Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 4)
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grumpy said:
Tyre Tread said:
Tomorrow the Cardiff Velothon is being held.
The road closures in place all day inconveniencing many thousands of people annoy me.
The fact that between 9:00am and 6:00 pm I won't be able to get my car out of or into the village I live in on the outskirts of Cardiff riles me
Surely it can't be legal to deny me and hundreds of other people access to the road network just because some MAMILs want to pedal their funny little bikes along the roads while dressed in lycra?
'king annoys me as well. There's somewhere I need to go later today, sorry the road closed. Lycra tossers. The road closures in place all day inconveniencing many thousands of people annoy me.
The fact that between 9:00am and 6:00 pm I won't be able to get my car out of or into the village I live in on the outskirts of Cardiff riles me
Surely it can't be legal to deny me and hundreds of other people access to the road network just because some MAMILs want to pedal their funny little bikes along the roads while dressed in lycra?
grumpy52 said:
grumpy said:
Tyre Tread said:
Tomorrow the Cardiff Velothon is being held.
The road closures in place all day inconveniencing many thousands of people annoy me.
The fact that between 9:00am and 6:00 pm I won't be able to get my car out of or into the village I live in on the outskirts of Cardiff riles me
Surely it can't be legal to deny me and hundreds of other people access to the road network just because some MAMILs want to pedal their funny little bikes along the roads while dressed in lycra?
'king annoys me as well. There's somewhere I need to go later today, sorry the road closed. Lycra tossers. The road closures in place all day inconveniencing many thousands of people annoy me.
The fact that between 9:00am and 6:00 pm I won't be able to get my car out of or into the village I live in on the outskirts of Cardiff riles me
Surely it can't be legal to deny me and hundreds of other people access to the road network just because some MAMILs want to pedal their funny little bikes along the roads while dressed in lycra?
every Sunday, three abreast overtaking each other (on a busy A road) using their "wobble bars" and silly airflow hats. The trucks nearly always suck them into the middle of the road because they cannot control the bikes with those handle bars.
Lotus Notes said:
Well done that man.
It can't be e asy being big, but it appears to be far too easy to do nothing about it.
I was healthy a 13 stone back in 2001 - exercising regularly, etc then moved down south on company expenses for 10 years, hotels, midweek boozing and expensed meals got me up to 18 stone.It can't be e asy being big, but it appears to be far too easy to do nothing about it.
In the end I moved back up north bought a knackered old house and proceeded to renovate the arse out of it myself instead of going to a gym - three years later all that weight is gone again...and as an added bonus (except she made me sell my snotters) the bank manager was quite tasty when I went for the funds for the house and now she's my wife and mother of our kids!
Stickyfinger said:
It is Time Trials down my way
every Sunday, three abreast overtaking each other (on a busy A road) using their "wobble bars" and silly airflow hats. The trucks nearly always suck them into the middle of the road because they cannot control the bikes with those handle bars.
Same here, though on a Wednesday night. People race and safety becomes a secondary motivation to winning/beating a previous time by a tenth of a second, people take their eye of the ball and get hurt. Not allowed to race anything else on a public road - why pushbikes?every Sunday, three abreast overtaking each other (on a busy A road) using their "wobble bars" and silly airflow hats. The trucks nearly always suck them into the middle of the road because they cannot control the bikes with those handle bars.
popeyewhite said:
Stickyfinger said:
It is Time Trials down my way
every Sunday, three abreast overtaking each other (on a busy A road) using their "wobble bars" and silly airflow hats. The trucks nearly always suck them into the middle of the road because they cannot control the bikes with those handle bars.
Same here, though on a Wednesday night. People race and safety becomes a secondary motivation to winning/beating a previous time by a tenth of a second, people take their eye of the ball and get hurt. Not allowed to race anything else on a public road - why pushbikes?every Sunday, three abreast overtaking each other (on a busy A road) using their "wobble bars" and silly airflow hats. The trucks nearly always suck them into the middle of the road because they cannot control the bikes with those handle bars.
Alex Dowsett. Current British Time Trial Champion. Professional racing cyclist.
In 2014 he set a competition record by riding 10 miles in 17 minutes and 20 seconds on the A11. That's an average speed of 34.6153mph on a British 'A' road. How VERY irresponsible of him! 35mph when the limit is probably at least 60mph. Think of those poor car drivers struggling to pass him too, one bicycle all alone in one lane of the carriageway.
