Walking away.....better than dishing out a kicking?
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wildcat45 said:
Axionknight said:
No, go on, you bloody pussy, commit assault, all the cool kids are doing it.
Did you even have to come on here and ask?
It was a badly written post, but I explained that the Simon Weston thing reminded me of the incident. Did you even have to come on here and ask?
Just walking away, not even telling the guy to f
k off, calling him a or whatever. I was tring to make the point that walking away, silence isolation can have much more impact than the alternatives.I thought it might make an interesting conversation topic. That's all.
and then walking off was the way I would have played it, if he had taken offence at my discription of him and stuck one on me, I would have had justification to defend myself.Opinion is one thing.....however saying Squaddies should have been gassed or The abuse that guardian w
ker gave Simon Weston were deserving of the 'old fashioned' term keep your fking opinions to yourself or I'll shove them down your throat, are more in keeping with the above kind of 'Opinions'.9mm said:
The guy was an idiot AND entitled to his opinion. No justification for punching him. I think you did the right thing.
Absolutely.The day we start beating or killing those who hold a certain opinion is the day that the cause our soldiers have died for and continue to fight for becomes worthless.
All members of the armed forces are heroes (something the vast majority of the public accept) however they fight for the rights we hold dear in this country. To take the rights away of those who disrespect them, whilst understandably justified, is an irony that must never be allowed.
Impasse said:
Seems a waste of a pint.
I was out last night with my friend. We were in the same bar. I bought a pint each for us. A guest real ale which after one sip I decided wasn't for me. My mate said exactly this and took my beer off me while I ordered something else.
Looking back on the incident. I was furious but I'm not in the habit of pre-emptive random violence. Having read sine comments I too think it a bit odd that I contemplated it. Even for a second or two.
I think I was so angry because I'd been telling the guy about the Falklands. A place I love. I was describing the Argentine cemetery there and the names (Welsh) of some of the dead. Ordinary names like Gareth Williams or whatever. I was saying how despite the war you couldn't hate young guys with familiar names fighting a war as conscripts. I told him about my personal link with HMS Sheffield.
It was after that he said what he said.
Doesn't justify violence though.
Moominator said:
I wouldnt have walked out I would have challenged his view(s). Then moved. In no way would violence have even been thought or considered. People can say crazy stuff when tiddled.
If you cant consider this dont go near people on the drink..
Exactly, I'd love to hear how he jusitifed that opinion. Maybe you could have educated him but fair playIf you cant consider this dont go near people on the drink..
I cant understand people that are up for a fight just because of something "said", or a "gesture" (eg, sticking you finger up at someone). The only things that would cause me to open a can of whup-ass on someone would be defending myself or someone else from physical attack (or in some cases, defending property from attack).
Cycling along, i get people shouting "wker!" from cars the other side of the road, or making coffee-beans signs etc... it all washes over me. But if i smile and flip the bird back, then its all "slam on the brakes, get out the car, puff up the chest, ask if you want a fight" etc etc. Oh, get back in your car big guy, and fk off home where you can beat up your kids and wife to make yourself feel like a real man.
Cycling along, i get people shouting "w
ker!" from cars the other side of the road, or making coffee-beans signs etc... it all washes over me. But if i smile and flip the bird back, then its all "slam on the brakes, get out the car, puff up the chest, ask if you want a fight" etc etc. Oh, get back in your car big guy, and fk off home where you can beat up your kids and wife to make yourself feel like a real man.Some pompous, pious and self righteous remarks here. Again. 
OP clearly did the right thing.
While 'we' may not have resorted to violence, many would have and 'the meedja' would've lapped it up.
For that reason it's a post worth making, if only as a voice of the silent majority (or so it seems).
OP clearly did the right thing.
While 'we' may not have resorted to violence, many would have and 'the meedja' would've lapped it up.
For that reason it's a post worth making, if only as a voice of the silent majority (or so it seems).
wildcat45 said:
I was out last night with my friend. We were in the same bar. I bought a pint each for us. A guest real ale which after one sip I decided wasn't for me.
