What is going on in these photographs?

What is going on in these photographs?

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Echo66

384 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Fas1975 said:
Echo66 said:
The method via the NHS & most acupuncturists I know or have used does not involve cutting the skin at all. Never heard of that in the 8 years i've used acu & its certainly not used in NHS. Maybe the above method is Islam specific.
Where do you see cut skin?
In Soads posted description above it mentions 'small incisions' made in the skin.



SHutchinson

2,040 posts

184 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Fas1975 said:
Echo66 said:
The method via the NHS & most acupuncturists I know or have used does not involve cutting the skin at all. Never heard of that in the 8 years i've used acu & its certainly not used in NHS. Maybe the above method is Islam specific.
Where do you see cut skin?
In the pictures. And also, in the description of the process where it mentions making small incisions.

sc0tt

18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Mid sandwich ...

Billsnemesis

817 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Neil H said:
"the neutrality of this article is disputed"

Really?

so called

9,090 posts

209 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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RB Will said:
When are people going to quit with mental alternative therapies?

"available scientific evidence does not support claims that cupping has any health benefits"

so file it along with acupuncture and homeopathy.
arguebangheadsleep

8Ace

2,682 posts

198 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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SHutchinson said:
How do the cups know they're just sucking the 'bad' blood out?
This. Load of bks.

soad

32,895 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Fas1975 said:
Where do you see cut skin?
In Finland a cut is made into the skin under the cup, so it fills with blood. Googled "kuppaus". yikes



Is 'cupping' a miracle cure or the silliest celebrity health fad ever?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2311418/...

jshell

11,006 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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RB Will said:
"available scientific evidence does not support claims that cupping has any health benefits"
Cupping works for me, as long as her other hand has a steady, even pace with a firm grip...

Ganglandboss

8,307 posts

203 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Tuvra said:

Can someone explain what is going on? It looks gruesome.....
They are grafting glass from his jaw onto his back.

soad

32,895 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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jshell said:
RB Will said:
"available scientific evidence does not support claims that cupping has any health benefits"
Cupping works for me, as long as her other hand has a steady, even pace with a firm grip...
laugh

Kiltie

7,504 posts

246 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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A while ago, I remember hearing something on the radio about a model or an actress who had turned up at a red carpet thing wearing a strapless dress and it was noted that there were marks from "cupping" on her back and shoulders.

At the time, I found this confused.

To me, "cupping" meant taking a polystyrene drinks cup, smearing a light covering of grease around the lip and surreptitiously sticking it on a colleagues hard hat.

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I work with Chinese people. They do all sorts of things to cure pain or illness which we Westerners find very odd. But they swear by it.

If they have muscular pain, they do what they call "rubbing". They pummel that part of the body until it's bruised really badly - apparently it hurts like hell, but they say it's necessary because it brings the "badness" to the surface. (This is out of the mouth of a University Graduate, so she's not dumb). The body looks horrific afterwards, like they've been in a car crash, but they say it'll heal the muscular problem far faster than any Western treatment.

I keep an open mind - I think we could learn from other cultures, just as they learn from ours. But what I find interesting is that they seem very keen to take advantage of our medicines, using them alongside their own cures.

Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

182 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Bloodletting is one of those treatments we need in 2015.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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nicanary said:
I keep an open mind - I think we could learn from other cultures, just as they learn from ours. But what I find interesting is that they seem very keen to take advantage of our medicines, using them alongside their own cures.
Funny, that. It's like someone who has faith healing and a vaccine - "look! Prayer cured me! Praise be to Jesus!" Or, maybe it was solely the vaccine and the mumbo jumbo chanting had nothing to do with it.


Another Tim Minchin quote: "If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out."

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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nicanary said:
The body looks horrific afterwards, like they've been in a car crash, but they say it'll heal the muscular problem far faster than any Western treatment.
Easy way to test that - does it?

If not, then it's bks.

Zoon

6,702 posts

121 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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What a load of st, bad blood is dealt with by your liver.
Do you know that a few hundred years ago doctors would drill a hole in your head to cure headaches?

Ridiculous practices done by ridiculous people.

ApOrbital

9,961 posts

118 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Well said zoon.

Yiliterate

3,786 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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Ganglandboss said:
Tuvra said:

Can someone explain what is going on? It looks gruesome.....
They are grafting glass from his jaw onto his back.
Okay, I'll give you that one - very good! hehe

mister_ee

347 posts

182 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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I'll just leave this Dara O'Briain quote here:-

"Chinese medicine, oh, Chinese medicine! "But there are billions of Chinese, Chinese medicine must be working." Here's the skinny on Chinese medicine. A hundred years ago the average life expectancy in China was 30. The life expectancy in China at the moment is 73. And it's not feckin' tiger penis that turned it around for the Chinese. Didn't do much for the tiger, if you don't mind me pointing out."

Condi

17,191 posts

171 months

Thursday 30th July 2015
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nicanary said:
I work with Chinese people. They do all sorts of things to cure pain or illness which we Westerners find very odd. But they swear by it.

If they have muscular pain, they do what they call "rubbing". They pummel that part of the body until it's bruised really badly - apparently it hurts like hell, but they say it's necessary because it brings the "badness" to the surface. (This is out of the mouth of a University Graduate, so she's not dumb). The body looks horrific afterwards, like they've been in a car crash, but they say it'll heal the muscular problem far faster than any Western treatment.

I keep an open mind - I think we could learn from other cultures, just as they learn from ours. But what I find interesting is that they seem very keen to take advantage of our medicines, using them alongside their own cures.
They also have a mindset that the rarer something is the more valuable it is. Most of the value of 'rare' things are in their healing properties, and it creates a self fulfilling prophecy whereby something gets rarer, and more valuable, and so more effort is put into capturing it, then there are less of them, and so it gets rarer, and more valuable etc etc until there is only 1 item left. Once that is killed there are simply no more.

Chinese medicine has a lot to answer for in our world. 250 years you could see the logic, now we know better.