Asked to leave swimming pool
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ukaskew said:
Got an email...
The admission policy for the swimming pool which includes the separate Pirate Ship area was written following an extensive and detailed risk assessment process as required by HSG 179 Managing Health and Safety in Swimming Pools. Guidance from bodies such as the Institute of Sport and Recreation Management and the Royal Lifesaving Society was also considered and prior to the admissions policy being put into operation, the policy was reviewed and approved by specialist health and safety consultants.
Whereas we genuinely understand the disappointment you felt in this situation; we must emphasise how important it is for our staff to adhere to the admission policy at all times, even during periods where the area might be very quiet. Ultimately the policy is put in place with the safety of our patrons in mind which we are sure you can appreciate.
My god, even the management don't understand it! The admission policy for the swimming pool which includes the separate Pirate Ship area was written following an extensive and detailed risk assessment process as required by HSG 179 Managing Health and Safety in Swimming Pools. Guidance from bodies such as the Institute of Sport and Recreation Management and the Royal Lifesaving Society was also considered and prior to the admissions policy being put into operation, the policy was reviewed and approved by specialist health and safety consultants.
Whereas we genuinely understand the disappointment you felt in this situation; we must emphasise how important it is for our staff to adhere to the admission policy at all times, even during periods where the area might be very quiet. Ultimately the policy is put in place with the safety of our patrons in mind which we are sure you can appreciate.
Ask them in what way having two rather than one parent with a child increases the risk?
Might be worth questioning the policy with two children. Are two parents allowed then? If so, why? Given that their risk assessment is 'more parents, more risk'.
Amazing!
MrsMiggins said:
Can you ask the company concerned to define the exclusion zone around the child in which only 1 parent can be present?
Would you be allowed in the pool if you were 20 metres away?
Obviously not, as then it would be 1 parent with 0 kids, which is more parents than kids. You can only have 0 parents with 0 kids. In fact, that is the exact ratio of parents to kids I would give this pool in the future, 0-0. Just imagine how safe it will be when there's no fWould you be allowed in the pool if you were 20 metres away?
ker in there!Honestly, mum and dad can't go swimming with their only child....I've never heard such complete and utter f
king tripe. God knows why you didn't make a fuss at the time but it seems obvious that the word "minimum" is missing from your post
ukaskew said:
Ari said:
My god, even the management don't understand it!
No they do unfortunately. I asked for simple clarification and they replied to say that yes, the lifeguard was correct, it's one adult per child for health and safety reasons.Just Please don't settle for the next excuse to let this stand.
You dont need a petition or to camp out at no.10... simple emails to council/press/parenting groups.
Is this not simple discrimination to single child families??
Appears to me the lifegaurd, and the company he works for are hoping an official sounding line repeated will be enough....I repeat...please don't let it go. One of, or both parents will be missing out on the simple joys of parenting otherwise...."I'm sorry only one of you can watch your child on the swings"....."which parent will be attending parents evening?"...."Each pupil can have one parent attend the nativity play..."
ridiculous.
You dont need a petition or to camp out at no.10... simple emails to council/press/parenting groups.
Is this not simple discrimination to single child families??
Appears to me the lifegaurd, and the company he works for are hoping an official sounding line repeated will be enough....I repeat...please don't let it go. One of, or both parents will be missing out on the simple joys of parenting otherwise...."I'm sorry only one of you can watch your child on the swings"....."which parent will be attending parents evening?"...."Each pupil can have one parent attend the nativity play..."
ridiculous.
ukaskew said:
No they do unfortunately. I asked for simple clarification and they replied to say that yes, the lifeguard was correct, it's one adult per child for health and safety reasons.
Why? How is the risk increased by having two parents with the child?If they turfed you all out and told you that you had to have one toasted cheese sandwich per child on the poolside for 'health and safety reasons' would you mildly willingly accept that as a reason too?
Health & Safety have a form to put false claims to a 'panel'.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/myth-busting.htm
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/myth-busting.htm
I suspect the OP is in the region of wishing he'd never posted this question at all.
I don't see how criticisms for not 'fighting' with the lifeguard or management at the time are at all helpful to the original question.
It is quite normal and natural to accept the instructions of the person in 'authority' in situations like this. Yes, I may well have taken it further myself in that situation, but I am argumentative and combative by nature (when a clear lack of logic and reason is displayed as so clearly it has been in this case).
My opinion, for what it's worth; they are idiots and/or liars, and deserve to be shamed by this incident.
But that's just an opinion.
For the record, I wouldn't be going to a national paper with this either, at least not officially.
That is simply not for 'normal people' in my opinion, though I would find this one of the few occasions when I would support someone in principal for doing so.
Rules such as these are absurd beyond the normal level of absurd that we are facing these days.
ETA
One hundred percent support and good luck.
I don't see how criticisms for not 'fighting' with the lifeguard or management at the time are at all helpful to the original question.
It is quite normal and natural to accept the instructions of the person in 'authority' in situations like this. Yes, I may well have taken it further myself in that situation, but I am argumentative and combative by nature (when a clear lack of logic and reason is displayed as so clearly it has been in this case).
My opinion, for what it's worth; they are idiots and/or liars, and deserve to be shamed by this incident.
But that's just an opinion.
For the record, I wouldn't be going to a national paper with this either, at least not officially.
That is simply not for 'normal people' in my opinion, though I would find this one of the few occasions when I would support someone in principal for doing so.
nyt said:
Health & Safety have a form to put false claims to a 'panel'.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/myth-busting.htm
I think this is a good catch; I hope the OP has the energy remaining to try taking this option.http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/myth-busting.htm
Rules such as these are absurd beyond the normal level of absurd that we are facing these days.
ETA
ukaskew said:
Don't worry I intend to see this through (although not via the press), the Institute I mentioned earlier and that myth busting panel seems like a good shout to start with.
Seems I was typing while you were posting.One hundred percent support and good luck.
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