Feral youth - What are you supposed to do?
Discussion
Thankyou4calling said:
FredClogs said:
It's not a mine field it's very straight forward, you're allowed to act reasonably to defend yourself. The fact it's a minor doesn't change anything. Obviously what is reasonable is entirely scenario dependent, and would be left to the system and/or a jury to decide.
Don't be scared to defend yourself, the law is on your side and always has been.
I was just posting this. Too many think you can't defend yourself, in fact I think lots use it as an excuse because they are too scared and CANT defend themselves.Don't be scared to defend yourself, the law is on your side and always has been.
Push em to the ground or a decent kick in the nuts.
Of course you'll be arrested the cops have to but it'll go no further, and if the yobs say they are filming it, good! That's even better.
And let's not forget, I did give him a push/drag and he did f
k off (even then I was worrying about lying a hand on him due to the adult vs minor thing), but according to a few I'm a jessie for not laying down a Clint Eastwood style beat down on a c. 15 year old boy and slapping about 13/14 year girl old in a fight that clearly didn't need to happen.It should have happened, they crossed the line hitting either one of us but in this day and age I just don't think a few bangs that don't even register on the adults warrants handing out a full on hiding, at least in the eyes of the law.
You know what the headlines would be in your local paper 'Local MAN savagely beats innocent child' and this story would have to be complete with the poor youth with his hair combed and his top button done up looking all sad, standing in front of his scowling Mum, who wears a sleeveless top so that she can show off her new tats.
And God forbid you've ever had an interesting job or pastime, as it would have to mention 'EX-teacher/soldier/scout leader/boxer'
And God forbid you've ever had an interesting job or pastime, as it would have to mention 'EX-teacher/soldier/scout leader/boxer'
Issi said:
You know what the headlines would be in your local paper 'Local MAN savagely beats innocent child' and this story would have to be complete with the poor youth with his hair combed and his top button done up looking all sad, standing in front of his scowling Mum, who wears a sleeveless top so that she can show off her new tats.
And God forbid you've ever had an interesting job or pastime, as it would have to mention 'EX-teacher/soldier/scout leader/boxer'
Sadly true.And God forbid you've ever had an interesting job or pastime, as it would have to mention 'EX-teacher/soldier/scout leader/boxer'
CoinSl0t said:
Sadly true.
Yes if you did savagely beat a youth but I for one am certainly not advocating that.No, a good shove is all it takes.
The arrests happen and the guilty person ( the youth) gets the sentence.
The local papers reported mine without a headline, it's hardly headline news, just with a small column saying a local youth had been found guilty of threatening behaviour against a 44 year old businessman ( it was 5 years ago)
I can't understand all the histrionics and drama for something that can be dealt with in two seconds. No killing or maiming, no Ninja tactics a good old fashioned shove will put paid to a 14 or 15 year old kid and if more did it the world would be a better Plato
Soov535 said:
Have another 
Little f
king tt of a boy.OP: I'd be mortified if what happened to you happened to me. We may always think, "I'd tt the little st!", but the reality, when faced with it, is we wouldn't even chuck a can of Red Bull at them.
I think I'd have walked away, then been mad at myself for not having smacked him back. The problem nowadays is you can't tell if the little gits are tooled up.
Little fking tt of a boy.^^^ I agree!
I'd be mortified if my children spoke like that.
The 23 year old deserves a "justgiving" page to reimburse his costs/fine!
t the little st!", but the reality, when faced with it, is we wouldn't even chuck a can of Red Bull at them.I think I'd have walked away, then been mad at myself for not having smacked him back. The problem nowadays is you can't tell if the little gits are tooled up.
MrBarry123 said:
Soov535 said:
Have another Little f
king tt of a boy.I'd be mortified if my children spoke like that.
The 23 year old deserves a "justgiving" page to reimburse his costs/fine!
Edited by 5potTurbo on Thursday 9th July 16:01
Soov535 said:
That's lifebuoy.Soov535 said:
The 'a bit council' thread summed up in one vile photo.Soov535 said:
You can tell he's already a spoilt little bd that'll only grow up to spawn more scum like himself
OP: sorry for going off topic!
If this is him, there are a few funny pics/comments on there: https://www.facebook.com/DJB1RTY?fref=ts
However, I would pay towards his fine & costs!
MrBarry123 said:
5potTurbo said:
^^^ I agree!
I'd be mortified if my children spoke like that.
The 23 year old deserves a "justgiving" page to reimburse his costs/fine!
Please someone create one. I'll donate.I'd be mortified if my children spoke like that.
The 23 year old deserves a "justgiving" page to reimburse his costs/fine!