You dopes understand the concept of a "Time Trial", yes? One at a time, at one minute intervals, against the clock. No drafting, no pelotons, very little passing of other riders (unless you're truly talented and can catch your 'minute man'). The reason that time trialling is permitted should be quite obvious. Bicycles, even ridden by good amateur racers, won't be travelling much above 26mph, and that'll always be below the posted speed limit as TTs don't get run in urban areas. On top of that, the courses are designed to avoid right turns other than at roundabouts. One I rode in Essex simply goes up the road for five miles, round the roundabout, and back down. It starts in a lay-by and finishes just before a pub car park. One local to me is a 'T' - start on a quiet road, up to the dual carriageway, turn left (obviously, as it's a dual carriageway, silly) then round the roundabout, all the way up to the roundabout at the other end, back to the quiet road, turn left and finish. If drivers are driving are driving in a 'competent' fashion, riding a bicycle in a TT should be no more dangerous than driving a motorcycle along the same route, or nipping to the shops on a Pashley.
Not allowed to race anything else on the roads? Guess why that might be. Cars and motorcycles race at speeds well in excess of what is 'normal' for any given road. To the point where they will need both lanes of a single carriageway road to navigate a corner at race pace. It'd be impossible to run a motor race on public roads without massive impact from closures and having proper run offs, barriers and marshaling. Bicycles, especially lone TT riders, will need no more space to negotiate a bend than they would outside of an event, hence there's no need to close roads. Signs and marshals go out on the course, especially at side junctions (which most TTs try to avoid if possible) to warn traffic, and the 'race' is ordered so that the slowest riders leave first. This means that typically, for a 30 rider field, spaced at one minute intervals, the 'race' will be over in less than 1 hour with relatively few individuals taking longer than 30 minutes to complete their run. What havoc that must create for drivers where TTs are run! One hour a week of 30 cyclists spread over a ten mile course, only half of which is likely to be sharing the same direction as you anyway...
Edit: There's a bit in here about another rider you might have heard of... http://www.skysports.com/cycling/news/21683/985350... ...which mentions him (and only him) having a Police outrider, and the organisers rejecting entry applications from riders who's times were deemed to be "too fast" for the event which was "aimed specifically at the slower end of the time-trial spectrum".
Edited by yellowjack on Monday 23 May 01:07
yellowjack said:
popeyewhite said:
Stickyfinger said:
It is Time Trials down my way
every Sunday, three abreast overtaking each other (on a busy A road) using their "wobble bars" and silly airflow hats. The trucks nearly always suck them into the middle of the road because they cannot control the bikes with those handle bars.
Same here, though on a Wednesday night. People race and safety becomes a secondary motivation to winning/beating a previous time by a tenth of a second, people take their eye of the ball and get hurt. Not allowed to race anything else on a public road - why pushbikes?every Sunday, three abreast overtaking each other (on a busy A road) using their "wobble bars" and silly airflow hats. The trucks nearly always suck them into the middle of the road because they cannot control the bikes with those handle bars.
I cycled the yorkshire dales cycleway the other weekend- 150 miles of lovely local countryside. Anyway- we were going at a slowish pace: big group, charity ride, unfit people with us and so on.
a pack of cyclists passed us, with a motorcycle rider person at the back- warning motorists I guess. They were absolutely flying along.
trust me the speed they were going at, it really wasn't going to hold a fat BMW driving git up at all, on beautiful dales roads which are tight and narrow anyway.
On a A road where fat BMW man can do 60, I agree, but not in god's own country.
a pack of cyclists passed us, with a motorcycle rider person at the back- warning motorists I guess. They were absolutely flying along.
trust me the speed they were going at, it really wasn't going to hold a fat BMW driving git up at all, on beautiful dales roads which are tight and narrow anyway.
On a A road where fat BMW man can do 60, I agree, but not in god's own country.
RobinOakapple said:
You've not grasped the raison d'être of this thread. Let me explain it to you. Its purpose is to provide a thread in which people can say what annoys them.
Yes, quite correct.I seem to have fallen into the common PH trap of getting too involved and taking the thread somewhere it ought not to go. My apologies. As you were, chaps, as you were...
ClockworkCupcake said:
DavieW said:
What annoys me even more than the road closures is the fact you're not allowed to close roads for motorsport events but cycling, running, skipping, hoopla etc events are.
That's no longer true. The law was recently changed - last year I think - and now roads can be closed for motorsport. Edit: 2 years ago in fact - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114921
Issi said:
Do you mean like the IoM TT, the Northwest 2000, the Monaco Grand Prix, the Jim Clark Rally?
IoM TT is in the IoM - different laws there. Likewise Monaco which isn't in the UK. And the Jim Clark Rally has special dispensation (see the autosport link above). Anyway, as I said, the law has changed now.