My mate said exactly this and took my beer off me while I ordered something else.
Looking back on the incident. I was furious but I'm not in the habit of pre-emptive random violence. Having read sine comments I too think it a bit odd that I contemplated it. Even for a second or two.
I think I was so angry because I'd been telling the guy about the Falklands. A place I love. I was describing the Argentine cemetery there and the names (Welsh) of some of the dead. Ordinary names like Gareth Williams or whatever. I was saying how despite the war you couldn't hate young guys with familiar names fighting a war as conscripts. I told him about my personal link with HMS Sheffield.
It was after that he said what he said.
Doesn't justify violence though.
You do know you can get tasters for guest beers? Saves you getting a pint you don't like. That wouldn't have been 'random' btw.My mate said exactly this and took my beer off me while I ordered something else.
Looking back on the incident. I was furious but I'm not in the habit of pre-emptive random violence. Having read sine comments I too think it a bit odd that I contemplated it. Even for a second or two.
I think I was so angry because I'd been telling the guy about the Falklands. A place I love. I was describing the Argentine cemetery there and the names (Welsh) of some of the dead. Ordinary names like Gareth Williams or whatever. I was saying how despite the war you couldn't hate young guys with familiar names fighting a war as conscripts. I told him about my personal link with HMS Sheffield.
It was after that he said what he said.
Doesn't justify violence though.
Sometimes not saying anything can be quite powerful, silence can speak volumes. If the bloke had anything about him (common decency, intelligence etc) he will have noted what happened. If he didn't then perhaps he was beyond education and whose problem is that?
A friend of mine was talking about the time he went to one of these chavvy car events, MaxPower style - loud stereos and body kits. There was some kid with the bonnet up proclaiming '2 leeeter Redtop, chipped n cammed init m8'. Someone went up and closed the bonnet, nothing more. Apparently it's the ultimate insult.
Someone came into my office the other week absolutely raging, threatening me with violence, to come back and 'sort me out' if I didn't do what he wanted. I just sat there bemused, watched him and said nothing. He ran out of things to say in less than 30 seconds and walked off, I could hear him shouting, screaming and kicking things on his way out. He's never been back.
It happens online too, people can't argue with themselves. If you don't reply, or simply say that you disagree or that you know better as you were there and they weren't then it's game over. Life's too short to be spending hours trying to prove your point to some gobby oaf on the internet. It is them who will remain uneducated.
There are various sayings about walking away and getting to live another day.
And so endeth Friday mornings sermon
227bhp said:
Someone came into my office the other week absolutely raging, threatening me with violence, to come back and 'sort me out' if I didn't do what he wanted. I just sat there bemused, watched him and said nothing. He ran out of things to say in less than 30 seconds and walked off, I could hear him shouting, screaming and kicking things on his way out. He's never been back.
The greatest example of a man using silence to reduce his opponent to tears: (NSFW/swearing)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Dmh-VqNTo
Off topic. The last three words of your OP, "power of silence", reminded me of a book I read recently called Quiet by Susan Cain (you can read the first few chapters on the Amazon link).
In essence it looks at introverts in a world becoming dominated by the extrovert ideal, but the power they can hold. Stuff that resonated with me was about the workplace where we work in open-plan offices because of some management bullst that people work better together etc, when in fact there is much research to show that the opposite is the case; we work better and can come up with ideas when we're on our own. It was a good read and I would recommend it to anyone with an interest in that kind of thing. Anyway, let me put my headphones back on to block out the noise in my open-plan office.
In essence it looks at introverts in a world becoming dominated by the extrovert ideal, but the power they can hold. Stuff that resonated with me was about the workplace where we work in open-plan offices because of some management bulls
t that people work better together etc, when in fact there is much research to show that the opposite is the case; we work better and can come up with ideas when we're on our own. It was a good read and I would recommend it to anyone with an interest in that kind of thing. Anyway, let me put my headphones back on to block out the noise in my open-plan office.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff