Ever feel like technology has passed you by?
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No, not really. I'm the same age and I'm well aware of the tech around me; that said, a lot of it is naff, for-the-sake-of-it kit that hasn't matured enough to spend money on. Do I need my thermostat to be an IoT device? God no, and while I'm at it, I'll keep my "manual" kettle that won't expose my gmail password to the world.
I love tech, and I'll adopt it if I see a purpose, but I often don't. I quite like being useful - you know, being able to DO things myself. But I'd love a DAB radio in the car...
I love tech, and I'll adopt it if I see a purpose, but I often don't. I quite like being useful - you know, being able to DO things myself. But I'd love a DAB radio in the car...
AClownsPocket said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I'm 39, I'm an IT Architect/Consultant yet I am more than happy if my device works - I used to want to know how it works and how I might improve it, but my Android phone works as does my Android tablet and gone are the days of Custom ROMs on my phone and GUI RHEL.
I use Windows 7 - I've never used 8.1 and my brief foray in to Windows 10 went south after a number of BSODs that I couldn't resolve.
I don't have, nor do I ever want, a games console so the PS4/XBOX references that many friends share just go way over my head.
I've stopped making electronic notes, I've got a fountain pen, I listen to Radio 4 and I'm a grumpy old git.
Well - that was more soul bearing than I'd planned
Hmm, you sound remarkably like a luddite friend of mine I use Windows 7 - I've never used 8.1 and my brief foray in to Windows 10 went south after a number of BSODs that I couldn't resolve.
I don't have, nor do I ever want, a games console so the PS4/XBOX references that many friends share just go way over my head.
I've stopped making electronic notes, I've got a fountain pen, I listen to Radio 4 and I'm a grumpy old git.
Well - that was more soul bearing than I'd planned
Do you enjoy smashing things with shovels and painting garage floors with creosote per chance?The idea of a fitbit type device doesn't appeal in the slightest although I do use a Strava app on my phone when I'm out cycling.
DAB? Nah, give me good ol' FM - I was most annoyed when I got my Audi a few years back to find that my car didn't receive LW so I couldn't listen to the cricket...
I can, however, easily learn most technologies from a high level but gone are the days when I'd spend time learning it to the nth degree as I used to..
As this has expanded since I posted that I don't have a smartphone, I feel compelled to say some more.
45, 12 year old car, £15 Casio watch almost exactly the same as the one I had in 1982.
Have a smart 3D TV, never used the smart or 3D bits. I did buy a Blu-ray player that is networked though, it has a Netflix button on the remote control. Requires zero effort for a "Netflix and chill" session which is about my only modern concession.
Also build my own PC's but my eldest son uses it more than I do. Went to Win10 and then back 7, I'd still use XP if it was safe. I did used to try and keep up with the cutting edge of tech but one day realised is was a waste of time and more importantly money.
Materialism, keeping with the Jones's and black Friday, they can stick em up their jack'sies! A simpler life keeps me content.
This thread is like a lonely hearts ad for Luddites....... 45 year old Luddite, Would like to meet like minded Luddites for a good moan.
We are turning into our Dads quicker than we realise! ...... and I don't care.
45, 12 year old car, £15 Casio watch almost exactly the same as the one I had in 1982.
Have a smart 3D TV, never used the smart or 3D bits. I did buy a Blu-ray player that is networked though, it has a Netflix button on the remote control. Requires zero effort for a "Netflix and chill" session which is about my only modern concession.
Also build my own PC's but my eldest son uses it more than I do. Went to Win10 and then back 7, I'd still use XP if it was safe. I did used to try and keep up with the cutting edge of tech but one day realised is was a waste of time and more importantly money.
Materialism, keeping with the Jones's and black Friday, they can stick em up their jack'sies! A simpler life keeps me content.
This thread is like a lonely hearts ad for Luddites....... 45 year old Luddite, Would like to meet like minded Luddites for a good moan.
We are turning into our Dads quicker than we realise! ...... and I don't care.
Shaoxter said:
colin_p said:
Requires zero effort for a "Netflix and chill" session which is about my only modern concession.
You luddites better look up the meaning of that phrase!
I'll add that I don't have Netflix but I have been known to use torrents (have done on and off for about 10 years).
I'm JTW, I'm 39 and I'm a luddite.
At 52 I'm won over 100% by online banking (as long as security is enabled) - both for work and personal.
Aside from that, and having this weird and wonderful forum by my side whilst in the office, there are many tech advances and social norms I struggle to see the benefit of...
Instagram. Uh? Whatsapp? Twitter? FaceBook - why?
We do Skype with eldest son who is living in Canada, so that's all good.
And we have a networked telly for Netflix. No streamed music - we've never been muchly into 24/7 music so that's more for my car (where I added a box onto the ICE to plug a dongle into). But as for music formats - why the hell do we need so many? Betamax vs VHS was bad enough.
If there was space in the living room I'd be putting a Garrard deck in there with the LP collection. And maybe a reel to reel too. And Celestion Ditton 44's or similar. So much to do...
Aside from that, and having this weird and wonderful forum by my side whilst in the office, there are many tech advances and social norms I struggle to see the benefit of...
