Life after Death? The mechanics of it?

[daemon]

And what happened to all those people who were around before christianity?

You know, minding their own business being pagans or something?

Didnt know any better. Did they go to hell? Hardly seems fair?

[kiseca]

daemon said:

And what happened to all those people who were around before christianity?

You know, minding their own business being pagans or something?

Didnt know any better. Did they go to hell? Hardly seems fair?

Now you're talking old testament. Adam was the first. He knew who god was. There were no people before him.

The bible predates christianity BTW. Either way, I think the druids are fked

[daemon]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

Mafffew said:

austinsmirk said:

wouldn'f fancy backing Islam, and arriving to be faced with 40 virgins. You want to be faced with a nicely skilled women in her 20's or 30's.

Exactly! Why anyone would actually want 40 virgins is a bit beyond me. It's difficult enough dealing with one bird who hasn't a fecking clue, let alone going through 40.

Do the 40 Virgins age ? and if you have an eternity with them, how long until you move on to the 'Next one' ? Is it 8,000Yrs per Virgin ? and then after 32,000 years all are 'damaged goods' so to speak ?
Or do they remain virgins ? How'd that work?

Is Mary one of them ? Or is that akin to crossing the streams ?

And whats in it for the 40 virgins? I'll be honest - i'm past my peak.

Has someone set an expectation there with them that realistically cant be met?

[daemon]

kiseca said:

Either way, I think the druids are fked

The gold one always annoyed me anyway. Bit of a complainer.

[kowalski655]

daemon said:

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Is it not like a big eternal game of hide and seek?

Surely it would be easier all round if he just manifested himself somewhere - and not to some obscure tribe pottering around the desert - and then we could all just get on with it and do the whole worship thing if thats your bag?

Instead of being "punished" because gods been too aloof?

Maybe he is just shy

Or he has taken one look at the complete clusterfk we have made of everything,and no longer wants to be associated with us,and is now working on life 2.0 somewhere on the other side of the universe

[jdw100]

_Deano said:

Probably within a Google Datacentre

Oh we are in safe hands then....;)

[J4CKO]

kowalski655 said:

daemon said:

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Is it not like a big eternal game of hide and seek?

Surely it would be easier all round if he just manifested himself somewhere - and not to some obscure tribe pottering around the desert - and then we could all just get on with it and do the whole worship thing if thats your bag?

Instead of being "punished" because gods been too aloof?

Maybe he is just shy

Or he has taken one look at the complete clusterfk we have made of everything,and no longer wants to be associated with us,and is now working on life 2.0 somewhere on the other side of the universe

As humans we always assume we have made a mess of everything, is it really the case ?

[RobM77]

J4CKO said:

As humans we always assume we have made a mess of everything, is it really the case ?

I guess it depends how you look at it. We've caused more extinctions than any other creature to walk the earth, but less than pure chance did with the dinosaurs if you look at it that way. We've almost certainly permanently altered the planet's climate with our technology, but on the plus side we've doubled our life expectancy and eradicated lots of terrible diseases. It depends on perspective I guess. Any other species would do the same in our position I'm sure - it's only intelligence holding them back really.

[austinsmirk]

I'm sure I've seen/read/heard of a joke recently from a comic who pointed out Re: the 40 virgins:

it could be convent full of elderly catholic nuns.


knowing me, it was probably Dave Allen who said it !!

goodnight and may your sky pilot go with you.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

RobM77 said:

I guess it depends how you look at it. We've caused more extinctions than any other creature to walk the earth, but less than pure chance did with the dinosaurs if you look at it that way. We've almost certainly permanently altered the planet's climate with our technology, but on the plus side we've doubled our life expectancy and eradicated lots of terrible diseases. It depends on perspective I guess. Any other species would do the same in our position I'm sure - it's only intelligence holding them back really.

We've also kept some species going when they would have died out even if there were no humans. Like the giant panda. What a crap animal. It only eats one thing and it doesn't like sex. Talk about an evolutionary dead end. One year of bamboo blight and it's a goner. It deserves to go extinct, but we've kept it going because it's cute.

[RobM77]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

RobM77 said:

I guess it depends how you look at it. We've caused more extinctions than any other creature to walk the earth, but less than pure chance did with the dinosaurs if you look at it that way. We've almost certainly permanently altered the planet's climate with our technology, but on the plus side we've doubled our life expectancy and eradicated lots of terrible diseases. It depends on perspective I guess. Any other species would do the same in our position I'm sure - it's only intelligence holding them back really.

We've also kept some species going when they would have died out even if there were no humans. Like the giant panda. What a crap animal. It only eats one thing and it doesn't like sex. Talk about an evolutionary dead end. One year of bamboo blight and it's a goner. It deserves to go extinct, but we've kept it going because it's cute.

