People I have known, who have done time in prison.

[iambeowulf]

wildcat45 said:

iambeowulf said:

Sweet.

You buried the bodies right not the stash?

Oh did I get that bit wrong? I took the bodies to the pug farm like you asked. The inside of the car got a bit messed up. BTW Big Alf Jeff the Nutter and Mad Steve all say hi.

Pig farm ffs!

Pugs don't eat humans!

[simoid]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I've never understood this phrase. I know loads of people who claim to have got in with the wrong crowd, which is where it all went wrong for them, but never met anyone who admits to being part of the wrong crowd that attracts all these otherwise decent blokes!

Parents forever say "it wasn't really little Johnny's fault, he got in with the wrong crowd." So where are the parents of the kids leading the wrong crowd and sucking little Johnny in?

It seems to me that "getting in with the wrong crowd" is just a euphemism for "being a complete ."

I can see what they mean, although obviously there can always be an element of rose tinted specs from the parents.

Let's grade behaviour from A (model pupil, good kid) to E (utter tt and destined for life of crime).

Kid A will never mix with kids D or E.
Kid B would mix with C kids and A kids, probably not Ds.

However - B kid might hang about with a C, who hangs about with a D, who knows some proper scumbag Es. Before you know it, he might've "fallen in with the wrong crowd".

[Countdown]

wildcat45 said:

Oh did I get that bit wrong? I took the bodies to the pug farm like you asked. The inside of the car got a bit messed up. BTW Big Alf Jeff the Nutter and Mad Steve all say hi.

Viz top tip: if you know people called "Big Alf, Jeff the Nutter, and Mad Steve" there's a high probability that you're "in with the wrong crowd"

[Pesty]

If you are having around with a group that do dodgy stuff you have found your level. Nobody puts a gun to their head and says hang out with those kids that mug people for their phones.

[simoid]

Pesty said:

If you are having around with a group that do dodgy stuff you have found your level. Nobody puts a gun to their head and says hang out with those kids that mug people for their phones.

Yes, but equally, that kid could've hung about with boys in the cricket team and would never get into trouble.

He could've hung about with The Right Crowd and been grand, but instead he ended up in The Wrong Crowd - due to quirks of fate or his own design I grant you.

[S10GTA]

iambeowulf said:

wildcat45 said:

iambeowulf said:

Sweet.

You buried the bodies right not the stash?

Oh did I get that bit wrong? I took the bodies to the pug farm like you asked. The inside of the car got a bit messed up. BTW Big Alf Jeff the Nutter and Mad Steve all say hi.

Pig farm ffs!

Pugs don't eat humans!

I dunno have you not seen the video of The Tottenham player and his Mrs (allegedly)

[wildcat45]

There were a lot of Pugs. Did the same job as the pigs but way more cute

[iambeowulf]

It's not always peer pressure or the "wrong crowd" that cause oiks to go into criminality. I've a mate who did stuff on his own and didn't know anyone else in his circle of mates who was a dodgy geezer.

I can't believe that 10penceshort of whatever the blokes name is hasn't been mentioned yet. Must be a record.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

simoid said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

I've never understood this phrase. I know loads of people who claim to have got in with the wrong crowd, which is where it all went wrong for them, but never met anyone who admits to being part of the wrong crowd that attracts all these otherwise decent blokes!

Parents forever say "it wasn't really little Johnny's fault, he got in with the wrong crowd." So where are the parents of the kids leading the wrong crowd and sucking little Johnny in?

It seems to me that "getting in with the wrong crowd" is just a euphemism for "being a complete ."

I can see what they mean, although obviously there can always be an element of rose tinted specs from the parents.

Let's grade behaviour from A (model pupil, good kid) to E (utter tt and destined for life of crime).

Kid A will never mix with kids D or E.
Kid B would mix with C kids and A kids, probably not Ds.

However - B kid might hang about with a C, who hangs about with a D, who knows some proper scumbag Es. Before you know it, he might've "fallen in with the wrong crowd".

But where are the parents of the Ds & Es. I've never heard a parent say "my kid is a recruiter
for the wrong crowd."

[tleefox]

Starfighter said:

Every the red said he riser we it.

Ok, I give in - what does this say?

[Morningside]

Quite a list.

My old school friend was sent down about 20 years back for abusing his step children. He was always a violent thug and never quite the ticket but I never expected that. Never spoke since and NEVER will.

Shockingly another friend from my teenage years was also sent down (unconnected) for doing the same thing.

Another one I feel quite guilty about. My friends step-father was caught abusing his children. Why I feel guilty is that one of them said "Oh no, we don't like ***** babysitting us as he keeps showing us his willy". But we just thought the girl was being pissy as she was always 'difficult' ...now we know why. At least the bd is now dead.

Friend was caught running out of the local sweet shop with till in hand. Always a light fingered git but can't help liking him. He is now a father and apart from motoring offences has totally calmed down.

Another bloke was caught after stealing a car from the local dealership (this was 20+ years ago) crashing it on a bridge and then stupidly (in his case) was caught by the police as he hitch-hiked home covered in blood.

