Pit Bull attack, what would you do ?
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Stickyfinger said:
R8VXF said:
Regularly catches rabbits and squirrels, chases deer and has harassed a pack of pigs!
Another wonderful Dog owner living in cuckoo land about the danger their dog is !The pig farmer would have got a reasonable payout from his insurance if he hadn't lied about the damage caused.
R8VXF said:
What danger? To other animals? Surviving for 6 months as a stray means she is a good hunter. Doesnt mean she is gonna rip your face off though.
The pig farmer would have got a reasonable payout from his insurance if he hadn't lied about the damage caused.
Troll or fool?, I do not really careThe pig farmer would have got a reasonable payout from his insurance if he hadn't lied about the damage caused.
paulwirral said:
I haven't read all the answers but I have witnessed a large pit bull , staff type dog attack a jack Russell first hand .
It was horrendous , 2 guys hit it over the head with a cricket bat and it made no difference , I called the cops , they asked what I wanted them to do , I said " whatever they wanted to , my conscience is clear as I've reported a dangerous dog that could rip a kid to bits " they turned up 2 mins later , let them sort it , it's their job !
I had a JRT who got attacked by a Staffy years ago. A Size ten to the side of the head sent the Staffy several feet down the road to protect my dog. By the time the Staffy noticed the owner had got him.It was horrendous , 2 guys hit it over the head with a cricket bat and it made no difference , I called the cops , they asked what I wanted them to do , I said " whatever they wanted to , my conscience is clear as I've reported a dangerous dog that could rip a kid to bits " they turned up 2 mins later , let them sort it , it's their job !
Didn't cause me to think all Staffies are dangerous & indeed we have two now.
paulwirral said:
I haven't read all the answers but I have witnessed a large pit bull , staff type dog attack a jack Russell first hand .
It was horrendous , 2 guys hit it over the head with a cricket bat and it made no difference , I called the cops , they asked what I wanted them to do , I said " whatever they wanted to , my conscience is clear as I've reported a dangerous dog that could rip a kid to bits " they turned up 2 mins later , let them sort it , it's their job !
What did the cops do?It was horrendous , 2 guys hit it over the head with a cricket bat and it made no difference , I called the cops , they asked what I wanted them to do , I said " whatever they wanted to , my conscience is clear as I've reported a dangerous dog that could rip a kid to bits " they turned up 2 mins later , let them sort it , it's their job !
vanordinaire said:
Autopilot said:
As I said in an earlier response, I wear a scratch suit and sleeve and have both sport and security dogs set on me. If you get knocked to the floor, you're not getting back up. The dog will be stronger, have more traction, grab hold of you and you'd be a very lucky man to get back on your feet. I'd take my chances with a human any day!
Also as in an earlier post, I really struggled with a Golden Retreiver, my wife laughed when I told her I'd been in genuine fear for my life, but I consider myself lucky to have survived. She wasn't so scathing when she saw the damage to my hands and arms from fighting it off.During the ordeal, I'm assuming that trying to pull its front legs apart and ripping its heart out didn't cross your mind? All these comments are total tosh! If you can reach the dogs front legs with your hands, then your face would need to be pretty close to the dogs face. I'm pretty strong but not sure how much power I could exert or if I could maintain a decent grip if the dogs teeth were sunk in my face. I think I'd probably let go.
Instinct would be to get away from the dog, but if it's got hold of an arm, you've got no choice, you're stuck there until it lets go or you overpower it and can move away without it going at you again. If you're being dragged along on your front by your arm, you've got no hope of getting on your feet, dogs are great at using their weight to their advantage! You try to move, it pulls.
I hope your injuries weren't too bad! Sounds like a scary ordeal!
Halb said:
What did the cops do?
Very little , turned up , ran around questioning people as to what happened while the owner of the bull terrier thing managed to get it off , then told the owner to keep it under control . it was probably 18 years ago so I would imagine things have changed by now .Jack Russell was a mess but apparently was sewn up and lived . The big dog was very definitely a trophy dog for it's moron owner .
4x4Tyke said:
Snap the front legs out and upwards, when you hear the bones crack drive the broken ends inwards.
Yanking legs out is not the way to go IMO as it risks making the problem bigger. You need to ensure you make the problem smaller.Fold the front legs inwards, then the tail under it's middle, covered over by folding the back legs inwards. Next tuck the head under and fold lengthways using the spine as a guide. Roll the package into a neat ball, place into a plastic bag, tie it off and pop it into a dog bin on your way home; it's what they're there for, after all.
TheInternet said:
Yanking legs out is not the way to go IMO as it risks making the problem bigger. You need to ensure you make the problem smaller.
Fold the front legs inwards, then the tail under it's middle, covered over by folding the back legs inwards. Next tuck the head under and fold lengthways using the spine as a guide. Roll the package into a neat ball, place into a plastic bag, tie it off and pop it into a dog bin on your way home; it's what they're there for, after all.
What is this, Origami? Fold the front legs inwards, then the tail under it's middle, covered over by folding the back legs inwards. Next tuck the head under and fold lengthways using the spine as a guide. Roll the package into a neat ball, place into a plastic bag, tie it off and pop it into a dog bin on your way home; it's what they're there for, after all.
Cotty said:
and another attack
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808193/Ok...
