Giving up your seat

[ehonda]

budgie smuggler said:

The 'Can I have your seat? I feel faint' was the usual seat-stealing ruse employed by young ladies on my commute. Only for them to make a miraculous and immediate recovery the moment their arse touches the seat.

According to my first aid teachings the treatment for feeling faint is to lay down and raise your legs, you could fall of a chair and bash your head. That should sort out the pretenders.

[Zippee]

Sat on my train a couple of weeks ago, lots of free seats and saw a pregnant woman chatting to some colleagues on the platform, train not due to leave for a further 10 mins. Carriage fills up and about a minute before departure, on she waddles and proceeds to ask for someone to give up a seat for her. Ordinarily no problem but why wait till the last minute - loads of seats a few minutes earlier thus giving everyone a fair chance of bagging a seat.

[JohnSW20]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

End of the northern Line.

Its the Northern Line which I take as going north not the Southern Line going south ;-)

[theboss]

_rubinho_ said:

BrettMRC said:

My commute is about two and half hours

Forget the seats on the train, I think this is your problem right here.

Edit: Oh and this:

BrettMRC said:

I pay best part of £7k for my ticket

Edited by _rubinho_ on Friday 24th July 10:00

Exactly. The cheapskate should be paying £11k for first class

Edited by theboss on Friday 24th July 13:59

[Muzzer79]

I'd give up my £7k seat for

A clearly frail elderly person (male/female)
A pregnant woman
Someone who is injured/disabled and struggling for mobility.

Everyone else can Foxtrot Oscar.

There was a chap with crutches on the train the other day and no fecker gave their seat up (I was standing aswell as him) Poor sod had to stand in the vestabule for an hour.

[R8VXF]

Muzzer79 said:

I'd give up my £7k seat for

A clearly frail elderly person (male/female)
A pregnant woman
Someone who is injured/disabled and struggling for mobility.

Everyone else can Foxtrot Oscar.

There was a chap with crutches on the train the other day and no fecker gave their seat up (I was standing aswell as him) Poor sod had to stand in the vestabule for an hour.

I have told people in the priority seats to give up their seats in this sort of situation before now

[Landlord]

Women traded their right to chivalry for emancipation

Muzzer79 said:

There was a chap with crutches on the train the other day and no fecker gave their seat up (I was standing aswell as him) Poor sod had to stand in the vestabule for an hour.

There's a guy that occasionally gets on my tube train with a walking stick... only, it's one of those ones you buy to go rambling not a medical one. He walks fine too. Doesn't stop people giving up their seat though, of which he happily avails himself. My glares are getting more and more obvious and his avoidance of eye contact more conspicuous.

[steveatesh]

Like others on here I would give up a seat for an infirm person (male or female) or a pregnant woman. Wouldn't even consider giving it up for a woman who did not fit that criteria.

Some of them have a massive sense of entitlement.

I keep quoting this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Manipulated-Man-Esther...

page 15 of the "Look Inside" feature describes similar everyday situations (men coming to women aid) perfectly.

[blindswelledrat]

Landlord said:

Women traded their right to chivalry for emancipation

Muzzer79 said:

There was a chap with crutches on the train the other day and no fecker gave their seat up (I was standing aswell as him) Poor sod had to stand in the vestabule for an hour.

There's a guy that occasionally gets on my tube train with a walking stick... only, it's one of those ones you buy to go rambling not a medical one. He walks fine too. Doesn't stop people giving up their seat though, of which he happily avails himself. My glares are getting more and more obvious and his avoidance of eye contact more conspicuous.

Local social media suggest you gave up several seats and tables recently!
Sorry to hear that, I feel very angry for you.

[mudflaps]

OP: You haven't answered the question of who is making the comments and what it is they are actually saying.

If you arrived early then there's the obvious reply.

"I arrived 20 minutes early in order to get this seat, perhaps if you had arrived 20 minutes early as well you would also have got a seat. Your strategy for tomorrow should now be obvious".

[IvanSTi]

_rubinho_ said:

BrettMRC said:

My commute is about two and half hours

Forget the seats on the train, I think this is your problem right here.

Edit: Oh and this:

BrettMRC said:

I pay best part of £7k for my ticket

I'm with you, 2 and a half hours each way? I thought you meant in total until I got to the end of the post. I thought mine was bad enough at an hour each way.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

JohnSW20 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

End of the northern Line.

Its the Northern Line which I take as going north not the Southern Line going south ;-)

Officially (within TFL) tube lines run North to South and West to East. So Morden is the end of the line, as are Upminster and Epping. Apparently.

And a Northerly wind starts in the North and blows south. I think.

[DonkeyApple]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Surprised to hear that. I travel on the tube, and live near the end of the line, so always get a seat in the morning. Train is packed within a few stops. I find that women and anyone under about 75 doesn't expect to be given a seat. Never had snide comments. I give up my seat for anyone who looks late 70s+, pregnant women and anyone who clearly needs it (leg in plaster, crutches etc.)

The rest can stand.

Yup. But I think the Tube is different as it generally doesn't fill up with foreign village simpletons until you get to the main land rail termini.

[budgie smuggler]

Crossflow Kid said:

budgie smuggler said:

The 'Can I have your seat? I feel faint' was the usual seat-stealing ruse employed by young ladies on my commute. Only for them to make a miraculous and immediate recovery the moment their arse touches the seat.

Isn't that kinda the whole point though?

The whole point is to make it so you look like a right if you say no.

Edited by budgie smuggler on Saturday 25th July 11:30

[Vacumatic]

I gave up my seat on an airport bus in Atlanta to an elderley black woman, she didnt think it was possible to say thank you. and everyone else on the bus turned around and glowered at me.

I would do the same again in a heartbeat, its the right thing to do.

Its not about equality, its about giving something that you have to others that need it more than you.

[Andy_mr2sc]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf39LL3RjKg

[Andy_mr2sc]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf39LL3RjKg

[MarshPhantom]

Dr Interceptor said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

BrettMRC said:

This week I've experimented with only relinquishing my seat to the genuinely needy, and the level of snide comments has been unreal!

Surprised to hear that. I travel on the tube, and live near the end of the line, so always get a seat in the morning. Train is packed within a few stops. I find that women and anyone under about 75 doesn't expect to be given a seat. Never had snide comments. I give up my seat for anyone who looks late 70s+, pregnant women and anyone who clearly needs it (leg in plaster, crutches etc.)

The rest can stand.

I think the tube is slightly different though - it's widely accepted that you'll be standing, and getting a seat is a bonus.

Commuter overground trains are full of powerfully built women in suits who think the whole world deserves them an ass licking. In my humble experience anyway.

Not something I've experienced, used overground from South East London for years. There are so many people standing anyway, who should you give your seat to?

[topless360]

A lot of the comments in this thread help me justify paying extra to commute by car

[MarshPhantom]

My other half has just got a new job in Stratford after working in Central London for nearly 20 years, and now gets the HS1 from Ebsfleet. 15 mins drive to the station, train every 10 mins, 10 minute journey time and always gets a seat.