Would you lilke to keep tabs on your kids via GPRS?
Discussion
Timmy40 said:
I that context it's a bit like a tracker on your car. Having said that isn't it possible with all smart phones ( so long as they are on ) to get the location anyway? If required, for example by the plod.
If that is the case most abductors would throw the victim's mobile phone away when they took the victim?I know that they can get the rough location at least from the network but I don't know that it's as accurate as GPS (rather it's as accurate as a GPRS cell, appropriately).
Moreover, from the Big Brother point of view, isn't the OP's user name appropriate?
It already exists
Life360 free app
All my family have it. My lad cycles to school so I want to make sure he gets there and back
My daughter has iit because she never answers her phone
My wife. And I have it and the street is a geofence and tells me if anyone comes or leaves
Really good app
Life360 free app
All my family have it. My lad cycles to school so I want to make sure he gets there and back
My daughter has iit because she never answers her phone
My wife. And I have it and the street is a geofence and tells me if anyone comes or leaves
Really good app
NinjaPower said:
Studio117 said:
I think some of you need to get a f
king grip.
+1king grip.It's absolutely f
king ridiculous.A friend of mine recently refused to entertain the idea of leaving her 4 year old son at a Marriot hotel resort Kids Club for a morning because "paedophiles get jobs like that so they can have access to children"
Everyone is just getting hysterical about what might happen to their kids, and I think as Studio said, they need to get a f
king grip.I would like to see the statistical evidence that proves kids are exposed to more danger now than in the 80's for example, when I was a kid.
Perhaps suitable though if you live in Aleppo or Medellin.
Here's another +1 for Studio117.
When I was younger, my parents were encouraging me to play outside, go to the park and have fun. Such is healthy for children.
I have always hated the idea of being monitored. If they had tried to make me wear some kind of nancy-boy tracker I would have just gone to my room and picked up a Nintendo or something. Any motivation to go outside would have been completely destroyed by the thought of being watched.
When I was younger, my parents were encouraging me to play outside, go to the park and have fun. Such is healthy for children.
I have always hated the idea of being monitored. If they had tried to make me wear some kind of nancy-boy tracker I would have just gone to my room and picked up a Nintendo or something. Any motivation to go outside would have been completely destroyed by the thought of being watched.
This may come as a shock to some - there is nothing within the App which prevents children from playing outside, going to the park and/or having fun. In fact if they didn't go outside, play in the park etc etc there would actually be no need for the App. Also you don't actually "wear" a nancy boy tracker (what is one of those? A tracker especially for nancy boys??). And parents don't monitor it 24/7, or even 12/7, or 0.000001/7. It's there when you need it, IF you need it.
A few years ago I imagine there would have been a similar conversation about kids and mobile phones. "Eeee we didn't have them new fangled sissyboy phones when Ah were nobbut a lad!It would have proper cramped my style when ah were scrumpin' for apples. if me ma and da wanted me they'd just holler down t'pit...."
{Or somesuch.I dont know how poor people talk
)I'm not a parent and most likely won't ever want kids anyway.
Reading comments from 'Hitler parents' who want to track their children and exercise 150% control over every aspect of their lives make depressing reading. Why have kids in the first place if you don't learn to give them a bit of freedom?
You'd be better getting a flucking goldfish - they won't escape from their sorry bowls that way.
Reading comments from 'Hitler parents' who want to track their children and exercise 150% control over every aspect of their lives make depressing reading. Why have kids in the first place if you don't learn to give them a bit of freedom?
You'd be better getting a flucking goldfish - they won't escape from their sorry bowls that way.
DannyScene said:
R2T2 said:
When I was a kid in the 90's I would be allowed out all day, providing they knew where I was. I would be 1 of 4 places, and I had to be in at a certain time.
Skate park.
Friends house
another friends house
Field playing.
riding between 1 of the 4.
It's not that I was predictable, it was that we played football in the field, cocked about in the park on the skate bit, or was out our mates houses getting fed/watered/bladders emptied or on a game of some sort.
From about 11 onwards I had a mobile, and when I was needed home, I was called.
Nowadays kids are very molly-coddled, it's a bit sad really as I live opposite a massive field, with a little off road track carved into the edge with a few ramps. You used to see kids out playing everyday in summer, now it's 5 a day, if that.
They'd rather be inside on their icrap watching tele or something.
Exactly the same as my childhood, wouldn't change it for the world and it saddens me that future generations won't get to experience a childhood like itSkate park.
Friends house
another friends house
Field playing.
riding between 1 of the 4.
