Pit Bull attack, what would you do ?

Pit Bull attack, what would you do ?

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lord trumpton

7,425 posts

127 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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This topic is a fking Joke - all the dog lovers quoting stuff like 'most dogs' are not aggressive.

No matter what the probability is, the dogs mind is unable to be read, the dog can;t communicate it's intentions owners can't guarantee their beloved dog wont one day turn nasty.

People can quote all the statistics they like about cars, being hit by lightening etc. It's been demonstrated time and time again that a normally placid dog had turned on a child.

Why do people wear seat belts? Because if the worst were to happen then they offer a degree of protection.

Dog's should be muzzled when out and about - because there is a possibility that a dog may harm exists; then it should be prevented.

Don't even get me started on dog stting and throwing dogst bags into the bushes.

I'm not afraid of dogs as others have suggested - it just irritates me that owners are too narrow minded to consider their lovely little st machines have the possibility to harm

ETA - FAO dog owners - your homes DO smell of dog to the non dog fanatic. It's a an awful smell too

Edited by lord trumpton on Wednesday 13th January 21:23

LordHaveMurci

12,046 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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lord trumpton said:
This topic is a fking Joke - all the dog lovers quoting stuff like 'most dogs' are not aggressive.

No matter what the probability is, the dogs mind is unable to be read, the dog can;t communicate it's intentions owners can't guarantee their beloved dog wont one day turn nasty.

People can quote all the statistics they like about cars, being hit by lightening etc. It's been demonstrated time and time again that a normally placid dog had turned on a child.

Why do people wear seat belts? Because if the worst were to happen then they offer a degree of protection.

Dog's should be muzzled when out and about - because there is a possibility that a dog may harm exists; then it should be prevented.

Don't even get me started on dog stting and throwing dogst bags into the bushes.

I'm not afraid of dogs as others have suggested - it just irritates me that owners are too narrow minded to consider their lovely little st machines have the possibility to harm
My spaniel passed assessment for PAT dog by people who know far more than me, are you seriously suggesting he should be muzzled in public?! He's also a working gundig, bred to be very soft mouthed, how much damage would he inflict in the exceptionally unlikely event he did turn?
Some real horsest & personal vendettas being spouted on this thread.

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

184 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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LordHaveMurci said:
My spaniel passed assessment for PAT dog by people who know far more than me, are you seriously suggesting he should be muzzled in public?! He's also a working gundig, bred to be very soft mouthed, how much damage would he inflict in the exceptionally unlikely event he did turn?
Some real horsest & personal vendettas being spouted on this thread.
I think you have to accept that some people just don't like dogs. Luckily for me, people who've met mine seem to like them.

J4CKO

Original Poster:

41,676 posts

201 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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lord trumpton said:
This topic is a fking Joke - all the dog lovers quoting stuff like 'most dogs' are not aggressive.

No matter what the probability is, the dogs mind is unable to be read, the dog can;t communicate it's intentions owners can't guarantee their beloved dog wont one day turn nasty.

People can quote all the statistics they like about cars, being hit by lightening etc. It's been demonstrated time and time again that a normally placid dog had turned on a child.

Why do people wear seat belts? Because if the worst were to happen then they offer a degree of protection.

Dog's should be muzzled when out and about - because there is a possibility that a dog may harm exists; then it should be prevented.

Don't even get me started on dog stting and throwing dogst bags into the bushes.

I'm not afraid of dogs as others have suggested - it just irritates me that owners are too narrow minded to consider their lovely little st machines have the possibility to harm

ETA - FAO dog owners - your homes DO smell of dog to the non dog fanatic. It's a an awful smell too

Edited by lord trumpton on Wednesday 13th January 21:23
It is kind of like the cyclists and "road tax" argument though, can go on about it as much as you want, it will never happen, I agree that any animal has potential to harm, but it is very low risk, are we really going to muzzle Chihuahuas, Yorkshire terriers and stzus ? how about cats and foxes, they are kind of dog like, badgers, they are bitey, Squirells, been bitten by one of those myself.

You dont like dogs, I get it, it is optional and I agree on cleaning up dog st and the pointlessness of cleaning it up and festooning bushes with them, the smell of dog, depends how big, how clean etc and to be honest I dont mind it, like most dog owners the smell of clean dog isnt offensive.

No point in ranting at dog owners about muzzling, we dont actually make the laws, if it was mandated, then we would have to do it but it isnt happening is it, when I go out my general list of worries doesnt really involve being attacked by a dog, especially if I dont have a dog with me, the Corsa that nearly hit me (and the dog) whilst walking a few weeks back wasnt driven by a dog, I dont fear for my safety in Manchester at night from Dogs, people are generally the problem, sometimes people have dogs

Autopilot

1,301 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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I wonder if muzzling a dog could actually cause it to feel vulnerable, anxious and therefore introduce aggression problems that didn't previously exist?

R8VXF

6,788 posts

116 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Autopilot said:
I wonder if muzzling a dog could actually cause it to feel vulnerable, anxious and therefore introduce aggression problems that didn't previously exist?
Wouldn't be surprised if it did, just the same as being on a lead can.

