Segway Boards - confirmed illegal! Yay

[98elise]

R8VXF said:

Cotty said:

Bicycles don't have MOT's and people have no issue riding them on the road.

They are not powered And in the case of the eBikes, they have a secondary form of propulsion, e.g. pedals.

Why should the addition of pedals make an eBike anymore road worthy than say an airwheel?

I've quite a few airwheels being used in london and they look like a great way to get around between station and work. Far better than a bus or the tube.

Personally i think any small electric vehicle that travels at similar speeds to a normal bike should be legal for road use. Stick a seat, and a set of pedals on an airwheel and it would probably be legal.

[Phunk]

Jimboka said:

Phunk said:

I use mine as pub transport - perfect.

Managed to ride mine all the way home (5 miles) whilst smashed, didn't fall off or kill anyone either.

I expect most drunk drivers say that, kill someone on the next journey ..

True, i'll take my electric bicycle next time, i'm sure that will do less damage to someone then a tiny segway board

[Ari]

MKnight702 said:

The only trouble is that the easier we make it for the powers that be to ban things then the more likely it is that something you enjoy that someone else doesn't will be next. I hear that Muriel down the road with the Honda Jazz doesn't like "those noisy exhausts" or cars that can do more than 40mph and would quite like them banned next.

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Ben Franklin

Likewise, those that standby and let things that they don't like (or care about) get stopped can have little to say when something they like is next.

Which is all well and good, except absolutely nothing has been banned here.

All that's happened is the law has been clarified. It's exactly the same position as it is for 'normal' Segways.

It's a bit like someone launching a new type of road vehicle and people moaning that it is 'banned' from doing more than 70mph. It hasn't been 'banned', it has been clarified that existing legislation applies to it.

Unfortunately the PH Daily Mailists do love a good collective wail.

[Ari]

Phunk said:

Jimboka said:

Phunk said:

I use mine as pub transport - perfect.

Managed to ride mine all the way home (5 miles) whilst smashed, didn't fall off or kill anyone either.

I expect most drunk drivers say that, kill someone on the next journey ..

True, i'll take my electric bicycle next time, i'm sure that will do less damage to someone then a tiny segway board

You do understand that you're not allowed to ride your bike on the pavement don't you..?

[Quinny]

DragsterRR said:

Quinny said:

I use this to get around on.....

Battery powered, folds into the boot of the car, does about 8 miles on a charge

And is illegal to use on a public road or pavement.

That may be so, but I've been using it for 7 years, both here and in France & Spain without a single issue....

DVLA issued a V5 and a tax disc... There is no law that says a disability scooter has to have more than 2 wheels. I can restrict the speed to 4 mph when required

The scooter is a big help to me, so my philosophy is quite simple. Don't ride like a dick, respect other pedestrians, and don't give anyone a reason to be upset...

It's worked up to now..... Then again I am a 53 year old chap with obvious walking difficulties..... It would, and should be different for 15 year old kids terrorising old folk on the pavement.

Edited by Quinny on Tuesday 13th October 21:29

[DragsterRR]

Quinny said:

DragsterRR said:

Quinny said:

I use this to get around on.....

Battery powered, folds into the boot of the car, does about 8 miles on a charge

And is illegal to use on a public road or pavement.

That may be so, but I've been using it for 7 years, both here and in France & Spain without a single issue....

DVLA issued a V5 and a tax disc... There is no law that says a disability scooter has to have more than 2 wheels. I can restrict the speed to 4 mph when required

The scooter is a big help to me, so my philosophy is quite simple. Don't ride like a dick, respect other pedestrians, and don't give anyone a reason to be upset...

It's worked up to now..... Then again I am a 53 year old chap with obvious walking difficulties..... It would, and should be different for 15 year old kids terrorising old folk on the pavement.