It's not that I was predictable, it was that we played football in the field, cocked about in the park on the skate bit, or was out our mates houses getting fed/watered/bladders emptied or on a game of some sort.
From about 11 onwards I had a mobile, and when I was needed home, I was called.
Nowadays kids are very molly-coddled, it's a bit sad really as I live opposite a massive field, with a little off road track carved into the edge with a few ramps. You used to see kids out playing everyday in summer, now it's 5 a day, if that.
They'd rather be inside on their icrap watching tele or something.
My young cousins are terrible, at the age where me and my mates would be down the woods with shovels trying to build a bike ramp they are sat inside playing angry candy crush birds saga on their tablets, I'm sure kids are getting more 'weedy and pale' nowadays.
I don't think it is the kids fault though, in a lot of cases it is probably the parents (usually the mother lets be honest) being too over protective because their friend tagged them in a paedophile story on facebook and is now convinced any stranger is a paedophile looking to abduct every kid they see.
Saying that, I'm only 25, I don't have kids so cannot speak as a parent, maybe the news stories are more frightening when you have kids of your own.
R2T2 said:
......and they don't like to let them out of their sites because of the sheer volume of weirdos and nutters about.
Is this "sheer volume of weirdos and nutters" real or perceived?I suspect the latter. Peoples perception of danger and risk seems to have become massively skewed based on what is reported in the meeja.
I don't have kids. If I did I'd set up Find My Friends with them all...and probably fit their phones with Ignore No More, too. There again I'd be happy for them to know where I am, too. The whole being connected thing is wonderful - the wife and I love it.
Once they are heading into later teenage, though, I'd be rid of the controls and let them be responsible for their phone settings...hoping the job done earlier was good enough for them to be trusted.
They've got to make some of their own mistakes...
Once they are heading into later teenage, though, I'd be rid of the controls and let them be responsible for their phone settings...hoping the job done earlier was good enough for them to be trusted.
They've got to make some of their own mistakes...
R2T2 said:
DannyScene said:
R2T2 said:
When I was a kid in the 90's I would be allowed out all day, providing they knew where I was. I would be 1 of 4 places, and I had to be in at a certain time.
Skate park.
Friends house
another friends house
Field playing.
riding between 1 of the 4.
It's not that I was predictable, it was that we played football in the field, cocked about in the park on the skate bit, or was out our mates houses getting fed/watered/bladders emptied or on a game of some sort.
From about 11 onwards I had a mobile, and when I was needed home, I was called.
Nowadays kids are very molly-coddled, it's a bit sad really as I live opposite a massive field, with a little off road track carved into the edge with a few ramps. You used to see kids out playing everyday in summer, now it's 5 a day, if that.
They'd rather be inside on their icrap watching tele or something.
Exactly the same as my childhood, wouldn't change it for the world and it saddens me that future generations won't get to experience a childhood like itSkate park.
Friends house
another friends house
Field playing.
riding between 1 of the 4.
It's not that I was predictable, it was that we played football in the field, cocked about in the park on the skate bit, or was out our mates houses getting fed/watered/bladders emptied or on a game of some sort.
From about 11 onwards I had a mobile, and when I was needed home, I was called.
Nowadays kids are very molly-coddled, it's a bit sad really as I live opposite a massive field, with a little off road track carved into the edge with a few ramps. You used to see kids out playing everyday in summer, now it's 5 a day, if that.
They'd rather be inside on their icrap watching tele or something.
My young cousins are terrible, at the age where me and my mates would be down the woods with shovels trying to build a bike ramp they are sat inside playing angry candy crush birds saga on their tablets, I'm sure kids are getting more 'weedy and pale' nowadays.
I don't think it is the kids fault though, in a lot of cases it is probably the parents (usually the mother lets be honest) being too over protective because their friend tagged them in a paedophile story on facebook and is now convinced any stranger is a paedophile looking to abduct every kid they see.
Saying that, I'm only 25, I don't have kids so cannot speak as a parent, maybe the news stories are more frightening when you have kids of your own.
I also think that years ago a weirdo would just be described as a weirdo, a bit quirky but no harm really but now everyone would probably cry paedophile.
I think the media have overhyped the danger to a near dangerous point and pretty soon the whole world will be like that south park episode where the parents force the kids out or town as they don't trust anyone to not be a paedophile anymore
R2T2 said:
they don't like to let them out of their sites because of the sheer volume of weirdos and nutters about. I must admit, I can see what they mean.