However, I would pay towards his fine & costs!
5potTurbo said:
^^^ I agree!
I'd be mortified if my children spoke like that.
The 23 year old deserves a "justgiving" page to reimburse his costs/fine!
I thought the same thing. I was just distracted by the fact that a 6 year old knows the F word. Of course, that can only come from his parent(s).I'd be mortified if my children spoke like that.
The 23 year old deserves a "justgiving" page to reimburse his costs/fine!
I got very familiar with the whole "feral youth" thing about 15 years ago (a rather wealthy married businessman bought the house next door to our old one and installed his very council (but very, very fit (she'd answer the door in schoolgirl outfits)) fancy piece in it, complete with 3 very very feral kids).
The approach I have with them is to never ever walk past a bus shelter or shop with a gang of kids outside; there's a very fair chance you will get verbal abuse (this is almost universal, no matter where you are) and there is nothing you can do; they know you can't do anything, they'll be filming it on their mobiles. Just avoid the situation. Cross the road etc.
When we bought a new house (actually an old house) I was very careful - semi-rural, no off-licence, no shops, no bus stop - basically nothing kids would want to congregate near. I would never want to live near what estate agents call "local amenities".
The approach I have with them is to never ever walk past a bus shelter or shop with a gang of kids outside; there's a very fair chance you will get verbal abuse (this is almost universal, no matter where you are) and there is nothing you can do; they know you can't do anything, they'll be filming it on their mobiles. Just avoid the situation. Cross the road etc.
When we bought a new house (actually an old house) I was very careful - semi-rural, no off-licence, no shops, no bus stop - basically nothing kids would want to congregate near. I would never want to live near what estate agents call "local amenities".
Not a fighting person by any means, I did do some martial arts lessons some years ago. The self defense section was very useful, how to defned yourself, and improvised 'weapons'. Fast forward some years, when the well known local high street drunk/yob knocked my 5yr old niece flying. The resulting drunken ranting abuse, including him pushing me, and trying to throw a few (feeble) punches, ended when a tightly rolled up copy of Autosport became my improvised weapon of defense. Suffice it to say he removed himself from my vicinity pretty sharply, and scuttled off nursing a few wounds in awkward places.
Digby said:
Soov535 said:
That's lifebuoy.
Is there a Justgiving page yet? We could probably raise a couple of grand for the bloke.
279 said:
I am just reflecting on something that happened yesterday.
Walking back from the shops at about 9pm with mother, brother and 4 month old jack Russell 'Snoop'. We pass a crowd of 10+ 14-15 year olds, both boys and girls loitering outside a shop.
Girls start screaming at the dog he goes by, dog gets spooked, we tell them to be quiet, one boy then decides to stamp down on the pavement no more than two inches away from my pup's head, a full on verble confrontation begins which then leads the boy punches me twice, attempts to throw a lotto sign at me and the girls have hit my mother (who was on release from hospital that day with serious neurological issues/fluid swelling on brain...) twice with a school bag on the head.
After my mother was hit I saw red but I had to use every iota of self restraint not to completely lose it despite us being attacked first because I am the adult of the situation, but It seemed wrong at I had to put my future and job ahead of protecting my family, regardless of age/gender of the offender.
For those who would "call the police" they were called but the response time was so patheic by the time blues and twos could be heard we were already at home and have no interest in speaking with them.
I was honestly wondering what other people would do in this sort of situation? Run? Stand your ground? Fight back?
That's awful..truly awful. I hope your mum is ok. Walking back from the shops at about 9pm with mother, brother and 4 month old jack Russell 'Snoop'. We pass a crowd of 10+ 14-15 year olds, both boys and girls loitering outside a shop.
Girls start screaming at the dog he goes by, dog gets spooked, we tell them to be quiet, one boy then decides to stamp down on the pavement no more than two inches away from my pup's head, a full on verble confrontation begins which then leads the boy punches me twice, attempts to throw a lotto sign at me and the girls have hit my mother (who was on release from hospital that day with serious neurological issues/fluid swelling on brain...) twice with a school bag on the head.
After my mother was hit I saw red but I had to use every iota of self restraint not to completely lose it despite us being attacked first because I am the adult of the situation, but It seemed wrong at I had to put my future and job ahead of protecting my family, regardless of age/gender of the offender.
For those who would "call the police" they were called but the response time was so patheic by the time blues and twos could be heard we were already at home and have no interest in speaking with them.
I was honestly wondering what other people would do in this sort of situation? Run? Stand your ground? Fight back?
Edited by 279 on Tuesday 7th July 13:51
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