Edited by Quinny on Tuesday 13th October 21:29

There is a law that says as a class 3 invalid carriage (one capable of over 4mph) amongst other things has ...

an efficient braking system
front and rear lights and reflectors
direction indicators able to operate as a hazard warning signal
an audible horn
a rear view mirror

[Quinny]

DragsterRR said:

There is a law that says as a class 3 invalid carriage (one capable of over 4mph) amongst other things has ...

an efficient braking system
front and rear lights and reflectors
direction indicators able to operate as a hazard warning signal
an audible horn
a rear view mirror

There is also a law that says you shouldn't do 31 mph in a 30 mph zone......but hey what can you do??

[DragsterRR]

Not saying don't ride it. Just saying it's not legit

[essdaytwelve]

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DragsterRR said:

Quinny said:

DragsterRR said:

Quinny said:

I use this to get around on.....

Battery powered, folds into the boot of the car, does about 8 miles on a charge

And is illegal to use on a public road or pavement.

That may be so, but I've been using it for 7 years, both here and in France & Spain without a single issue....

DVLA issued a V5 and a tax disc... There is no law that says a disability scooter has to have more than 2 wheels. I can restrict the speed to 4 mph when required

The scooter is a big help to me, so my philosophy is quite simple. Don't ride like a dick, respect other pedestrians, and don't give anyone a reason to be upset...

It's worked up to now..... Then again I am a 53 year old chap with obvious walking difficulties..... It would, and should be different for 15 year old kids terrorising old folk on the pavement.

Edited by Quinny on Tuesday 13th October 21:29

There is a law that says as a class 3 invalid carriage (one capable of over 4mph) amongst other things has ...

an efficient braking system
front and rear lights and reflectors
direction indicators able to operate as a hazard warning signal
an audible horn
a rear view mirror

Jesus

[wiggy001]

The issue for me is the enforcement of the law, not the law its self.

If the police are sensible and use their discretion correctly, only those breaking this law and acting like a twunt on the pavement will get their collar felt. Those technically breaking the law but not actually causing anyone any harm should be free to go about their business.

Same with cyclists on some pavements to be honest - if they're not impacting anyone else then leave them be.

Same with speeding and probably a whole host of other things that are technically illegal but often cause no harm or issue.

Unfortunately some police officers aren't very good at using common sense and discretion at the same time.

[Dog Star]

wiggy001 said:

Same with cyclists on some pavements to be honest - if they're not impacting anyone else then leave them be.

I've just got my first bicycle in 32 years, and fk riding it on the road: it's lethal. It's an MTB and I live in MTB heaven - I ride on the pavement when I need to get down the road and off it. Same riding back from the pub.

[wiggy001]

Dog Star said:

I've just got my first bicycle in 32 years, and fk riding it on the road: it's lethal. It's an MTB and I live in MTB heaven - I ride on the pavement when I need to get down the road and off it. Same riding back from the pub.

And I would do the same.

I think it was Clarkson that said we should replace all laws with 1 new law: don't be a twunt. For stuff like this I like that idea (in principle).

[DannyScene]

To everyone moaning about how illegal they are... do any of you remember the time the fun went from your life and you starting begrudging others for enjoying themselves?

[lostkiwi]

I seem to recall reading somewhere the law has changed regarding cycling on the pavement and its now legal under some circumstances.

[Europa1]

Hilarious letter in today's Metro from someone wailing about the authorities cracking down on this "cheap, compact, affordable, sjhort distance transport solution" that is "environmentally friendly". Someone came up with such a short distance transport solution millenia ago: it's called walking, you lazy tt.

[bimsb6]

lostkiwi said:

I seem to recall reading somewhere the law has changed regarding cycling on the pavement and its now legal under some circumstances.

Probably where the pavement is clearly defined as dual use with a clearly marked cycle path .

[lostkiwi]

bimsb6 said:

lostkiwi said:

I seem to recall reading somewhere the law has changed regarding cycling on the pavement and its now legal under some circumstances.

Probably where the pavement is clearly defined as dual use with a clearly marked cycle path .

Must be it - shared usage paths.