Feral youth - What are you supposed to do?
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Go home, plan, then go back stay at a distance until they leave, follow one and attack, cable tie legs and arms together and put a bag over their head, get a chainsaw but take the chain off the bar, let them feel the bar on the side of their face before you start it up, then press it up against their neck, watch them piss/s
t themselves.
Either that or duct tape them to the nearest lamppost with a sign around their neck.
t themselves. Either that or duct tape them to the nearest lamppost with a sign around their neck.
MajorProblem said:
Go home, plan, then go back stay at a distance until they leave, follow one and attack, cable tie legs and arms together and put a bag over their head, get a chainsaw but take the chain off the bar, let them feel the bar on the side of their face before you start it up, then press it up against their neck, watch them piss/st themselves.
Have you considered anger management instead? t themselves. supertouring said:
MajorProblem said:
Go home, plan, then go back stay at a distance until they leave, follow one and attack, cable tie legs and arms together and put a bag over their head, get a chainsaw but take the chain off the bar, let them feel the bar on the side of their face before you start it up, then press it up against their neck, watch them piss/st themselves.
Have you considered anger management instead? t themselves. 
Thankyou4calling said:
If they are typical 14/15 year olds I would've pushed them, pushed them hard maybe against a fence or wall.
I'm a big bloke, powerful and a shove would be enough to scare them witless.
No way would a kid get the better of me like that, I just wouldn't have it.
That's actually how it all came to an end. The gobby boy tried throwing another punch at me which got deflected and hit my mum on the the arm*, the next thing I remember was dragging him towards the bonnet of a freelander in the road that had stopped. It was only when I processed 'oh, that's a freelander' did I go back to semi coherent thought and process that I was about to chuck a lad onto someone's bonnet and possibly up and over into the road - Not cool. I had also clocked that he wasn't fighting back at this point and was totally limp (or not strong enough to put up any resistance) and I again thought he was just a kid and proceeding any further was going to take me down a path I don't want to travel, so I let go and went back to check on mum.I'm a big bloke, powerful and a shove would be enough to scare them witless.
No way would a kid get the better of me like that, I just wouldn't have it.
He was gone within 2 minutes after that. In hindsight I should have done it the moment he squared up to me, but like I've said, I didn't want to lay a fingers on him in any circumstances if it could have been helped.
!*Going over that my sick mum was hit three times and I didn't lash out really makes me feel like a lot less of a man.
. Mum says I did the right thing, but my inner caveman ain't so sure.Edited by 279 on Tuesday 7th July 17:39
why is it that we all feel the same towards these gangs of kids, yet the people who we elect to run the country on our behalf see things differently?
Personally I think the OP should have been well within his rights to give them a kicking and feel safe that he was perfectly within the law.
Personally I think the OP should have been well within his rights to give them a kicking and feel safe that he was perfectly within the law.
Aldos Army said:
why is it that we all feel the same towards these gangs of kids, yet the people who we elect to run the country on our behalf see things differently?
Personally I think the OP should have been well within his rights to give them a kicking and feel safe that he was perfectly within the law.
Because they listen to the people who excuse this behaviour for whatever the reason they feel. Broken home, lack of facilities for young people, poverty as they have an Iphone 4 instead of 6, you name it.Personally I think the OP should have been well within his rights to give them a kicking and feel safe that he was perfectly within the law.
At the age described they are not kids but young thugs, who will only learn when someone bigger hits them. If you were a shaven headed tattooed man would they have done the same, not a chance.
supertouring said:
MajorProblem said:
Go home, plan, then go back stay at a distance until they leave, follow one and attack, cable tie legs and arms together and put a bag over their head, get a chainsaw but take the chain off the bar, let them feel the bar on the side of their face before you start it up, then press it up against their neck, watch them piss/st themselves.
Have you considered anger management instead? t themselves. This is why I don't go out on foot after 8pm... this type of "kid" are s pure and simple unfortunately physical retaliation is illegal and "my little Tommy" will be the innocent party when the handcuffs come out after the battering.
I have been "mugged" by a 13 year old at (Stanley) knife point in Gravesend... fortunately he was stoned and built like an anorexic broom handle which is why I was able to spin him round and tip him head first into some unfortunate residents front garden pond.
I still feel guilty today... those poor carp must have been terrified
s pure and simple unfortunately physical retaliation is illegal and "my little Tommy" will be the innocent party when the handcuffs come out after the battering.I have been "mugged" by a 13 year old at (Stanley) knife point in Gravesend... fortunately he was stoned and built like an anorexic broom handle which is why I was able to spin him round and tip him head first into some unfortunate residents front garden pond.
