The cult of Arbonne
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For the sake of parity, this friends-selling and facebook s
te seems to be an unfortunate by-product of a few of the mentals who think they're going to make a fortune from it.
My other half is an Avon rep. Started a couple of months ago and we've made a pact that the first time she posts anything related to it on facebook, I'm allowed to shoot her in the face - her idea, not mine!
From first hand experience, the money is actually ok as a rep, if you're willing to do some donkey work - 20% of whatever people buy (note - people buy, she doesn't "sell"!). She covers 189 houses and I've just got her included on the staff discounts scheme at work where she gives 10% off whatever staff buy by taking it off her commission. So far in about two months, she's got enough for a weekend away and a nice meal out for our anniversary last weekend.
Those who bombard everyone are a pain in the arse and those who thjnk/say they are going to make a fortune are deluded. But for a mum with a young kiddie, it can be a very good way of earning enough for a couple of nights out a month.
te seems to be an unfortunate by-product of a few of the mentals who think they're going to make a fortune from it.My other half is an Avon rep. Started a couple of months ago and we've made a pact that the first time she posts anything related to it on facebook, I'm allowed to shoot her in the face - her idea, not mine!
From first hand experience, the money is actually ok as a rep, if you're willing to do some donkey work - 20% of whatever people buy (note - people buy, she doesn't "sell"!). She covers 189 houses and I've just got her included on the staff discounts scheme at work where she gives 10% off whatever staff buy by taking it off her commission. So far in about two months, she's got enough for a weekend away and a nice meal out for our anniversary last weekend.
Those who bombard everyone are a pain in the arse and those who thjnk/say they are going to make a fortune are deluded. But for a mum with a young kiddie, it can be a very good way of earning enough for a couple of nights out a month.
Edited by Jonboy_t on Tuesday 25th August 10:31
Herbalife
Juice Plus
Arbonne
Live Life with Minerals
Goobets
ACN
Utility Warehouse
Clear Business Water
Currency Surfing
I've been approached by them all, probably more that I can't remember. All of them promising 'no selling', 'residual income', 'part time hours' bla bla bla. What people miss is that in one sense they're the same as any business, it needs proper full time attention to make decent money. And to do anything worthwhile you need to get the override off the backs of the team you recruit. I've never seen anything that's excited me enough to take my eye off what I'm currently doing.
Part time effort results in part time money, which is fine if that's all you want but so many fall for the BS that's why you have so many dropping out. And remember the type of people they're aiming at when the big draw is a basic spec white 3 series (which you'd pay for several times over in commission before you get near it).
I know one guy who earns about £60k from UW but it's taken him 9 years to get there. He laughingly calls himself a business coach as well.
Juice Plus
Arbonne
Live Life with Minerals
Goobets
ACN
Utility Warehouse
Clear Business Water
Currency Surfing
I've been approached by them all, probably more that I can't remember. All of them promising 'no selling', 'residual income', 'part time hours' bla bla bla. What people miss is that in one sense they're the same as any business, it needs proper full time attention to make decent money. And to do anything worthwhile you need to get the override off the backs of the team you recruit. I've never seen anything that's excited me enough to take my eye off what I'm currently doing.
Part time effort results in part time money, which is fine if that's all you want but so many fall for the BS that's why you have so many dropping out. And remember the type of people they're aiming at when the big draw is a basic spec white 3 series (which you'd pay for several times over in commission before you get near it).
I know one guy who earns about £60k from UW but it's taken him 9 years to get there. He laughingly calls himself a business coach as well.
I've stumbled across this thread looking for answers. My wife is involved in arbonne and I can honestly say it's the best thing ever to happen to us......no hang on that's a lie. It's god awful.
Let's start on the White merc, or as I call it the Jewish princess wagon.....this is a major carrot in the continuation of arbonne. Facts are its a lease car that you have to lease yourself and they contribute to !, they also can take away the contribution if sales slow.
Probably a back handed from merc finance to arbonne for signing people.
Point 2
By their own stats, 90 percent of people don't make regular money from selling.
less than 1 percent of the consultant base makes ok money.....
The products are expensive, a stick of deodorant is a tenner....
You pay for samples, pens, catalogues, everything ....
It costs in sample bag use let's say quid per customer so you are relying on a 200 quid spend to make that back...
Why are we doing it, well nearly at year 3 and I've got no idea, wife has had her friends pull her in. It's just odd...are we making money ...do I need to answer that....no we are not
Let's start on the White merc, or as I call it the Jewish princess wagon.....this is a major carrot in the continuation of arbonne. Facts are its a lease car that you have to lease yourself and they contribute to !, they also can take away the contribution if sales slow.
Probably a back handed from merc finance to arbonne for signing people.
Point 2
By their own stats, 90 percent of people don't make regular money from selling.
less than 1 percent of the consultant base makes ok money.....
The products are expensive, a stick of deodorant is a tenner....
You pay for samples, pens, catalogues, everything ....
It costs in sample bag use let's say quid per customer so you are relying on a 200 quid spend to make that back...
Why are we doing it, well nearly at year 3 and I've got no idea, wife has had her friends pull her in. It's just odd...are we making money ...do I need to answer that....no we are not
It's made the UK now then has it....