Instagram. Uh? Whatsapp? Twitter? FaceBook - why?
We do Skype with eldest son who is living in Canada, so that's all good.
And we have a networked telly for Netflix. No streamed music - we've never been muchly into 24/7 music so that's more for my car (where I added a box onto the ICE to plug a dongle into). But as for music formats - why the hell do we need so many? Betamax vs VHS was bad enough.
If there was space in the living room I'd be putting a Garrard deck in there with the LP collection. And maybe a reel to reel too. And Celestion Ditton 44's or similar. So much to do...
Shaoxter said:
You luddites better look up the meaning of that phrase!
I thought it was all innocent and the type of thing David Cameron would come out and say. Obviously not, and there was me thinking I was using a young hip phrase LOL. Good job I didn't come out with it at work!
HI-FI / surround sound, that is exempt from Luddite'ness.
But it has to be a proper system with big front floorstanders, and reasonably sized rear surrounds and a sub. None of those stupid modern soundbar things.
40 next year and I am finding myself enjoying the simpler things in life. I used to love gadgets and all things high tech and had to have the latest of whatever was going, but I am shying away from stuff like that these days. I can work my iPhone and my computer and find out what the problem is when they go wrong but that is about it. MIL asked me to look at her Windows phone the other day and I didn't know where to start.
Trying to get the CCTV hooked up to the internet so my wife can check up on her horses nearly drove me insane.
Trying to get the CCTV hooked up to the internet so my wife can check up on her horses nearly drove me insane.
No, I struggle with the motivation for many modern things but technology is always fine.
What I do find is that my parents generation struggle to use anything and my kids generation struggle to understand how anything works, they can use it but if it doesn't work then someone needs to fix it.
I used to build computers, and did electronics so would take a screw driver or soldering iron to something when needed. If my car had a puncture or needed an oil-change I'd sort it myself, back in my early 20's I'd do most servicing and repairs myself. If my house needs decorating I'll to it myself, rare I'd consider getting a man in to do something for me. Few seem to be able to change a wheel or know what a spark-plug is, the car doesn't run you phone a man. DIY stores are closing as fewer people attempt to have a go.
I feel therefore that we had generations who knew the basics of how stuff worked, when IT came along a lot weren't interested and never grasped it, and we have a young generation who have grown used to everything being easy and handed to them pre-assembled, they're just users.
What I do find is that my parents generation struggle to use anything and my kids generation struggle to understand how anything works, they can use it but if it doesn't work then someone needs to fix it.
I used to build computers, and did electronics so would take a screw driver or soldering iron to something when needed. If my car had a puncture or needed an oil-change I'd sort it myself, back in my early 20's I'd do most servicing and repairs myself. If my house needs decorating I'll to it myself, rare I'd consider getting a man in to do something for me. Few seem to be able to change a wheel or know what a spark-plug is, the car doesn't run you phone a man. DIY stores are closing as fewer people attempt to have a go.
I feel therefore that we had generations who knew the basics of how stuff worked, when IT came along a lot weren't interested and never grasped it, and we have a young generation who have grown used to everything being easy and handed to them pre-assembled, they're just users.
49 and I used to care.
I work in the IT industry.
I used to build PCs. I used to care about the latest gadgets.
Now I couldn't care less.
I have a smartphone because I needed a phone and got it free with the contract.
I have no TV.
I don't upgrade my computers anymore, I just buy a new laptop every couple of years.
I have pre 2000 cars.
I don't want any bit of technology telling me that "What I really wanted to do was this instead..."
My only concession to modernity is Spotify, the rest of it, facebook, twitter etc. can go hang.
It has all become so trivial and uninspiring.
I work in the IT industry.
I used to build PCs. I used to care about the latest gadgets.
Now I couldn't care less.
I have a smartphone because I needed a phone and got it free with the contract.
I have no TV.
I don't upgrade my computers anymore, I just buy a new laptop every couple of years.
I have pre 2000 cars.
I don't want any bit of technology telling me that "What I really wanted to do was this instead..."
My only concession to modernity is Spotify, the rest of it, facebook, twitter etc. can go hang.
It has all become so trivial and uninspiring.
Yes, 38 years old and a total Luddite.
I have never Skyped
Never been on Facebook, or Twitter or any other social media stuff
My Iphone is about 3 updates behind, as are my itunes.
It's taken me about 15 mins to type this.
Never built a computer...WTF... I thought it was only bond villains and Steven Hawking that did that.
I listen to the same 30-40 songs on my phone at the gym because my phone is "full", and I can't be arsed trying to get them onto my computer, I've tried spotify but my gym has no wifi, and my Data allowance in 0.000000001 whatevers (on my to do list).
It tragic really, I could go on.
Not bad at streaming pron though!
I have never Skyped
Never been on Facebook, or Twitter or any other social media stuff
My Iphone is about 3 updates behind, as are my itunes.
It's taken me about 15 mins to type this.
Never built a computer...WTF... I thought it was only bond villains and Steven Hawking that did that.
I listen to the same 30-40 songs on my phone at the gym because my phone is "full", and I can't be arsed trying to get them onto my computer, I've tried spotify but my gym has no wifi, and my Data allowance in 0.000000001 whatevers (on my to do list).
