Would you lilke to keep tabs on your kids via GPRS?
Discussion
Faust66 said:
*Tin foil hat time.
Let's breed a generation of kids that are used to being constantly tracked and kept tabs on by their parents. We'll let them grow up with no real idea or concept of 'freedom' or independence. Then, when they learn to drive we'll sell 'em the idea that having a 'black box' which keeps track of their driving in their car will make things cheaper for them. Man, they're gonna lap it up.
And the best thing is that as they get older and have kids of their own, we'll be able to push even more surveillance on them and they'll accept it as a natural part of life… and when their kids grow up... ad infinitum.
Probably adding myself to "The List" but that's my initial thought. Let's breed a generation of kids that are used to being constantly tracked and kept tabs on by their parents. We'll let them grow up with no real idea or concept of 'freedom' or independence. Then, when they learn to drive we'll sell 'em the idea that having a 'black box' which keeps track of their driving in their car will make things cheaper for them. Man, they're gonna lap it up.
And the best thing is that as they get older and have kids of their own, we'll be able to push even more surveillance on them and they'll accept it as a natural part of life… and when their kids grow up... ad infinitum.
- takes off tin foil hat.
I have a friend who tracks her daughter via her Oyster card. She went bat s
t when her daughter missed one bus and caught the next one 20 mins later. The thought that she was a teenager having a convo with her friends was lost on her. Faust66 said:
*Tin foil hat time.
Let's breed a generation of kids that are used to being constantly tracked and kept tabs on by their parents. We'll let them grow up with no real idea or concept of 'freedom' or independence. Then, when they learn to drive we'll sell 'em the idea that having a 'black box' which keeps track of their driving in their car will make things cheaper for them. Man, they're gonna lap it up.
And the best thing is that as they get older and have kids of their own, we'll be able to push even more surveillance on them and they'll accept it as a natural part of life… and when their kids grow up... ad infinitum.
Would like to revisit this post in 25 years time and see just how loony it sounds then...Let's breed a generation of kids that are used to being constantly tracked and kept tabs on by their parents. We'll let them grow up with no real idea or concept of 'freedom' or independence. Then, when they learn to drive we'll sell 'em the idea that having a 'black box' which keeps track of their driving in their car will make things cheaper for them. Man, they're gonna lap it up.
And the best thing is that as they get older and have kids of their own, we'll be able to push even more surveillance on them and they'll accept it as a natural part of life… and when their kids grow up... ad infinitum.
- takes off tin foil hat.
As for tagging children I can't possibly see how that could lead to complacency and actually have exactly the opposite effect to the one most are thinking about. If there are a large number of people who are happy to allow ITV to be in charge of their child care can you imagine the effect something like this could have for a start.
Moonhawk said:
R2T2 said:
From about 11 onwards I had a mobile, and when I was needed home, I was called.
Mobile phone from age 11.......luxury. We were given 10p and told to find a phone box if we needed to get in touch. 
We were just expected to cry to the nearest "nice looking lady" and hope they'd take pity.
Or if things were really dire, reverse charge the phone call and enjoy a proper b
king on arrival home. 
DoubleSix said:
10p? such opulance!
We were just expected to cry to the nearest "nice looking lady" and hope they'd take pity.
Or if things were really dire, reverse charge the phone call and enjoy a proper bking on arrival home.
Cry!!??? Such luxury.We were just expected to cry to the nearest "nice looking lady" and hope they'd take pity.
Or if things were really dire, reverse charge the phone call and enjoy a proper b
king on arrival home. We weren't allowed to be seen or heard, so we had to dig a tunnel with our bare hands to get us back home, where we'd be sent to bed without our tea.
IanCress said:
DoubleSix said:
10p? such opulance!
We were just expected to cry to the nearest "nice looking lady" and hope they'd take pity.
Or if things were really dire, reverse charge the phone call and enjoy a proper bking on arrival home.
Cry!!??? Such luxury.We were just expected to cry to the nearest "nice looking lady" and hope they'd take pity.
Or if things were really dire, reverse charge the phone call and enjoy a proper b
king on arrival home. We weren't allowed to be seen or heard, so we had to dig a tunnel with our bare hands to get us back home, where we'd be sent to bed without our tea.
Timmy40 said:
Life 360 ....." With Life360, just open the app and instantly see everyone in your private Circle on the map. "
Sod that. The last thing I want is for my Wife to be able to see exactly where I am at any point in time on a map.
And it is an odd discussion more to the point. The same argument used about monitoring of the internet: "If you are not going anywhere that you shouldn't be then I can track you." "But I don't want to be tracked all the time" "You have something to hide?" etc..Sod that. The last thing I want is for my Wife to be able to see exactly where I am at any point in time on a map.
I live in South West London and my daughter 13 has to get three buses to school and back. I regularly check on "find my phone" to see where she is if she is running late. That is if she remembers to turn the phone on!!!! Just last week the wife dropped her off in Wimbledon to meet friends and go and watch a film. Where she was dropped off was a short walk to where she was meeting her friends. We checked the app to make sure she got there and was in the cinema. It's a great app for just reassuring yourself that your child is where they said they would be.
No harm doing it if the kid doesn't know, but you'd probably think yourself a bit daft once you're sat down on an evening following the little red dot on your iPad.