Many years ago in the early Noughties I sat next to the then CEO on an internal flight in the US... she spent the whole flight grilling me about cosmetics in the UK (it was a very one-sided conversation) before handing me bunches of samples and her business cards to pass out to every female friend or relative that I had.
Needless to say the samples mostly went unused and the business card was relegated to the back of my rolodex.
Even at the time it struck me as a pyramid scheme and a quick Google reveals that they were, in fact, investigated for exactly that in 2011
Many years ago in the early Noughties I sat next to the then CEO on an internal flight in the US... she spent the whole flight grilling me about cosmetics in the UK (it was a very one-sided conversation) before handing me bunches of samples and her business cards to pass out to every female friend or relative that I had.
Needless to say the samples mostly went unused and the business card was relegated to the back of my rolodex.
Even at the time it struck me as a pyramid scheme and a quick Google reveals that they were, in fact, investigated for exactly that in 2011
It drives me mad listening the rubbish I have to listen about it’s miracle weight loosing detox products and the bks how much money people claim to be earning. Had a minor tiff tonight with the missus when I said bks to the fact ‘Laura’ was earning £13k a month driving around Rutland selling fking moisturiser and energy drinks. When you mention she rents a flat you’re met with the saving for a deposit etc. It’s a joke frankly - the lies the company and its workers present are insulting to the intelligence (depressingly shows how little it takes to brainwash people and how lots of others just believe what they are told)
ks how much money people claim to be earning. Had a minor tiff tonight with the missus when I said bks to the fact ‘Laura’ was earning £13k a month driving around Rutland selling fking moisturiser and energy drinks. When you mention she rents a flat you’re met with the saving for a deposit etc. It’s a joke frankly - the lies the company and its workers present are insulting to the intelligence (depressingly shows how little it takes to brainwash people and how lots of others just believe what they are told)Tropic is another.
A mildly interesting backstory with the founder an ex BBC The Apprentice candidate that was backed by Lord Sugar.........
http://www.tropicskincare.com/our-story
A mildly interesting backstory with the founder an ex BBC The Apprentice candidate that was backed by Lord Sugar.........
http://www.tropicskincare.com/our-story
Some Gump said:
So, with the advent of amazon, social networking, mums groups etc the role of the avon lady seems to be on a sticky wicket. However, in it's place is Arbonne, the cosmetic products that seemingly do miracles (at a price, of course).
Technology has made the Avon lady obsolete... but there's still plenty of the same type of pyramid selling scams out there that have kept up with the times. Nutri-whatever and opti-slim, various health food fads which are just selling arse-tasting powdered shakes, currency and bitcoin schemes not to mention the age old make-up and motivational speaker scams that have been going around since Parkinson was a lad.And access to vast quantities of information on the internet hasn't helped much. We're not seeing a reduction on the number of idiots and suckers in society (in fact, its optimistic to say there's only one born every minute these days). David "Avocado" Wolfe has made an industry out of selling people Cultured Snake Oil and Activated Almonds at more than the price of gold per gram.
Facebook has been a huge boon to them, not just because they can line up plenty of new suckers to do the selling, but they can track it and silence criticism (Facebook is expressly designed to create echo chambers). As soon as someone starts trying to sell something on any kind of social media, I block them, if they get past that, instant unfriending. Not sure if that advice can help if the other half gets suckered in, that's kinda your problem.
My wifes friend, (mentioned earlier in the thread) was "earning" 10k a month on forever living.
She had an Audi convertible on lease, once she stopped signing people up and couldn't find any more mugs they dropped her like a stone.
She is now working in an office again. (Hate to say I told her so)
She had an Audi convertible on lease, once she stopped signing people up and couldn't find any more mugs they dropped her like a stone.
She is now working in an office again. (Hate to say I told her so)
My Mrs has a friend on the Arbonne mouse wheel. We seem to be developing a collection of Arbonne products...at some expense.
The friend is now all over facebook talking about detoxing, and this and that, doing video blogs and the like. She spouts a load of old crap, and it's really unlike her. She definitely believes what she's saying though.
The friend is now all over facebook talking about detoxing, and this and that, doing video blogs and the like. She spouts a load of old crap, and it's really unlike her. She definitely believes what she's saying though.
My wife's "friend" is massively into the Arbonne culture at the moment and it's becoming tiring to be honest. We've both blocked her on FB and Instagram.
She's now a "regional manager" or some such bks and is no doubt convinced she'll be handed the keys to a white Merc in the not too distant future. In the meantime though, she'll have lost all her friends and probably driven her husband to drink.
We call them the happy clappy gang, because they all very much seem like Stepford Wives who are permanently smiling at you.
It's all absolute bullst.
My wife's very much into her fitness and knows her stuff when it comes to supplements, protein etc and has felt compelled to call out Arbonne girl on numerous occasions over some of the utter tripe she spouts on social media about how natural their products are.
She's now a "regional manager" or some such b
ks and is no doubt convinced she'll be handed the keys to a white Merc in the not too distant future. In the meantime though, she'll have lost all her friends and probably driven her husband to drink.We call them the happy clappy gang, because they all very much seem like Stepford Wives who are permanently smiling at you.
It's all absolute bulls
t.My wife's very much into her fitness and knows her stuff when it comes to supplements, protein etc and has felt compelled to call out Arbonne girl on numerous occasions over some of the utter tripe she spouts on social media about how natural their products are.
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