It tragic really, I could go on.
Not bad at streaming pron though!
One thing I truly hate (if that's the right word) is the voice control/activation on my car - The button on the steering wheel is too close to my thumb and I catch it far too often - It, along with all voice control, can go hang as far as I'm concerned as it is never particularly intuitive and, when I'm in the car, is confused by background noise...
f
king voice control, in a car? It'd be a swear fest.
I'm not fond of talking anyway and the last thing I'd want to do is talk to my car. I feel your pain.
The building PC thing harks back to the days when computers were expensive and laptops were beyond sensible reach financially. A run of the mill machine that you can buy now for £250 to £350 would have cost you £1,500 and anything nearing cutting edge years back would easily be £2,000 to £2,500+. Laptops I seem to remember were all £2,000+. This is the mid late 90's.
So what you'd do is build your own and save a fortune, I'd say at least 50%. It was the thing every sensible thinking man would do. And not that difficult, if I managed it it had to be easy.
Nowadays though it isn't worth it, the components cost more than a fully assembled machine with an operating system installed. Saying that I still do and maintain a gaming PC which I'll buy a motherboard bundle for every few years. Last time pricey as I also splashed out on SSHD's.
As mentioned above, I also go out and buy a low end laptop when it is needed and that is getting cheaper every time. I'm currently on my third personally owned laptop since 2006. I always buy low'ish end ones. Paid £600 for one in 2006, about £400 for the next one in 2011 and £250 for this current one.
Like anything in life though, some people like to be early adopters and in case of the cars if they didn't there would be no second hand market for the likes of us Luddites. All hail the early adopters and new car buyers I say. Not for me anymore though.
Talking of which, I wonder what the sudden and massive craze for leasing over the last couple of years is going to do to second hand values? I bet there is a thread on it somewhere...
king voice control, in a car? It'd be a swear fest.I'm not fond of talking anyway and the last thing I'd want to do is talk to my car. I feel your pain.
The building PC thing harks back to the days when computers were expensive and laptops were beyond sensible reach financially. A run of the mill machine that you can buy now for £250 to £350 would have cost you £1,500 and anything nearing cutting edge years back would easily be £2,000 to £2,500+. Laptops I seem to remember were all £2,000+. This is the mid late 90's.
So what you'd do is build your own and save a fortune, I'd say at least 50%. It was the thing every sensible thinking man would do. And not that difficult, if I managed it it had to be easy.
Nowadays though it isn't worth it, the components cost more than a fully assembled machine with an operating system installed. Saying that I still do and maintain a gaming PC which I'll buy a motherboard bundle for every few years. Last time pricey as I also splashed out on SSHD's.
As mentioned above, I also go out and buy a low end laptop when it is needed and that is getting cheaper every time. I'm currently on my third personally owned laptop since 2006. I always buy low'ish end ones. Paid £600 for one in 2006, about £400 for the next one in 2011 and £250 for this current one.
Like anything in life though, some people like to be early adopters and in case of the cars if they didn't there would be no second hand market for the likes of us Luddites. All hail the early adopters and new car buyers I say. Not for me anymore though.
Talking of which, I wonder what the sudden and massive craze for leasing over the last couple of years is going to do to second hand values? I bet there is a thread on it somewhere...
Edited by colin_p on Thursday 26th November 18:33
AClownsPocket said:
3 years behind you. Understand what you mean.
Regarding the NAS. Look at the Drobo 5N. Simple to setup and use. Plug it into your router with an Ethernet cable. Point your devices to it and map a network drive to rip CD's to.
It also installs Drobo Apps, so if you used a cloud backup like Crashplan, you can install it directly to the NAS and it uploads changed files automatically. Fire and forget.
I'm 6 years ahead of you (I think - I'm 42).Regarding the NAS. Look at the Drobo 5N. Simple to setup and use. Plug it into your router with an Ethernet cable. Point your devices to it and map a network drive to rip CD's to.
It also installs Drobo Apps, so if you used a cloud backup like Crashplan, you can install it directly to the NAS and it uploads changed files automatically. Fire and forget.
I have no idea what you're talking about - NAS/Drobo/Crashplan. I'm excited because I can plug in a USB stick in my car & it plays music
Personally I quite like it this way. It means I get excited about technology I can use, rather than pissed off about technology I don't understand.
I've built my own pc in the past, and self taught myself website design and hosting.... However if you can find my one person to explain why the fk Apple can't explain how their photo filing system works then I'll eat my hat.
Oh, they're in the Photos app, delete them from there and it turns out they're not actually stored in there and all you've done is stop you being able to see it. They're in the cloud, yet delete them on your phone and your laptop copies them back in.
What was actually wrong with having a normal file system so you can just move and delete as you want
k Apple can't explain how their photo filing system works then I'll eat my hat.Oh, they're in the Photos app, delete them from there and it turns out they're not actually stored in there and all you've done is stop you being able to see it. They're in the cloud, yet delete them on your phone and your laptop copies them back in.
What was actually wrong with having a normal file system so you can just move and delete as you want
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