Damn, I wish I could SLEEP!
Discussion
Vaud said:
Noise cancelling headphones (over ear) - e.g. Bose
Podcast or audio book - with a soporific reader. Audible is a good subscription for books.
Advil PM
Maybe a glass of wine
Breathing exercises
Above will catch me 5-6 hours on a 10 hour flight. Rubbish quality sleep but better than nothing. Advil PM leaves me less drowsy, but I would prefer not to drive afterwards.
This always works for me. A couple of drinks in the lounge and I am gone. Slept through a takeoff on a couple of occasions. However I don't do the drugs.Podcast or audio book - with a soporific reader. Audible is a good subscription for books.
Advil PM
Maybe a glass of wine
Breathing exercises
Above will catch me 5-6 hours on a 10 hour flight. Rubbish quality sleep but better than nothing. Advil PM leaves me less drowsy, but I would prefer not to drive afterwards.
One I would recommend that my dad got me into is read a book. When you can't switch off a book really helps, and will let you drift off quite happily. I used to average 3-4 hours a night now it is a solid 8 unless I have an early alarm set.
Has anyone mentioned their age?
I am 57 and still doing a tough physical Job (plasterer) thank god. My work load can vary now as I don't need to work full on.
It's when I am not working sleep comes hard. A small whiskey last thing helps but not to much booze as it wakes me back up after 2 or 3 hours.
I have always found that excercise or hard work helps with the mind and the knock on effect is good sleep.
Stress is a f
ker for a bad sleeping routine.
I am 57 and still doing a tough physical Job (plasterer) thank god. My work load can vary now as I don't need to work full on.
It's when I am not working sleep comes hard. A small whiskey last thing helps but not to much booze as it wakes me back up after 2 or 3 hours.
I have always found that excercise or hard work helps with the mind and the knock on effect is good sleep.
Stress is a f
ker for a bad sleeping routine.R8Steve said:
Tuvra said:
Another one here :wave:
Lots of st going on in my life right now so I find it very hard to shut down. Night Nurse helps when It gets really bad 
I'm not the best sleeper either, do you not feel night nurse makes you feel terrible the next day?Lots of s
t going on in my life right now so I find it very hard to shut down. Night Nurse helps when It gets really bad I tried some and was groggy and lethargic all day, never again.
I think I'll give it up and try some of the stuff mentioned here
On the topic of getting to sleep, or trying too, I've found remembering familiar route or path works. What I mean is I basically retrace my steps and I add detail/memories along the way.
My example is when I was on holiday in a place call "wells-next-sea", we stayed in a holiday cottage, where we walked out the door, turned left through the public car park, past a funny little cottage, then down a path into the children's play ground (I have a 3yr old) and remember the slides, pirate ship and then on to the walk to the sea, with tons of points to remember along the way.
It sounds silly/daft but I find for my busy brain focusing on this and (nightly) repeating this little "story" helps me to not concentrate on my day2day stuff and go with the flow for the route/path.
It felt weird the first few times but now it really helps me.
As for waking in the night and how to prevent that, sorry can't help I have a 3yr old!!!
Also the other obvious thing is not playing with your phone at bedtime, staring into that light is NOT going to help, I was terrible for reading the news, checking the weather, playing games, reading PH etc now I plug it in and put it on the floor on silent.
My example is when I was on holiday in a place call "wells-next-sea", we stayed in a holiday cottage, where we walked out the door, turned left through the public car park, past a funny little cottage, then down a path into the children's play ground (I have a 3yr old) and remember the slides, pirate ship and then on to the walk to the sea, with tons of points to remember along the way.
It sounds silly/daft but I find for my busy brain focusing on this and (nightly) repeating this little "story" helps me to not concentrate on my day2day stuff and go with the flow for the route/path.
It felt weird the first few times but now it really helps me.
As for waking in the night and how to prevent that, sorry can't help I have a 3yr old!!!
Also the other obvious thing is not playing with your phone at bedtime, staring into that light is NOT going to help, I was terrible for reading the news, checking the weather, playing games, reading PH etc now I plug it in and put it on the floor on silent.
Yes, trying to focus on something nice and simple, stopping your head running around ideas like crazy, seems to work. Sometimes.
Anyway, I finally got home to the Philippines yesterday lunchtime, had a two hour nap in the afternoon, then finally hit the sack about 7pm and slept solid for eleven hours. Woke up today feeling bright and breezy and bushy-tailed.
Even on the planes rides, with a few wines and beers to help, I could only nap for 20 minutes before waking, so I reckon I'd had about 10 hours sleep max over the last week.
Anyway, I finally got home to the Philippines yesterday lunchtime, had a two hour nap in the afternoon, then finally hit the sack about 7pm and slept solid for eleven hours. Woke up today feeling bright and breezy and bushy-tailed.