I think the advent of the internet has made people a little more cautious, all I was told to do was not accept sweets off strangers, which seems like a golden bygone era of paedophilia.
I think the advent of the internet has made people a little more cautious, all I was told to do was not accept sweets off strangers, which seems like a golden bygone era of paedophilia.
R2T2 said:
When I was a kid in the 90's I would be allowed out all day, providing they knew where I was. I would be 1 of 4 places, and I had to be in at a certain time.
Skate park.
Friends house
another friends house
Field playing.
riding between 1 of the 4.
It's not that I was predictable, it was that we played football in the field, cocked about in the park on the skate bit, or was out our mates houses getting fed/watered/bladders emptied or on a game of some sort.
From about 11 onwards I had a mobile, and when I was needed home, I was called.
Nowadays kids are very molly-coddled, it's a bit sad really as I live opposite a massive field, with a little off road track carved into the edge with a few ramps. You used to see kids out playing everyday in summer, now it's 5 a day, if that.
They'd rather be inside on their icrap watching tele or something.
Exactly the same as my childhood, wouldn't change it for the world and it saddens me that future generations won't get to experience a childhood like itSkate park.
Friends house
another friends house
Field playing.
riding between 1 of the 4.
It's not that I was predictable, it was that we played football in the field, cocked about in the park on the skate bit, or was out our mates houses getting fed/watered/bladders emptied or on a game of some sort.
From about 11 onwards I had a mobile, and when I was needed home, I was called.
Nowadays kids are very molly-coddled, it's a bit sad really as I live opposite a massive field, with a little off road track carved into the edge with a few ramps. You used to see kids out playing everyday in summer, now it's 5 a day, if that.
They'd rather be inside on their icrap watching tele or something.
My young cousins are terrible, at the age where me and my mates would be down the woods with shovels trying to build a bike ramp they are sat inside playing angry candy crush birds saga on their tablets, I'm sure kids are getting more 'weedy and pale' nowadays.
I don't think it is the kids fault though, in a lot of cases it is probably the parents (usually the mother lets be honest) being too over protective because their friend tagged them in a paedophile story on facebook and is now convinced any stranger is a paedophile looking to abduct every kid they see.
Saying that, I'm only 25, I don't have kids so cannot speak as a parent, maybe the news stories are more frightening when you have kids of your own.
Timmy40 said:
Life 360 ....." With Life360, just open the app and instantly see everyone in your private Circle on the map. "
Sod that. The last thing I want is for my Wife to be able to see exactly where I am at any point in time on a map.
Whereas I'm not bothered if my wife knows where I am - it's normally work or gym. It saves having to text her to let her know.Sod that. The last thing I want is for my Wife to be able to see exactly where I am at any point in time on a map.
That aside - you can simply switch it off.
An old work colleague proposed to do this with the Find my iPhone app, so she knew where her husband & kids were at every second of the day; IIRC she bought a number of 'shares' in Tile.
Personally I find the prospect horrifying.
In the 70s & 80s when I & my brother were growing up, we ahd to be home for tea, and if we went out after tea, before dark. When we were teens, we were to wait for Mum to collect us from the appointed spot from 5 minutes before the agreed time. If Mum wasn't there, someone else (appropriate) would be. IF no one was there after 30 minutes, we had an 'emergency' friend of Mum's to call who would come & get us.
We knew there was the 'funny man in a mac' in the parks, and that we were to avoid him.
We knew that if anyone approached us without the 'key' word from Mum, we were to run to the nearest occupied house & ask them to call the Police as we'd been approached.
We knew that if we said we were going to the Park/Ford/Shops/Fred's, then we had better be there if Mum needed us, or have let her know. I wasn't. Once. We went to Dave's after Fred's, and I planned to rang her when we got to Dave's as I didn't know where it was when we left Freds. Mum had gone out (to Freds as she needed me). But because Dave wasn't in we walked back to Fred's. I was very upset when I saw the state my Mum was in by the time she found us. We all were.
But not letting them have any freedom or privacy
How are they going to grow into responsible adults?
Personally I find the prospect horrifying.
In the 70s & 80s when I & my brother were growing up, we ahd to be home for tea, and if we went out after tea, before dark. When we were teens, we were to wait for Mum to collect us from the appointed spot from 5 minutes before the agreed time. If Mum wasn't there, someone else (appropriate) would be. IF no one was there after 30 minutes, we had an 'emergency' friend of Mum's to call who would come & get us.
We knew there was the 'funny man in a mac' in the parks, and that we were to avoid him.
We knew that if anyone approached us without the 'key' word from Mum, we were to run to the nearest occupied house & ask them to call the Police as we'd been approached.
We knew that if we said we were going to the Park/Ford/Shops/Fred's, then we had better be there if Mum needed us, or have let her know. I wasn't. Once. We went to Dave's after Fred's, and I planned to rang her when we got to Dave's as I didn't know where it was when we left Freds. Mum had gone out (to Freds as she needed me). But because Dave wasn't in we walked back to Fred's. I was very upset when I saw the state my Mum was in by the time she found us. We all were.
But not letting them have any freedom or privacy
How are they going to grow into responsible adults?
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