Two or three jailed for non payment.

And lastly a friend a while back was jailed for faking parts of motor bits. I remember years ago he built a fake Mini Cooper using crashed shell and rung papers. Apart from this he was a really nice chap who who bend over backwards to help.

[gtidriver]

Im off to visit an old friend tomorrow at prison. He was one of the most intelligent person that i knew,back in the day. Many years ago his wife left him and he just fell off the happy family roundabout, he lost his family his job his house and his license due to dd in a mater of weeks. I advised him to leave Folkestone and move far away and start again, a life reset maybe but no he stayed and started nicking from cars. He did time before for assaulting his ex wife which she admitted was a lie, now he is in clink for attempted robbery and assault, he may be looking at a 5yr stretch. One thing that was quite sad was that in his letter to me he stated that now he has something to eat everyday and a bed to sleep on.

[HairyMaclary]

HRH2009 said:

Over several decades I have know something like 8-10 individuals who have served time. By 'knowing' them I say that I would be on first name terms, when coming across them. I would add that my only brush with the law were points on the license for speeding.

What did strike was that virtually all these individuals were "full of themselves", not "stuck for words", "gift of the gab", "not backward at coming forward".

Anybody else noticed that, or some other characteristic other than being dishonest?

Edited by HRH2009 on Saturday 25th April 20:52

Not in my experience. I've spent a lot of time in jails across the country recently. I was in one last Thursday.

I wouldn't say there was a particular type. What the last couple of months has taught me is that it only takes one iffy decision or a stty set of circumstances for any of us to be behind bars.

There by the grace of god and all that....

Also, prison isn't a holiday camp. Far from it! I've seen playstation 2s but no sky telly. The gyms are pretty st too.

[simoid]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

But where are the parents of the Ds & Es. I've never heard a parent say "my kid is a recruiter
for the wrong crowd."

Indeed - the parents will likely have rose tinted specs. Or maybe they just leave the kids to it and DGAF

That doesn't mean that kids can't "fall into the wrong crowd", though. As someone above said - one decision here or there could be the difference. Hang out more with a C kid because the A kid is on holiday or something.

I was an A, but lots of my friends were B/C growing up and I know a fair few D/Es simply because of where I live. Looking back, even when I was in primary school, I could feel when there were guys that weren't on the same wavelength as me in terms of behaviour/boundaries/consequences.

I suppose you could look at it that "any kid with the propensity to fall in with the wrong crowd is a scrote".

[eldar]

simoid said:

Indeed - the parents will likely have rose tinted specs. Or maybe they just leave the kids to it and DGAF

That doesn't mean that kids can't "fall into the wrong crowd", though. As someone above said - one decision here or there could be the difference. Hang out more with a C kid because the A kid is on holiday or something.

I was an A, but lots of my friends were B/C growing up and I know a fair few D/Es simply because of where I live. Looking back, even when I was in primary school, I could feel when there were guys that weren't on the same wavelength as me in terms of behaviour/boundaries/consequences.

I suppose you could look at it that "any kid with the propensity to fall in with the wrong crowd is a scrote".

I know someone who stayed at this place for a few months. His only complaint was it was too easy to get drugs.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/3300155/Wel...

[selym]

HairyMaclary said:

Not in my experience. I've spent a lot of time in jails across the country recently. I was in one last Thursday.

I wouldn't say there was a particular type. What the last couple of months has taught me is that it only takes one iffy decision or a stty set of circumstances for any of us to be behind bars.

There by the grace of god and all that....

Also, prison isn't a holiday camp. Far from it! I've seen playstation 2s but no sky telly. The gyms are pretty st too.

Good post. They aren't all lost causes.

[Marvib]

tleefox said:

Starfighter said:

Every the red said he riser we it.

Ok, I give in - what does this say?

Even the ref said he deserved it?

My guess

[ferrariF50lover]

Starfighter said:

The pratt in question took out a private prosecution and had him locked up for 6 months for GBH with intent.

I'd be staggered if this were accurate. s. 20 yes, s. 18 no.

[Johnnytheboy]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

MLH said:

When we left school he got in with the wrong crowd

I've never understood this phrase. I know loads of people who claim to have got in with the wrong crowd, which is where it all went wrong for them, but never met anyone who admits to being part of the wrong crowd that attracts all these otherwise decent blokes!

Parents forever say "it wasn't really little Johnny's fault, he got in with the wrong crowd." So where are the parents of the kids leading the wrong crowd and sucking little Johnny in?

It seems to me that "getting in with the wrong crowd" is just a euphemism for "being a complete ."

I don't often agree with you but you are spot on here.

This applies word for word to someone from my home village, who was an utter arse, died young of something particularly squalid like glue sniffing, then was described as having got in with the wrong crowd. He was the hub of the wrong crowd.

[MG CHRIS]

I don't think I know anyone that has gone to prison well not that I know of anyway. I think I chose my friends and people I hang out with quite good saying that was never the one to be pushed to do something I didn't want to so never got into this bad crowd that some people talk about.