Even on the planes rides, with a few wines and beers to help, I could only nap for 20 minutes before waking, so I reckon I'd had about 10 hours sleep max over the last week.
For 9 months last year I was:
> Waking at 4am Sunday morning to fly to Oman
> Go to bed at 5am Monday morning (work 8 hours in the office and then 7 hours at night)
> Work 2pm-4pm and 9pm till 4am Monday-Wednesday
> Thursday take 08:30 flight back home (Dubai)
> Go to bed 10pm Thursday
Body clock was a little wonky.
> Waking at 4am Sunday morning to fly to Oman
> Go to bed at 5am Monday morning (work 8 hours in the office and then 7 hours at night)
> Work 2pm-4pm and 9pm till 4am Monday-Wednesday
> Thursday take 08:30 flight back home (Dubai)
> Go to bed 10pm Thursday
Body clock was a little wonky.
so called said:
I've just done England, Germany, USA and now India.
Used the Spa at the weekend but still can't get a good night's sleep.
Into my third week in India now and still struggling. 5 hours in the last two nights.Used the Spa at the weekend but still can't get a good night's sleep.
Currently sat up watching England San Marino......zzzzzzz
Edited by so called on Wednesday 9th September 08:06
King Herald said:
Yes, trying to focus on something nice and simple, stopping your head running around ideas like crazy, seems to work. Sometimes.
Anyway, I finally got home to the Philippines yesterday lunchtime, had a two hour nap in the afternoon, then finally hit the sack about 7pm and slept solid for eleven hours. Woke up today feeling bright and breezy and bushy-tailed.
Even on the planes rides, with a few wines and beers to help, I could only nap for 20 minutes before waking, so I reckon I'd had about 10 hours sleep max over the last week.
Maybe you're self employed in which case my post ends right here. If you travel so much and it's affecting you, can't you get the company to fly you business?Anyway, I finally got home to the Philippines yesterday lunchtime, had a two hour nap in the afternoon, then finally hit the sack about 7pm and slept solid for eleven hours. Woke up today feeling bright and breezy and bushy-tailed.
Even on the planes rides, with a few wines and beers to help, I could only nap for 20 minutes before waking, so I reckon I'd had about 10 hours sleep max over the last week.
NeMiSiS said:
Zoplicone 7.5mgs, two of these and you will sleep, standing up if you like.
You will wake after 10hrs or so feeling like you have a massive hangover but without the headache and a strange metalic taste in your mouth like you have been sucking a handfull of twopence pieces.
Two, wow okay. I am very careful about the dose these days as I tend to drink wine or beer on the plane and then take Zolpidem. About a third of a pill.You will wake after 10hrs or so feeling like you have a massive hangover but without the headache and a strange metalic taste in your mouth like you have been sucking a handfull of twopence pieces.
The reason that I now dose carefully is that I woke up at home once having flown back from America and I had no recollection of landing, customs, driving home or saying 'Hi' to my wife and children.
I gave up about sleeping during flights, I never managed more than some minutes in a row, I wake up very easily. Luckilly recently the most frequent flights for work are within Europe and so do not last more than 3.5 hrs (MXP-SVO).
I generally work on my laptop during the flights. When I travel for pleasure the 10+ hrs fligths are heavy but eating, drinking, some movies and some "walking" around make the time passing. I always choose a seat on the corridor. When stretching to business class isn't too expensive on a long flight the "environment" really looks sleeping friendly compared to economy but in the last trip FRA-JFK I looked the ceiling of the plane with eyes wide open for hours, but I certainly arrived a bit more rested.
I generally work on my laptop during the flights. When I travel for pleasure the 10+ hrs fligths are heavy but eating, drinking, some movies and some "walking" around make the time passing. I always choose a seat on the corridor. When stretching to business class isn't too expensive on a long flight the "environment" really looks sleeping friendly compared to economy but in the last trip FRA-JFK I looked the ceiling of the plane with eyes wide open for hours, but I certainly arrived a bit more rested.
matsoc said:
I gave up about sleeping during flights, I never managed more than some minutes in a row, I wake up very easily. Luckilly recently the most frequent flights for work are within Europe and so do not last more than 3.5 hrs (MXP-SVO).
I generally work on my laptop during the flights. When I travel for pleasure the 10+ hrs fligths are heavy but eating, drinking, some movies and some "walking" around make the time passing. I always choose a seat on the corridor. When stretching to business class isn't too expensive on a long flight the "environment" really looks sleeping friendly compared to economy but in the last trip FRA-JFK I looked the ceiling of the plane with eyes wide open for hours, but I certainly arrived a bit more rested.
