Send in the boys ?

[Martin_M]

HerrNipps said:

Martin_M said:

Let's rewind things here, I think we can be fairly certain that the 'advert' or whatever you want to call it, is in no way an official SAS item.

Perhaps not, but it is a symptom of the mindset of the "great" British.

I'm not an expert and it's not a view I share but I believe that if British people are being affected by terrorism then our country should be prepared to do what they can to keep us safe both at home and abroad. The quote in the picture posted strikes me as something you would see in American propaganda but again, I'm sure many Americans would disagree.

[HerrNipps]

Martin_M said:

I'm not an expert and it's not a view I share but I believe that if British people are being affected by terrorism then our country should be prepared to do what they can to keep us safe both at home and abroad. The quote in the picture posted strikes me as something you would see in American propaganda but again, I'm sure many Americans would disagree.

My friend, I agree that a nation should do whatever to quell the threat from within, but when it is foreign policy causing the upsets perhaps it is time to look in the mirror.

[Martin_M]

HerrNipps said:

Martin_M said:

I'm not an expert and it's not a view I share but I believe that if British people are being affected by terrorism then our country should be prepared to do what they can to keep us safe both at home and abroad. The quote in the picture posted strikes me as something you would see in American propaganda but again, I'm sure many Americans would disagree.

My friend, I agree that a nation should do whatever to quell the threat from within, but when it is foreign policy causing the upsets perhaps it is time to look in the mirror.

Are you suggesting that Britain's foreign policy is somehow causing the terrorism related to ISIS? I'm not trying to start an argument but I am interested in what you mean.

[birdcage]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Oh I don't know, that NI petrol station thing looked quite good

[HerrNipps]

Martin_M said:

Are you suggesting that Britain's foreign policy is somehow causing the terrorism related to ISIS? I'm not trying to start an argument but I am interested in what you mean.

I didn't mention ISIS at all. What I'm saying is that if you go around the world seemingly targeting a specific people, do not be surprised when it bites you back.

It is almost appearing your nation learned nothing from the Irish situation you had, it is time to look in the mirror and consider your treatment of the world.

[Martin_M]

HerrNipps said:

Martin_M said:

Are you suggesting that Britain's foreign policy is somehow causing the terrorism related to ISIS? I'm not trying to start an argument but I am interested in what you mean.

I didn't mention ISIS at all. What I'm saying is that if you go around the world seemingly targeting a specific people, do not be surprised when it bites you back.

It is almost appearing your nation learned nothing from the Irish situation you had, it is time to look in the mirror and consider your treatment of the world.

I know you didn't mentioned ISIS - I referred to this particular group because it is probably the most significant threat to the UK at this time - happy to stand corrected on that one if others know better. Also, given that the original picture refers to 'terrorists' I assumed this was the theme we were discussing.

If you could be more specific, what 'specific people' do you see Britain as targeting? and in what way are you unhappy with Britain's treatment of 'the world'?

[HerrNipps]

Martin_M said:

I know you didn't mentioned ISIS - I referred to this particular group because it is probably the most significant threat to the UK at this time - happy to stand corrected on that one if others know better. Also, given that the original picture refers to 'terrorists' I assumed this was the theme we were discussing.

If you could be more specific, what 'specific people' do you see Britain as targeting? and in what way are you unhappy with Britain's treatment of 'the world'?

My friend, you know exactly how your country's policies create enemies, you do not need me to explain. A word of caution, the "we didn't know" defence did not work in the Nuremberg Trials and it will not work in the future. Instead of trying to make me out to be wrong, perhaps the previously mentioned look in the mirror might be in order.

[Schmy]

Chunkymonkey71 said:

We get enough 'Britain First' style support our troops bigoted propaganda ste on Facebook without it spilling into here too.

Share if you hate puppy cruelty but love our troops and Diana

[anonymous-user]

Didn't we fund them at the start of the Syrian "balls up"?

[Martin_M]

HerrNipps said:

My friend, you know exactly how your country's policies create enemies, you do not need me to explain. A word of caution, the "we didn't know" defence did not work in the Nuremberg Trials and it will not work in the future. Instead of trying to make me out to be wrong, perhaps the previously mentioned look in the mirror might be in order.