Edited by ClockworkCupcake on Sunday 22 May 11:54
austinsmirk said:
I cycled the yorkshire dales cycleway the other weekend- 150 miles of lovely local countryside. Anyway- we were going at a slowish pace: big group, charity ride, unfit people with us and so on.
a pack of cyclists passed us, with a motorcycle rider person at the back- warning motorists I guess. They were absolutely flying along.
trust me the speed they were going at, it really wasn't going to hold a fat BMW driving git up at all, on beautiful dales roads which are tight and narrow anyway.
On a A road where fat BMW man can do 60, I agree, but not in god's own country.
Unfortunately in the Peak district it's mostly a bit hilly for any cyclist to fly along. Local farmers are in on the joke now and painted signs have appeared. One read "Who needs speed calming measures when you have cyclists"! On a weekend there can be huge lines of traffic waiting to pass a couple of middle aged men in lycra. The animosity is understandable I'm afraid, it's just not common sense to hold up that volume of traffic.a pack of cyclists passed us, with a motorcycle rider person at the back- warning motorists I guess. They were absolutely flying along.
trust me the speed they were going at, it really wasn't going to hold a fat BMW driving git up at all, on beautiful dales roads which are tight and narrow anyway.
On a A road where fat BMW man can do 60, I agree, but not in god's own country.
I think there's an issue developing of increasing severity where a larger and larger contingent of the population are wishing to use the road network as a leisure platform, versus others who view a road as primarily a way of getting from A to B for a functional reason or need to be met.
IMO the roads were primarily built ( and paid for ) to meet that basic need of getting from A to B.
So when the roads are blocked or shut because hundreds of cyclists want to effectively "play" on them, preventing people from going about their legitimate business it is annoying.
Same goes for mass tractor rallies, horse riding events, etc which seem to happen more and more.
But I have to say the thing with the cyclists is that it's pretty much every bloody weekend now, it's a new craze, the new 'golf' apparently. So it's the sudden and huge increase in the number of cyclists and the frequency with which they gather en mass which is conspicous.
IMO the roads were primarily built ( and paid for ) to meet that basic need of getting from A to B.
So when the roads are blocked or shut because hundreds of cyclists want to effectively "play" on them, preventing people from going about their legitimate business it is annoying.
Same goes for mass tractor rallies, horse riding events, etc which seem to happen more and more.
But I have to say the thing with the cyclists is that it's pretty much every bloody weekend now, it's a new craze, the new 'golf' apparently. So it's the sudden and huge increase in the number of cyclists and the frequency with which they gather en mass which is conspicous.
Timmy40 said:
I think there's an issue developing of increasing severity where a larger and larger contingent of the population are wishing to use the road network as a leisure platform, versus others who view a road as primarily a way of getting from A to B for a functional reason or need to be met.
IMO the roads were primarily built ( and paid for ) to meet that basic need of getting from A to B.
So when the roads are blocked or shut because hundreds of cyclists want to effectively "play" on them, preventing people from going about their legitimate business it is annoying.
Same goes for mass tractor rallies, horse riding events, etc which seem to happen more and more.
But I have to say the thing with the cyclists is that it's pretty much every bloody weekend now, it's a new craze, the new 'golf' apparently. So it's the sudden and huge increase in the number of cyclists and the frequency with which they gather en mass which is conspicous.
I think this is a very good point, very well put. IMO the roads were primarily built ( and paid for ) to meet that basic need of getting from A to B.
So when the roads are blocked or shut because hundreds of cyclists want to effectively "play" on them, preventing people from going about their legitimate business it is annoying.
Same goes for mass tractor rallies, horse riding events, etc which seem to happen more and more.
But I have to say the thing with the cyclists is that it's pretty much every bloody weekend now, it's a new craze, the new 'golf' apparently. So it's the sudden and huge increase in the number of cyclists and the frequency with which they gather en mass which is conspicous.
That's not to detract from peoples' desire to gain some enjoyment - there is far too much drudgery in life, for sure. But there has to be a balance.
Watching an advert break on TV before realising that it was a programme I had recorded and could have fast forwarded the adverts!
Neighbours that put lidless recycling boxes out for collection on windy days. They probably assume it has been emptied by the binmen when in fact their rubbish has blown halfway down the street, and I come home to find my driveway covered in empty cans and milk cartons.
Neighbours that put lidless recycling boxes out for collection on windy days. They probably assume it has been emptied by the binmen when in fact their rubbish has blown halfway down the street, and I come home to find my driveway covered in empty cans and milk cartons.
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