If Surrey was Syria

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Petrus1983

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8,719 posts

162 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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http://youtu.be/IpBGfmIMfr0

Brings home in a kinda crude way what they're facing. I know for sure if I was living there I'd do anything to get out so we can't be overly surprised by the massive migration issues. Unlike many I wish we could do more to help them rather than watch people smuggling bds make millions from their plight.

audikentman

632 posts

242 months

Saturday 29th August 2015
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It forgot to mention, barrel bombs, poison gas, beheadings, people being imprissioned, etc.

The world needs to wake up and help these people.

Rostfritt

3,098 posts

151 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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audikentman said:
It forgot to mention, barrel bombs, poison gas, beheadings, people being imprissioned, etc.

The world needs to wake up and help these people.
I know, it scares me the level of indifference people have to what is going on over there and in other war zones. All you seem to hear people go on about is how their holiday in Kos was totally ruined by asylum seekers or how a measly amount of their taxes have been spent on housing some family in a Travelodge in Kent for a few nights.

4 million have managed to get out of there and I am quite surprised move haven't. A friend of mine visited about a year before it all started and can't believe how quickly the place has collapsed.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Rostfritt said:
audikentman said:
It forgot to mention, barrel bombs, poison gas, beheadings, people being imprissioned, etc.

The world needs to wake up and help these people.
I know, it scares me the level of indifference people have to what is going on over there and in other war zones. All you seem to hear people go on about is how their holiday in Kos was totally ruined by asylum seekers or how a measly amount of their taxes have been spent on housing some family in a Travelodge in Kent for a few nights.

4 million have managed to get out of there and I am quite surprised move haven't. A friend of mine visited about a year before it all started and can't believe how quickly the place has collapsed.
yes

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smithyithy

7,246 posts

118 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Makes me laugh (in a sad way), the same people saying we need to bomb ISIS and destroy them etc. are also complaining about these 'bloody immigrants' trying to cross the borders - they honestly can't see the connection rolleyes

Can't imagine the hell that they're going through though, some of the stuff I've seen online I wish I could un-see.

What's happening in Syria (and many other countries / regions) isn't that far away from what the Nazis were doing, yet people seem much happier to just turn a blind eye nowadays.

smithyithy

7,246 posts

118 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Moominator said:
Who is the villain in Syria? The Christians and all minorities were safe under Assad. Now absolutely no one is safe.

As for Barrel bombs- the UK news loves to trot that one out as it has quite an evocative title/name. The sad truth is every side has alot of lethal weapons and lethal methods as with ANY war. How are all the sides still fighting- where are they all getting their bullets and fresh arms from? Wheres the supply chain?

John Kerry was literally foaming at the mouth when discussing Assad in a news conference a couple of years back. I imagine alot of US money and arms is helping keep the conflict stoked as the same with Russia's clandestine help too.

So once Assad is gone it'll all be peaceful. Like fk.

War is nasty but for once I just wish no western country had any sort of involvement at all. Then it'd stop.
ISIS took a lot of the arms and equipment left over in Iraq when the West left. They also get a st-tonne of funding from the Arab states (though they deny it).

The whole situation is a mess. I've watched quite a few docs over the past couple of years, just trying to keep in the loop of what's going on.

I know that a large proportion of ISIS are defectors from the FSA (Free Syrian Army) that were receiving weapons and funding from the West to help topple the Assad regime - a strategy that seems to have backfired.