I found Virgin Premium Economy, upstairs on a 747 a "nice" place to be as it is so much quieter... I generally work on my laptop during the flights. When I travel for pleasure the 10+ hrs fligths are heavy but eating, drinking, some movies and some "walking" around make the time passing. I always choose a seat on the corridor. When stretching to business class isn't too expensive on a long flight the "environment" really looks sleeping friendly compared to economy but in the last trip FRA-JFK I looked the ceiling of the plane with eyes wide open for hours, but I certainly arrived a bit more rested.
Vaud said:
I found Virgin Premium Economy, upstairs on a 747 a "nice" place to be as it is so much quieter...
I should give it a try, premium economy can be a good compromise. I do not use Virgin often even if it has a lot of routes towards US. The connecting flight to London from Turin are not always cheap and placed at a convenient timing while there is daily very early link to Frankfurt.I flew with Virgin just a couple of times recently, in economy, the last to Chicago from LHR if I well remember and I stayed in the lower deck.
hidetheelephants said:
Something dull like BBC Radio 1 with Nick Grimashaw on headphones usually gets me nodding off if I'm having trouble sleeping.
Fixed.HannsG said:
I have suffered from poor sleep for the past few years. This coincides with my 2 year lad arriving...
My wife saw it upon herself to put him in our bed from only a few months of age. The little guy has never left it.
And as a result I am always suffering from a flying elbow, kick, hug or generally being pushed off my bed.
It has got so bad we got rid of the King size and went with a Superking (which is one of the largest sizes in bed). Still does not help...
And wife is now 4 months pregnant so fk knows what we gonna do when second one arrives.
You're insane; put the rugrat in a cot or get yourself on the sofa.My wife saw it upon herself to put him in our bed from only a few months of age. The little guy has never left it.
And as a result I am always suffering from a flying elbow, kick, hug or generally being pushed off my bed.
It has got so bad we got rid of the King size and went with a Superking (which is one of the largest sizes in bed). Still does not help...
And wife is now 4 months pregnant so f
k knows what we gonna do when second one arrives. Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 1st September 19:06
Or
Have a five knuckle shuffle before trying to sleep
I've struggled with sleep for as long as I can remember - at 17-18 I was getting an average of 1.5hrs a night during the week and then sort of passing out for 7hrs on a Friday. It was definitely not good, eventually reached the stage where I felt like I was floating about half a metre above my own head as I was going through the day! Nytol and it's ilk always left me feeling severely groggy the next day, Melotonin helped and didn't seem to produce the grogginess.
These days I can get off to sleep reasonably well but can't seem to stay asleep - I often wake at 3-4am and can't get back off for love nor money
These days I can get off to sleep reasonably well but can't seem to stay asleep - I often wake at 3-4am and can't get back off for love nor money
My misses works night shifts 8pm - 8am 2 days a week then has to look after our one year old all day, she never naps or sleeps through the day, so she misses 2 nights sleep a week!!!! Doesn't seem to bother her, I worry about the health implications
I've got a Non Rem Sleep parasomnia disorder, saw a Neuroligist who recommended that there was no real cure and his professional advice was to look myself in a bedroom on my own all night, that I could not get out of!
I've got a Non Rem Sleep parasomnia disorder, saw a Neuroligist who recommended that there was no real cure and his professional advice was to look myself in a bedroom on my own all night, that I could not get out of!
rxtx said:
King Herald said:
Yes, trying to focus on something nice and simple, stopping your head running around ideas like crazy, seems to work. Sometimes.
Anyway, I finally got home to the Philippines yesterday lunchtime, had a two hour nap in the afternoon, then finally hit the sack about 7pm and slept solid for eleven hours. Woke up today feeling bright and breezy and bushy-tailed.
Even on the planes rides, with a few wines and beers to help, I could only nap for 20 minutes before waking, so I reckon I'd had about 10 hours sleep max over the last week.
Maybe you're self employed in which case my post ends right here. If you travel so much and it's affecting you, can't you get the company to fly you business?Anyway, I finally got home to the Philippines yesterday lunchtime, had a two hour nap in the afternoon, then finally hit the sack about 7pm and slept solid for eleven hours. Woke up today feeling bright and breezy and bushy-tailed.
Even on the planes rides, with a few wines and beers to help, I could only nap for 20 minutes before waking, so I reckon I'd had about 10 hours sleep max over the last week.
The only reason the last trip was so messed up was because I detoured through England for a few days, or I'd have been home in 48 hours. It still takes a week to get over the 12 hours time difference between home and work though on a normal rotation.
I've barely settled in at home, been here a week, and they've sent us flight details to go back to Mexico a week on Sunday....
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