I still feel guilty today... those poor carp must have been terrified
279 said:
That's actually how it all came to an end. The gobby boy tried throwing another punch at me which got deflected and hit my mum on the the arm*, the next thing I remember was dragging him towards the bonnet of a freelander in the road that had stopped. It was only when I processed 'oh, that's a freelander' did I go back to semi coherent thought and process that I was about to chuck a lad onto someone's bonnet and possibly up and over into the road - Not cool. I had also clocked that he wasn't fighting back at this point and was totally limp (or not strong enough to put up any resistance) and I again thought he was just a kid and proceeding any further was going to take me down a path I don't want to travel, so I let go and went back to check on mum.
He was gone within 2 minutes after that. In hindsight I should have done it the moment he squared up to me, but like I've said, I didn't want to lay a fingers on him in any circumstances if it could have been helped.
!*Going over that my sick mum was hit three times and I didn't lash out really makes me feel like a lot less of a man.. Mum says I did the right thing, but my inner caveman ain't so sure.
After the event we all become pumped up and think shoulda done this shoulda done that.He was gone within 2 minutes after that. In hindsight I should have done it the moment he squared up to me, but like I've said, I didn't want to lay a fingers on him in any circumstances if it could have been helped.
!*Going over that my sick mum was hit three times and I didn't lash out really makes me feel like a lot less of a man.
. Mum says I did the right thing, but my inner caveman ain't so sure.Edited by 279 on Tuesday 7th July 17:39
Of course some 15 year olds are pretty grown up but as I said my tactic would be to shove them hard against ideally a low fence or wall and when I say shove I mean it.
If you push a kid even with 60% of your force in the chest with both hands at close quarters you'll send them flying and they won't be getting up quick, there mates will scarper and if they don't, do it to another.
It's easy to say after the event but a full grown man will have some serious shove and that won't get you in trouble either.
When the yob is lying on the pavement you can either walk away or stand over and tell him if he even thinks about doing that again you'll put him down so he can't get up in a hurry and yes I am powerfully built ;-)
Thankyou4calling said:
After the event we all become pumped up and think shoulda done this shoulda done that.
Of course some 15 year olds are pretty grown up but as I said my tactic would be to shove them hard against ideally a low fence or wall and when I say shove I mean it.
If you push a kid even with 60% of your force in the chest with both hands at close quarters you'll send them flying and they won't be getting up quick, there mates will scarper and if they don't, do it to another.
It's easy to say after the event but a full grown man will have some serious shove and that won't get you in trouble either.
When the yob is lying on the pavement you can either walk away or stand over and tell him if he even thinks about doing that again you'll put him down so he can't get up in a hurry and yes I am powerfully built ;-)
You're right about the ease at which you could knock someone over if you put your weight behind you but that is still assault if you meant that kind of getting into trouble.Of course some 15 year olds are pretty grown up but as I said my tactic would be to shove them hard against ideally a low fence or wall and when I say shove I mean it.
If you push a kid even with 60% of your force in the chest with both hands at close quarters you'll send them flying and they won't be getting up quick, there mates will scarper and if they don't, do it to another.
It's easy to say after the event but a full grown man will have some serious shove and that won't get you in trouble either.
When the yob is lying on the pavement you can either walk away or stand over and tell him if he even thinks about doing that again you'll put him down so he can't get up in a hurry and yes I am powerfully built ;-)
Hoofy said:
You're right about the ease at which you could knock someone over if you put your weight behind you but that is still assault if you meant that kind of getting into trouble.
"They were rounding on me officer, one lunged at me and I had no alternative but to push him away and protect my family.My mother and brother felt threatened and they'll say the same"
You'd be fine with that. CPS would bin it.
Sorry to hear your story OP. Unfortunately, this has been going on for years.
When I was a kid I grew up on a pretty st council estate. One of the things I will never forget was witnessing a gang of lads, some of whom I attended school with at the time, beat a Police Officer nearly to death after he'd come to the park to disperse them for anti-social behaviour.
Also, this was brought home when I read about this http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/16/edm... My cousin lives just down the road and only a week before he'd confronted some teenage scrotes who'd verbally abused his wife.
You've got to be absolutely sure you're prepared to go all the way and live with the consequences as some of these scumbags really don't care either way.
When I was a kid I grew up on a pretty s
t council estate. One of the things I will never forget was witnessing a gang of lads, some of whom I attended school with at the time, beat a Police Officer nearly to death after he'd come to the park to disperse them for anti-social behaviour. Also, this was brought home when I read about this http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/16/edm... My cousin lives just down the road and only a week before he'd confronted some teenage scrotes who'd verbally abused his wife.
You've got to be absolutely sure you're prepared to go all the way and live with the consequences as some of these scumbags really don't care either way.
Edited by jogger1976 on Tuesday 7th July 19:56
You're quite right not to have beat the st out of them, they are after all only kids still, grabbing one by the throat and squeezing very hard for a short while whilst giving some animated verbal encouragement for them to all foxtrot Oscar very sharpish would have been my tactic in that situation.
t out of them, they are after all only kids still, grabbing one by the throat and squeezing very hard for a short while whilst giving some animated verbal encouragement for them to all foxtrot Oscar very sharpish would have been my tactic in that situation.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff