Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 4)
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RobinOakapple said:
The utter b
ks being put forward by the Remain campaign.
Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
One of the most annoying aspects for me is the Remain campaign's tactic of 'without the EU we wouldn't have ........' along the lines of 'What have the Romans ever done for us?' a la Monty Python. ks being put forward by the Remain campaign. Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
Some of it may be true, but you have no way of knowing what would have happened if we hadn't been in the EU, and some of it could well have happened sooner, better or both.
They seem to be suggesting that the UK, as an independent nation/people, would not have had the wherewithal to, for example, update our employment laws, or clean up our beaches, which I, for one, find quite insulting.
RobinOakapple said:
The utter bks being put forward by the Remain campaign.
Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
Any use of the word 'patriotic' and the leave side saying we can negotiate our own trade agreements like its some sort of good thing, believing we have anything like the clout we'd have inside the EU. ks being put forward by the Remain campaign. Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
Edit - typo on a fairly key point!
Edited by Vocal Minority on Thursday 21st April 11:02
Vocal Minority said:
RobinOakapple said:
The utter bks being put forward by the Remain campaign.
Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
Any use of the word 'patriotic' and the leave side saying we can negotiate our own trade agreements like its some sort of good thing, believing we have anything like the clout we'd have outside of the EU. ks being put forward by the Remain campaign. Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
monthefish said:
Windows 10 - the offer to upgrade.
Your choices:
- Upgrade Now
- Schedule upgrade later
- Do not schedule
So you select 'Do not schedule', and the bloody thing keeps coming back.
Left my PC on and the reminder popped up when I was out,after an hour of not being clicked off,the bYour choices:
- Upgrade Now
- Schedule upgrade later
- Do not schedule
So you select 'Do not schedule', and the bloody thing keeps coming back.
d upgtraded itself anyway!!!! Saying that ,W10 seems OK,it even put back Classic Shell I had on 8.1,so you barely notice
Which means it is bound to f
k itself up soonVocal Minority said:
RobinOakapple said:
The utter bks being put forward by the Remain campaign.
Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
Any use of the word 'patriotic' and the leave side saying we can negotiate our own trade agreements like its some sort of good thing, believing we have anything like the clout we'd have outside of the EU. ks being put forward by the Remain campaign. Gove is right, they are treating voters like children.
Has me wondering whether Cameron actually wants us to leave and is using reverse psychology and plausible deniability.
RobinOakapple said:
And the remain side saying that we need the EU clout in order to benefit from international trade, as if we were a net exporter (like that's ever going to happen).
Personally I am happy to take the FTs word that it will be a pain in the backside! Just to use one example - China. I am fromt he West Midlands and one of our biggest employers is JLR. JLR depend on trade to China, pretty significantly.
We get to negotiate our own deal with China. Hooray....anyone who thinks that we would be able to negotiate with China with ANYTHING like the clout of the EU on the issue is a bit naive and living in the fifties to be honest (people do not defer to us because we are Great Britain any more!).
So if there is a price hike due to levys and taxes etc - why on earth would they forsake a BMW or Audi for a now suddenly more expensive Jag or range Rover. They probably wouldn't is the answer.
Another 'pro' argument I have seen was something to do with getting away from EU agriculture policy - well the NFU are mortified because the industry is propped up by the subsidies.
Anyway - I will leave it there as there are other threads for this stuff
Vocal Minority said:
RobinOakapple said:
And the remain side saying that we need the EU clout in order to benefit from international trade, as if we were a net exporter (like that's ever going to happen).
Personally I am happy to take the FTs word that it will be a pain in the backside! Just to use one example - China. I am fromt he West Midlands and one of our biggest employers is JLR. JLR depend on trade to China, pretty significantly.
We get to negotiate our own deal with China. Hooray....anyone who thinks that we would be able to negotiate with China with ANYTHING like the clout of the EU on the issue is a bit naive and living in the fifties to be honest (people do not defer to us because we are Great Britain any more!).
So if there is a price hike due to levys and taxes etc - why on earth would they forsake a BMW or Audi for a now suddenly more expensive Jag or range Rover. They probably wouldn't is the answer.
Another 'pro' argument I have seen was something to do with getting away from EU agriculture policy - well the NFU are mortified because the industry is propped up by the subsidies.
Anyway - I will leave it there as there are other threads for this stuff
I agree anything further should go on an appropriate thread.
The Guardian.
Or specifically, the campaign they are pushing to 'police the interweb' dressed up as a defence of women's rights (because female* Guardian writers receive more online trolling).
Luckily their comment section doesn't hold back - they get a good shoe'ing.
Doesn't mean it won't happen though.
Or specifically, the campaign they are pushing to 'police the interweb' dressed up as a defence of women's rights (because female* Guardian writers receive more online trolling).
- other - and none - gender types are available, once someone has invented them.
Luckily their comment section doesn't hold back - they get a good shoe'ing.
Doesn't mean it won't happen though.
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