Surprised he didn't just shoot them.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3808193/Ok...
My mum has a couple of Staffs, they don't start any trouble with other dogs due to the dog biscuit/energy expenditure ratio being incorrectly biased towards expending any energy.
These two dogs are so fking lazy that you can't even bribe them to attack someone with a dog biscuit whilst the dog is sitting next to the intended victim. You offer the dog a meaty flavoured dog treat to rip someones throat out and you can see the dog thinking...
'I need to expend energy to tear their jugular out but the treat I'll receive for doing so won't cover the energy expended let alone give me any net gain, fk it! I'll lick them instead, they taste of soap, I like soap'
These two dogs are so fking lazy that you can't even bribe them to attack someone with a dog biscuit whilst the dog is sitting next to the intended victim. You offer the dog a meaty flavoured dog treat to rip someones throat out and you can see the dog thinking...
'I need to expend energy to tear their jugular out but the treat I'll receive for doing so won't cover the energy expended let alone give me any net gain, fk it! I'll lick them instead, they taste of soap, I like soap'
Never tried it but been told by several "expert dog trainers" that the best way to stop fighting dogs is to pick them up by the scruff of their neck and they just stop whatever they're doing. They recognise it as the way their mum moved them around when they were pups and it's instinctive for them to just freeze and they' hang there quietly. Quite how you do that with a wild pit bull or GSD I don't know but it might be worth a try if all else fails?
Think I posed earlier in the thread, get behind them, grab their back legs, firmly pull them up in the air and apart and drag them away quickly
My dogs - collie and JR have fought and this is the only way to get them apart, its complete anarchy with blood and fir going everywhere , the above is the only technique I can do to separate them quickly
MY JR has a very strong locked jaw, once he locks onto a ball or similar there is no way you can pull it out, grabbing hind legs instantly releases jaw
Had a large bullmastiff grab my dogs toys and wouldnt let go, the bugger was bigger and heavier than me , He just wouldn't let go of brand new ball and owner had buggered off, so I just grabbed his back legs and he instantly let go and then turned round like he was going to go for me!!!
If grabbing legs failed I would try finger up bum, the risk is always that they will leave what they are attacking and start on you, but if it si a young child this is more than worth it.
My dogs - collie and JR have fought and this is the only way to get them apart, its complete anarchy with blood and fir going everywhere , the above is the only technique I can do to separate them quickly
MY JR has a very strong locked jaw, once he locks onto a ball or similar there is no way you can pull it out, grabbing hind legs instantly releases jaw
Had a large bullmastiff grab my dogs toys and wouldnt let go, the bugger was bigger and heavier than me , He just wouldn't let go of brand new ball and owner had buggered off, so I just grabbed his back legs and he instantly let go and then turned round like he was going to go for me!!!
If grabbing legs failed I would try finger up bum, the risk is always that they will leave what they are attacking and start on you, but if it si a young child this is more than worth it.
Similar thing happened to me.....
A little background.... I was in Armenia up in the mountains looking at a mine for financing, great trip and got chatting to one of the guys about the dogs they have there...
Huge things, size of an alsatian but look more like a wolf - he said they are usually tame expect when they have babies...
later that day....
So, the convoy is driving back to Yerevan the capital and stops on the side of the road
Seemed to me like a fantastic opportunity to take a leak in the bushes, so wandered off about ten yards towards a knackered looking old building
... suddenly i hear a chain rustling (do chains rustle... anyway a chain being pulled super fast)...
turned to my left and there is a huge one of these dogs running straight at me going totally apest.... remembered what the guy said
... no chance to run so stood there (not brave just could not process it quick enough).... as it jumped to bite me.... i reached over the back of the head and punched it (as hard as a scared to death englishman can)
No idea why i did this - just seemed furthest away from the teeth ; )
So it kinda fell to the ground and I jumped backwards
Luckiest man in the world that day as the chain seemed to finally grab it
Ended up sitting on my arse in the dust with a huge dog snapping at the chain six inches in front of my face.
Two take aways for me
- dont go for a leak at the side of the road in Armenia
- dogs are damn tough
A little background.... I was in Armenia up in the mountains looking at a mine for financing, great trip and got chatting to one of the guys about the dogs they have there...
Huge things, size of an alsatian but look more like a wolf - he said they are usually tame expect when they have babies...
later that day....
So, the convoy is driving back to Yerevan the capital and stops on the side of the road
Seemed to me like a fantastic opportunity to take a leak in the bushes, so wandered off about ten yards towards a knackered looking old building
... suddenly i hear a chain rustling (do chains rustle... anyway a chain being pulled super fast)...
turned to my left and there is a huge one of these dogs running straight at me going totally apest.... remembered what the guy said
... no chance to run so stood there (not brave just could not process it quick enough).... as it jumped to bite me.... i reached over the back of the head and punched it (as hard as a scared to death englishman can)
No idea why i did this - just seemed furthest away from the teeth ; )
So it kinda fell to the ground and I jumped backwards
Luckiest man in the world that day as the chain seemed to finally grab it
Ended up sitting on my arse in the dust with a huge dog snapping at the chain six inches in front of my face.
Two take aways for me
- dont go for a leak at the side of the road in Armenia
- dogs are damn tough
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