Things that annoy you beyond reason...(Vol 4)
Discussion
All that jazz said:
It's professional and respectful and how it should be done imho, particularly in any customer service role. You should always be addressed as Mr. [insert surname] or Sir until such a time comes where you give them permission to use your first name. I can't remember which company it was but I remember some years ago I had a problem with a device which necessitated ringing them for help and I was addressed by my first name by someone who sounded about 18 years old. I don't expect to be treated/addressed like a mate by a company to whom I'm paying considerable money to every month for a service they're failing to provide .
So 20th century (and 19th for that matter).vtecyo said:
Adding the word "gate" to something to signify it's some form of scandal.
Also, as the 3rd round of the FA Cup was last weekend - pundits going all dewey-eyed and blathering about "the magic [or occasionally "romance"] of the Cup."
Dr Murdoch said:
Neither, just an 'excuse me' to get my attention if needed.
Edited to add, on reflection I think I would prefer 'mate', at least it has a sense of honesty about it.
'Sir' is so false, you know its false, they know its false, just seems a pointless charade to me.
When I started in my job and was out on the floor, it actually came quite naturally to me to address people as "Sir" and "madam" initially, though my direct contact was with people of an older generation who also perhaps expected that of a gangly 18 year old who was there to help them. No pretension around it. However, I don't get the same from older people talking to me (in any situation).Edited to add, on reflection I think I would prefer 'mate', at least it has a sense of honesty about it.
'Sir' is so false, you know its false, they know its false, just seems a pointless charade to me.
Edited by Dr Murdoch on Thursday 12th January 12:20
This was at the point before I knew the persons name, if I learned it, then it could move to Mr/Mrs and surname, though generally once in conversation with somebody I don't feel the need to repeat their name all the time...
SNOWMAGEDDON!
The BBC were reporting from Heathrow earlier, it was raining but not heavily.
They wanted to talk about snow and delays and calamity, but there wasn't any snow.
So they deliberately filmed with raindrops all over the lense so the weather looked worse than it was.
Then they cut to somewhere with snow, and reported that there were some delays earlier but that everything was ok now.
So basically nothing to report, but don't let that get in the way of a good story will you?
The BBC were reporting from Heathrow earlier, it was raining but not heavily.
They wanted to talk about snow and delays and calamity, but there wasn't any snow.
So they deliberately filmed with raindrops all over the lense so the weather looked worse than it was.
Then they cut to somewhere with snow, and reported that there were some delays earlier but that everything was ok now.
So basically nothing to report, but don't let that get in the way of a good story will you?
Dr Murdoch said:
Neither, just an 'excuse me' to get my attention if needed.
Edited to add, on reflection I think I would prefer 'mate', at least it has a sense of honesty about it.
'Sir' is so false, you know its false, they know its false, just seems a pointless charade to me.
We may as well get rid of "Thank You", then. It's also just a pointless charade. I very rarely want to thank the person I'm saying it too. Reasonably often I'd sooner stab them in the eye with a rusty screwdriver. But it's the done thing, and part of civilised society (unlike screwdriver to the eye interaction).Edited to add, on reflection I think I would prefer 'mate', at least it has a sense of honesty about it.
'Sir' is so false, you know its false, they know its false, just seems a pointless charade to me.
Edited by Dr Murdoch on Thursday 12th January 12:20
DJFish said:
SNOWMAGEDDON!
The BBC were reporting from Heathrow earlier, it was raining but not heavily.
They wanted to talk about snow and delays and calamity, but there wasn't any snow.
So they deliberately filmed with raindrops all over the lense so the weather looked worse than it was.
Then they cut to somewhere with snow, and reported that there were some delays earlier but that everything was ok now.
So basically nothing to report, but don't let that get in the way of a good story will you?
I'm sure there is a clause buried somewhere in the BBC's Royal Charter that says they have to run a snow disruption/people skiing to work story at least once every winter. Along with "NHS in crisis" [at this point I'll duck].The BBC were reporting from Heathrow earlier, it was raining but not heavily.
They wanted to talk about snow and delays and calamity, but there wasn't any snow.
So they deliberately filmed with raindrops all over the lense so the weather looked worse than it was.
Then they cut to somewhere with snow, and reported that there were some delays earlier but that everything was ok now.
So basically nothing to report, but don't let that get in the way of a good story will you?
Munter said:
We may as well get rid of "Thank You", then.
Its basic manners though that we teach children, i'm not aware of children being taught to say sir before employment? Reminds me of a Charles Dickens era. Please / thank you are not at all demeaning unlike the faux 'sir'.Anyway, I'm afraid it will still annoy me beyond reason (or make me feel uneasy beyond reason), however much it is debated.
So Sirs, I bid you good day.
Dr Murdoch said:
People calling me 'Sir'.
I'm not a 'Sir' and I find incredibly demeaning to the person calling me 'Sir', annoys me that companies expect their staff to address me (and others) in this way.
Is that 'Sir' in the American style or only in a customer service type interface?I'm not a 'Sir' and I find incredibly demeaning to the person calling me 'Sir', annoys me that companies expect their staff to address me (and others) in this way.
When I visited the US I said it automatically, (When in Rome etc.) but upon returning reverted to British type courtesy, apologising for everything and forgetting peoples names.
Edited by nonsequitur on Thursday 12th January 14:21
nonsequitur said:
Dr Murdoch said:
The late Jake Elam, for it is he.Although he's probably played a 'Jake'.
He once said there are five stages in an actor's life:
1 "Who the hell is Jack Elam?"
2 "Get me Jack Elam."
3 "I want a Jack Elam type."
4 "I want a younger Jack Elam."
5 "Who the hell is Jack Elam?"
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