So essentially, rather than writing anything of substance to actually allow for intelligent debate, you are being very vague and putting it back on me. However, clearly our debate wouldn't go anywhere as from what I have said, you have already quoted me as making out you are wrong. If you read back, you'll notice that I actually said I was interested in your views. Someone asking you to clarify and/or explain what you mean or are referring to is not the same thing as them disagreeing with you.

[HerrNipps]

Martin_M said:

So essentially, rather than writing anything of substance to actually allow for intelligent debate, you are being very vague and putting it back on me. However, clearly our debate wouldn't go anywhere as from what I have said, you have already quoted me as making out you are wrong. If you read back, you'll notice that I actually said I was interested in your views. Someone asking you to clarify and/or explain what you mean or are referring to is not the same thing as them disagreeing with you.

Ok, I believe that Britain's status as lapdogs to the Team America brings a lot of issues to your door.

[Vizsla]

DocJock said:

Or perhaps they have belatedly learned to keep their noses out of business that should be no concern of ours.

Quite a few people thought like this in 1939 when the Nazis decided to go on an extended tour of Poland.
History hasn't judged them in a very good light, has it? Cancer is best treated early.

[barryrs]

HerrNipps said:

Ok, I believe that Britain's status as lapdogs to the Team America brings a lot of issues to your door.

I thought that was France in recent years.

I do find the picture cringe worthy and would associate such things with Americans. That's not a criticism i just don't "get" the whole whoop whoop attitude.

[Countdown]

desolate said:

Didn't we fund them at the start of the Syrian "balls up"?

I've lost track of who we are and aren't funding or selling arms to. I know we're definitely not fans of ISIL but we ARE allies of the Saudis and Qataris who support ISIL. We're not supporters of Assad even though he's fighting ISIL and a host of Al Qaeda franchises. We're not supporting the AQ franchises even though they oppose Assad and ISIL.

[DocJock]

Vizsla said:

DocJock said:

Or perhaps they have belatedly learned to keep their noses out of business that should be no concern of ours.

Quite a few people thought like this in 1939 when the Nazis decided to go on an extended tour of Poland.
History hasn't judged them in a very good light, has it? Cancer is best treated early.

Who exactly appointed us as the world's oncologist?

We, along with other US camp-followers, are already responsible for the rise of the IS cancer.

[PoleDriver]

themanwithnoname said:

In to call boycowpoopie.

Translation please?

[PoleDriver]

DocJock said:

Or perhaps they have belatedly learned to keep their noses out of business that should be no concern of ours.

But the filthy cancerous vermin made it our business when they started killing innocent British people!

[longshot]

HerrNipps said:

Martin_M said:

So essentially, rather than writing anything of substance to actually allow for intelligent debate, you are being very vague and putting it back on me. However, clearly our debate wouldn't go anywhere as from what I have said, you have already quoted me as making out you are wrong. If you read back, you'll notice that I actually said I was interested in your views. Someone asking you to clarify and/or explain what you mean or are referring to is not the same thing as them disagreeing with you.

Ok, I believe that Britain's status as lapdogs to the Team America brings a lot of issues to your door.

Excuse me but I think you'll find it is a special relationship we have, not lapdog and owner.

Anyway, isn't there a SAS sniper who posts on here who could clear this up?

Edited by longshot on Saturday 4th July 22:02

[nute]

Martin_M said:

So essentially, rather than writing anything of substance to actually allow for intelligent debate, you are being very vague and putting it back on me. However, clearly our debate wouldn't go anywhere as from what I have said, you have already quoted me as making out you are wrong. If you read back, you'll notice that I actually said I was interested in your views. Someone asking you to clarify and/or explain what you mean or are referring to is not the same thing as them disagreeing with you.

We should never have become involved in the invasion of Iraq. For that matter neither should the US but GWB was determined to settle his family score with Saddam no matter what. Sadly Iraq took the focus off of Afghanistan and as a result both places are now sliding toward chaos. The gullible and weak minded are easily persuaded that our actions are anti islamic by those that have an agenda and hence, not only have we made ourselves a target but our actions are recruiting fodder for the lunatics who hate us.

Im not suggesting we just sit back and take it but I am pointing out that we should be more circumspect in getting pulled into pointless wars by the US.

[Oakey]

TheEnd said:

It's the equivalent of a Franklin mint commemorative plate, sold to the kind of people that collect knives.

Hey, fk you! I collect knives, I have a draw full of them.

They're kept in the knife room.

Or as everyone else in the house insists on calling it 'the kitchen'.