And in pouring millions of pounds into keeping the Giant Panda alive we've probably allowed lots of other deserving, but less cute, animals to go extinct that would have otherwise been saved by the same charities and organisations. It's a controversial topic!

[HTP99]

daemon said:

And whats with the whole "faith" thing?

God loves us that much that he wont prove he exists, so you have to be really good and behave and he has to watch over us all and confirm we've been good and then when we die we might get in to heaven? Otherwise we burn in hell?

Is it not like a big eternal game of hide and seek?

Surely it would be easier all round if he just manifested himself somewhere - and not to some obscure tribe pottering around the desert - and then we could all just get on with it and do the whole worship thing if thats your bag?

Instead of being "punished" because gods been too aloof?

Yes but doesn't the Christian God always forgive; so it doesn't really matter what you get up to in your life as you will be forgiven and will go to Heaven anyway, so long as Christianity is "the" religion!

I do think that with all these relgions in the world then surely they are not all the correct ones, surely there are a majority that are follwing "the wrong one" and then they will be damned; unless Christianity is the correct one all along and those that didn't follow it will be forgiven anyway.

[Prof Prolapse]

Yeah but what is conservation?

Ultimately it's a popularity contest. You don't see anybody queuing up to save massive poisonous spiders, or parasitic wasps.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

RobM77 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

RobM77 said:

I guess it depends how you look at it. We've caused more extinctions than any other creature to walk the earth, but less than pure chance did with the dinosaurs if you look at it that way. We've almost certainly permanently altered the planet's climate with our technology, but on the plus side we've doubled our life expectancy and eradicated lots of terrible diseases. It depends on perspective I guess. Any other species would do the same in our position I'm sure - it's only intelligence holding them back really.

We've also kept some species going when they would have died out even if there were no humans. Like the giant panda. What a crap animal. It only eats one thing and it doesn't like sex. Talk about an evolutionary dead end. One year of bamboo blight and it's a goner. It deserves to go extinct, but we've kept it going because it's cute.

And in pouring millions of pounds into keeping the Giant Panda alive we've probably allowed lots of other deserving, but less cute, animals to go extinct that would have otherwise been saved by the same charities and organisations. It's a controversial topic!

Exactly. The Amazonian parasitic wasp, now there's a critter worth saving. Wouldn't sell many t shirts though!

[HOGEPH]

daemon said:

kiseca said:

Either way, I think the druids are fked

The gold one always annoyed me anyway. Bit of a complainer.

Those aren't the druids you're looking for....

[Timmy40]

HTP99 said:

Yes but doesn't the Christian God always forgive; so it doesn't really matter what you get up to in your life as you will be forgiven and will go to Heaven anyway, so long as Christianity is "the" religion!

Not so, that's why there's a Hell. With purgatory in the middle for the yet to be classified.

[HTP99]

Timmy40 said:

HTP99 said:

Yes but doesn't the Christian God always forgive; so it doesn't really matter what you get up to in your life as you will be forgiven and will go to Heaven anyway, so long as Christianity is "the" religion!

Not so, that's why there's a Hell. With purgatory in the middle for the yet to be classified.

I was brought up a Christian within the CofE; have been Baptised and Confirmed, shows how much I remember.

However I now remember my father in law suggesting to us that our daughters would be stuck in purgatory because we wouldn't have them baptised. Fortunately he is no longer in our lives after buggering off and getting involved with some extreme Methodists.

[croyde]

Great thread

[Timmy40]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

RobM77 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

RobM77 said:

I guess it depends how you look at it. We've caused more extinctions than any other creature to walk the earth, but less than pure chance did with the dinosaurs if you look at it that way. We've almost certainly permanently altered the planet's climate with our technology, but on the plus side we've doubled our life expectancy and eradicated lots of terrible diseases. It depends on perspective I guess. Any other species would do the same in our position I'm sure - it's only intelligence holding them back really.

We've also kept some species going when they would have died out even if there were no humans. Like the giant panda. What a crap animal. It only eats one thing and it doesn't like sex. Talk about an evolutionary dead end. One year of bamboo blight and it's a goner. It deserves to go extinct, but we've kept it going because it's cute.

And in pouring millions of pounds into keeping the Giant Panda alive we've probably allowed lots of other deserving, but less cute, animals to go extinct that would have otherwise been saved by the same charities and organisations. It's a controversial topic!

Exactly. The Amazonian parasitic wasp, now there's a critter worth saving. Wouldn't sell many t shirts though!

And that nasty little parasitic fish that swims up your johnson if you go swimming in Africa. I can't see many people wanting to save that.

[Butter Face]

I have sometimes imagined just how much more amazing and fantastic this world would be if religion itself had never been invented. If we'd never put (most of) the course of human history in the hands of Sky Fairies, how much better (or possibly worse) would this planet be?