowd, which is where it all went wrong for them, but never met anyone who admits to being part of the wrong crowd that attracts all these otherwise decent blokes!Parents forever say "it wasn't really little Johnny's fault, he got in with the wrong crowd." So where are the parents of the kids leading the wrong crowd and sucking little Johnny in?
It seems to me that "getting in with the wrong crowd" is just a euphemism for "being a complete
."One of my oldest friends from school, we joined Primary school on the same day, was recently sent down for 8 years for a mortgage swindle. I wasn't at all surprised as he always had that tendency to be a wrong 'un, despite his father being a Professor and his mum was a teacher.
He was a clever enough guy from a decent background, but always seemed to gravitate towards the darker side of life.
I also used to work with a guy who (now I may be wrong as it was a few years ago), but was jailed for 12 months for causing a death by dangerous driving, as he was covering hundreds of miles a day on a tight schedule and in rushing to the next job had a crash and killed somebody.
The company kept the job open for him when he'd served his time, and completely changed working procedures.
He was a clever enough guy from a decent background, but always seemed to gravitate towards the darker side of life.
I also used to work with a guy who (now I may be wrong as it was a few years ago), but was jailed for 12 months for causing a death by dangerous driving, as he was covering hundreds of miles a day on a tight schedule and in rushing to the next job had a crash and killed somebody.
The company kept the job open for him when he'd served his time, and completely changed working procedures.
I've known a few. I read a few minths ago that a boss from 20 years ago went down for killing his Mrs. He was art the time a bit aggressive, but a nice enough bloke. Clearly there was more going on there than met the eye. Chilling to think I spent hours in this blokes company.
I have an acquaintence though a friend who is a defence barrister. Former gangland style naughty boy. He killed someine. One punch, guy hit his head type thing. Despite being at one time quite a force to be reckoned with, the bloke I know is full of remorse for what he did, despite serving a hefty jail term for it. He's genuinely scared of a day of reckoning when he dies. He's quite a nice bloke to share a beer with and says jail did him good making him change his life for the better. I don't know him well but I do know he's brought his children up not to be like him with a strong work hard at school ethic. His excuse for want of a better term was that he grew up in a tough town, bottom of the pile, but his kids have no such excuse. Maybe prison worked for him?
Then there was the family friends boyfriend who went down for armed robbery. Out of the blue, a successful small business owner with no money worries. It shocked everyone. He screwed a post office and was nicked before he got home from the job. (He used a borrowed getaway car then swapped to a van with his company name on it) He was a mild mannered, likable bloke and it still baffles me why he did what he did.
I have an acquaintence though a friend who is a defence barrister. Former gangland style naughty boy. He killed someine. One punch, guy hit his head type thing. Despite being at one time quite a force to be reckoned with, the bloke I know is full of remorse for what he did, despite serving a hefty jail term for it. He's genuinely scared of a day of reckoning when he dies. He's quite a nice bloke to share a beer with and says jail did him good making him change his life for the better. I don't know him well but I do know he's brought his children up not to be like him with a strong work hard at school ethic. His excuse for want of a better term was that he grew up in a tough town, bottom of the pile, but his kids have no such excuse. Maybe prison worked for him?
Then there was the family friends boyfriend who went down for armed robbery. Out of the blue, a successful small business owner with no money worries. It shocked everyone. He screwed a post office and was nicked before he got home from the job. (He used a borrowed getaway car then swapped to a van with his company name on it) He was a mild mannered, likable bloke and it still baffles me why he did what he did.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-321... My classmate from high school for 5 years. Gets sentenced tomorrow, hope he is never released.
iambeowulf said:
Oh gosh. Let's talk about "them" as they can't hurt us in here.
Beastly people. Certainly not part of our elitist lifestyle Tarquiniius.
This thread is cringe level 11.
hi mate. I didn't know they let you have the Internet in jail. I buried the stuff like you said. Drain pipe bin liners at that spot in the New Forrest just like you said.!Your stash is safe for when you come out. $tay $trong!Beastly people. Certainly not part of our elitist lifestyle Tarquiniius.
This thread is cringe level 11.
A lad at work. Good manufacturing engineer and player on the second team for a major rugby team. He was on the receiving end of a (deliberate) bad tackle and snaked the guy in question breaking his jaw. Every the red said he riser we it.
The pratt in question took out a private prosecution and had him locked up for 6 months for GBH with intent.
The pratt in question took out a private prosecution and had him locked up for 6 months for GBH with intent.
My late father got sent down for a sexual offence that never happened nearly 15 years ago. The lady in question quickly admitted that said offence was a lie but with him being very well known in the 3 day eventing world and having a large riding establishment it certainly did his business no favours when it hit the national papers. He was never the same up until the day he died.
wildcat45 said:
iambeowulf said:
Oh gosh. Let's talk about "them" as they can't hurt us in here.
Beastly people. Certainly not part of our elitist lifestyle Tarquiniius.
This thread is cringe level 11.
hi mate. I didn't know they let you have the Internet in jail. I buried the stuff like you said. Drain pipe bin liners at that spot in the New Forrest just like you said.!Your stash is safe for when you come out. $tay $trong!Beastly people. Certainly not part of our elitist lifestyle Tarquiniius.
This thread is cringe level 11.
You buried the bodies right not the stash?
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