A - its SIGHT, this is a site...B - What volume? 1/3 of abductions are family and over 1/2 are actually run aways. There are less wierdos & nutters around now than there were in the 70s & 80s, just the few that are around reach a wider audience, and most of those that are known to the family/victim.
Edited by ali_kat on Tuesday 30th June 11:29
I could see the benefit up until the age when they can go off with friends. Mine are 2 and 3, and it would be useful to have the comfort that if they did disappear from sight that you could quickly locate them, be it in a supermarket, high street wherever. Its not happened to me, but I have seen the sheer panic in other parents faces when they have lost sight of their toddler.
When they grow older I hope they are brought up sufficiently well enough to be trusted.
When they grow older I hope they are brought up sufficiently well enough to be trusted.
Personally i'm looking forwards to the day when,
a) kids are micro-chipped. It could be turned into a 'rites of passage; thing, like a Bahmizva,
b) fitted with an internal shock generator that discourages asboesque behaviours but rewards 16+ teens with a happy ending for positive results. Eat in McsSlurry, 20v shock to the hands, don't submit your homework, 30v shock, help an old lady across the road - happy ending later,
c) kids can be guided via a sat nav link and an open source ap. Exampe, see your kid hanging around the precinct past eleven, turn the ap on, and a hard wired brain link enables you to steer your child home via the ap. To make it more fun for the parent, the screen can be overlaid with Packman type monsters (Savile, Harris, West etc). Get them home safely and everyone wins.
The controller should be modelled more like the interface on an 80's video game.
You might be able to tell that i'm not a parent... but would make a bloody good one.
a) kids are micro-chipped. It could be turned into a 'rites of passage; thing, like a Bahmizva,
b) fitted with an internal shock generator that discourages asboesque behaviours but rewards 16+ teens with a happy ending for positive results. Eat in McsSlurry, 20v shock to the hands, don't submit your homework, 30v shock, help an old lady across the road - happy ending later,
c) kids can be guided via a sat nav link and an open source ap. Exampe, see your kid hanging around the precinct past eleven, turn the ap on, and a hard wired brain link enables you to steer your child home via the ap. To make it more fun for the parent, the screen can be overlaid with Packman type monsters (Savile, Harris, West etc). Get them home safely and everyone wins.
The controller should be modelled more like the interface on an 80's video game.
You might be able to tell that i'm not a parent... but would make a bloody good one.
Dr Murdoch said:
I could see the benefit up until the age when they can go off with friends. Mine are 2 and 3, and it would be useful to have the comfort that if they did disappear from sight that you could quickly locate them, be it in a supermarket, high street wherever. Its not happened to me, but I have seen the sheer panic in other parents faces when they have lost sight of their toddler.
When they grow older I hope they are brought up sufficiently well enough to be trusted.
You'd give a toddler a phone? When they grow older I hope they are brought up sufficiently well enough to be trusted.
Moonhawk said:
Is this "sheer volume of weirdos and nutters" real or perceived?
I suspect the latter. Peoples perception of danger and risk seems to have become massively skewed based on what is reported in the meeja.
It is perceived. As mentioned in the other quote years ago there was that one "odd" bloke who we tried not to trouble, and then the full on mental who would threaten to stab the ball if it came in his garden again. I suspect the latter. Peoples perception of danger and risk seems to have become massively skewed based on what is reported in the meeja.
We learnt about stranger danger. and when to fccking run
ali_kat said:
A - its SIGHT, this is a site...
B - What volume? 1/3 of abductions are family and over 1/2 are actually run aways. There are less wierdos & nutters around now than there were in the 70s & 80s, just the few that are around reach a wider audience, and most of those that are known to the family/victim.
You got me. It is sight. It was an error in judgement, and typing quicker than I can think; it's been a long morning! B - What volume? 1/3 of abductions are family and over 1/2 are actually run aways. There are less wierdos & nutters around now than there were in the 70s & 80s, just the few that are around reach a wider audience, and most of those that are known to the family/victim.
Edited by ali_kat on Tuesday 30th June 11:29
It is generally somebody known to the family.
I think that the media to blow it ridiclously out of proportion and basically terrify parents into molly coddling their kids through fear of them being adducted or something along those lines.
Phew, at 21 I was worried you were like the interns I'm dealing with... Can read, cannot comprehend. Can write, cannot spell. Have been molly coddled, have no common sense!R2T2 said:
I think that the media to blow it ridiclously out of proportion and basically terrify parents into molly coddling their kids through fear of them being adducted or something along those lines.
Absolutely!This thread is the result!!
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