I was threatened and racially abused. Nice (!)

I was threatened and racially abused. Nice (!)

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james_tigerwoods

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16,289 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
Clearly he has issues of some sort as his actions are not "normal".
Agreed. they're not normal. But it's always possible, he's a jumped up, self important, drunk, high, dipst that likes to throw his weight about because "he owns the place"* - It's not on and if he does, the justice/social system can deal with him appropriately

* Especially given that he said "if I ever see you round here again, I'll fking kill you"

That aside.

The car has been traced and I got the details spot on (yay me) and hopefully the formal statement will result in something - just a shame it wasn't done on Monday in case he was under the influence.

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

174 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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OP well done for continuing through with the Police hopefully this will help the driver see the error of their ways.

If not I fully expect that one day they'll do the same to someone a bit less civil and they'll end up in an Ambiwlans wink

james_tigerwoods

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16,289 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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My other father in law (girlfriend's stepdad) is a cyclist and is ex army having worked his way up from private to Captain and has controlled rage. I've seen him angry, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that... If we'd been with him, I think it may have been a little different as the apple of his eye is his granddaughter - my daughter.

That said, I hope this will end in a result, but will probably just be a caution....

Foppo

2,344 posts

125 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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These thugs know who to pick on.He will come unstuck one day when he meets the wrong person.

Sorry about your daughter hearing this.Tell her the world is full of morons and ignorant people.

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Sounds like just your average gobby knob-end who thinks the world owes him.

Sadly, they are far too common.

I know of someone who used to be like that. He ended up doing it to the wrong person and is now severely brain damaged as a result.

Probably not a very tasteful thing to write, but that's what happened.

J4CKO

41,681 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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pablo said:
NoNeed said:
J4CKO said:
Find car, destroy car !
This is PH and the door is that way >>>>>>>>>>>GET OUT
Take your own advice, I suspect you are in a majority of one on this. The OP was subject to some horrific and unjustified abuse in front of his family and yet you show more concern towards the moron's car when someone suggests destroying it? You need to have a good think about your values.
I think we are both kind of joking Pablo, but I appreciate the sentiment.

Sump

5,484 posts

168 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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james_tigerwoods said:
There were 2 cars parked on either side of the road, slightly on the curb - My mother in law and girlfriend just passed the parked cars and the car I'd seen before sped through, at speed, noisily and very close to them. At this, I raised my arm as if to say WTF - the gesture was in no way threatening.
Why did you raise your arm? You got yourself involved..and him being close to you is an opinion. There is no weight here as there isn't a video so it's all very one sided.

james_tigerwoods

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16,289 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Sump said:
james_tigerwoods said:
There were 2 cars parked on either side of the road, slightly on the curb - My mother in law and girlfriend just passed the parked cars and the car I'd seen before sped through, at speed, noisily and very close to them. At this, I raised my arm as if to say WTF - the gesture was in no way threatening.
Why did you raise your arm? You got yourself involved..
The driver, who was clearly spoiling for a fight nearly ran my mother in law, girlfriend and three year old off the road by overtaking them while they were between two parked cars. We, as a group had passed through the spot already - My girlfriend was already committed to the manoeuvre.

This was the location - car on the left and van on the right:



What was the correct course of action - I will acknowledge that raising my arm might have been inflammatory, but it was a WTF arm raise - not a middle finger, not a shouted insult, no gesticulating, no shouted comment about nearly running them over - nothing to that effect. Certainly nothing that would result in a driver stopping, reversing, threatening to "fking kill us all" twice, calling me what he did (I'll omit that here) or scaring the living st out of my seven year old daughter.

Smokehead

7,703 posts

229 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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To be honest, I'd be bloody raising my arm too.

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Bloody hell, James. I hope they deal with this properly. Not on. Some people are just pricks and shouldn't be allowed to walk let alone drive.

Very sorry Glad no one needed an Ambiwlans.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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James, if ever a man could take a joke it must be you, you have done the right thing contacting the police. The driver shouting abuse at you actually did well to notice the colour of your skin, most of the people that drive past me when I'm on my bike clearly haven't seen me at all...

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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This makes me feel sick. It's not so much him threatening and abusing, there's plenty of those out there but to go off like that in front of kids is just unforgivable. An adult might well be rattled but they'll get on with it, a child could be properly traumatised by that sort of behaviour, especially as it's directed at the ones she loves.

Hope you get some sort of result James and that your daughter quickly forgets about it.

Scumbag.

kiseca

9,339 posts

220 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Terrible, James I hope it works out for you and your daughter. What a jerk! A coward too, yells insults then back in his car and fks off. Hope the police bash the door down while he's standing in front of it.

Sheepshanks

32,887 posts

120 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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james_tigerwoods said:
What was the correct course of action -
What you're supposed to do is think like the Protection Officer mentality, which is not to react to the aggressor at all, and to remove the persons you're protecting from the situation.

Tough to do in practice - even the pro's can't stop themselves jumping on the attacker sometimes. Plus if you'd have ignored the guy he might have escalated his aggression.

james_tigerwoods

Original Poster:

16,289 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
james_tigerwoods said:
What was the correct course of action -
What you're supposed to do is think like the Protection Officer mentality, which is not to react to the aggressor at all, and to remove the persons you're protecting from the situation.

Tough to do in practice - even the pro's can't stop themselves jumping on the attacker sometimes. Plus if you'd have ignored the guy he might have escalated his aggression.
Personally I feel I showed restraint by not saying exactly what I wanted to which was to highlight my genuine fear for my family.

I have ignored much idiocy when I'm out on my bike before including having things thrown at me before when it's aimed at me, but when it's aimed at my family, it's a tough one to ignore.

Martin_M

2,071 posts

228 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Well done for reporting it! Keep us posted on how things develop.

killsta

1,730 posts

229 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Sump said:
Why did you raise your arm? You got yourself involved..and him being close to you is an opinion. There is no weight here as there isn't a video so it's all very one sided.
Oh behave. It's a perfectly reasonable reaction to almost being run over.

BoRED S2upid

19,731 posts

241 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Martin_M said:
Well done for reporting it! Keep us posted on how things develop.
I predict nothing will happen or at the most yet another caution for the local scumbag who probably acts like that daily. Every town has them unfortunately.

b4bby

267 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Very surprised to hear of anything like that going on around that area, It's usually quiet during the day.

I must admit I feel pretty safe around scunny but aholes can pop anywhere I guess.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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J4CKO said:
pablo said:
NoNeed said:
J4CKO said:
Find car, destroy car !
This is PH and the door is that way >>>>>>>>>>>GET OUT
Take your own advice, I suspect you are in a majority of one on this. The OP was subject to some horrific and unjustified abuse in front of his family and yet you show more concern towards the moron's car when someone suggests destroying it? You need to have a good think about your values.
I think we are both kind of joking Pablo, but I appreciate the sentiment.
Me too


But I would prefer the morons face be deatroyed than an innocent car.