Trumpton, you obviously live in a stty neighbourhood surrounded by chavvy dog owners who cannot control their dogs and do not clean their dogs. It is ok, we forgive you, it is not your fault you have not done well in life.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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LordHaveMurci said:
My spaniel passed assessment for PAT dog by people who know far more than me, are you seriously suggesting he should be muzzled in public?! He's also a working gundig, bred to be very soft mouthed, how much damage would he inflict in the exceptionally unlikely event he did turn?
Some real horsest & personal vendettas being spouted on this thread.
But I don't need a gun licence, I am a good driver....

It is NOT about your dog is it ?? may be you could think a little "bigger picture"

get me that parrot


Btw....As a dog owner who thinks they should be muzzled in public, I also lead/muzzle my dogs when in public even if they walk to heal perfectly. That is IMHO the respectful thing to do as an owner


Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 13th January 22:18

R8VXF

6,788 posts

116 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
But I don't need a gun licence, I am a good driver....

It is NOT about your dog is it ?? may be you could think a little "bigger picture"

get me that parrot
But it is about his dog when people call for all dogs to be muzzled in public. I think you deserve that parrot wink

LordHaveMurci

12,046 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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R8VXF said:
Stickyfinger said:
But I don't need a gun licence, I am a good driver....

It is NOT about your dog is it ?? may be you could think a little "bigger picture"

get me that parrot
But it is about his dog when people call for all dogs to be muzzled in public. I think you deserve that parrot wink
Not just me then!

And it's heel, not heal wink

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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R8VXF said:
But it is about his dog when people call for all dogs to be muzzled in public. I think you deserve that parrot wink
Want a parrot ? ....it is about the victims/potential victims of the dogs that do (very few) attack, it IS NOT about the dogs...they are dogs ffs

LordHaveMurci said:
Not just me then!

And it's heel, not heal wink
well done you just won a peanut, enjoy


Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 13th January 22:22

LordHaveMurci

12,046 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
well done you just won a peanut, enjoy


Edited by Stickyfinger on Wednesday 13th January 22:22
Ironic, you're the monkey yet I won the peanut wink

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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LordHaveMurci said:
Ironic, you're the monkey yet I won the peanut wink
so clever! you need to congratulate your trainer he did a good job.

dfen5

2,398 posts

213 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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What a roller coaster of a thread. Laughter, sadness and anger.

Working dogs are one thing, I've been around farm dogs for years. They have a purpose, a bit like us getting up for work or whatever in the morning.

Dogs as pets are just a massive bind and what puzzles me is why dog owners think a few walks and a bowl of food is a life a dog wants. Really? I bet most pet dogs are bored stiff most if the time. Dogs in houses, on settees, beds and so on, nope.

Fighting off a dog? Good luck, you'll need it. A make shift weapon? Steel Parker biro, keep one handy. Just don't chew it after it's been up the dog's arse..


poo at Paul's

14,162 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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It sounds like a nightmare, but surely in a 5 minute attack,, with people bringing golf clubs to the fight, someone should have thought to get a large kitchen knife and sort it with that?

Gory and unpleasant as it may be, plunged into the abdomen, or side of the neck, and surely it would give up quite quickly?

As I say, it is the things of nightmares, and I am sure these guys were incredibly brave and did their best. My hat's off to them and best wishes to them and the woman in their recovery.

otolith

56,306 posts

205 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Cost of everything and value of nothing. Dogs are lovely, life enhancing things.

lord trumpton

7,425 posts

127 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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LordHaveMurci said:
lord trumpton said:
This topic is a fking Joke - all the dog lovers quoting stuff like 'most dogs' are not aggressive.

No matter what the probability is, the dogs mind is unable to be read, the dog can;t communicate it's intentions owners can't guarantee their beloved dog wont one day turn nasty.

People can quote all the statistics they like about cars, being hit by lightening etc. It's been demonstrated time and time again that a normally placid dog had turned on a child.

Why do people wear seat belts? Because if the worst were to happen then they offer a degree of protection.

Dog's should be muzzled when out and about - because there is a possibility that a dog may harm exists; then it should be prevented.

Don't even get me started on dog stting and throwing dogst bags into the bushes.

I'm not afraid of dogs as others have suggested - it just irritates me that owners are too narrow minded to consider their lovely little st machines have the possibility to harm
My spaniel passed assessment for PAT dog by people who know far more than me, are you seriously suggesting he should be muzzled in public?! He's also a working gundig, bred to be very soft mouthed, how much damage would he inflict in the exceptionally unlikely event he did turn?
Some real horsest & personal vendettas being spouted on this thread.
What about driving instructors and IAM motorists - they have enhanced driving skills; should they be exempt from wearing a seatbelt then smile

A spaniel, pitpull, yorkshire terrier etc all can chew up a face if they get spooked or turn for a reason wink

J4CKO

Original Poster:

41,676 posts

201 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Perhaps Terriers should be renamed "Terrierists" then ?


Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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This thread provides unending amusement from the number of heroes (in their fantasy worlds) who would pull apart the dog's chest, cut off its head, stab it to death, stick things up its bum or pull its rear legs. Each of you would end up with the dog biting your face off or make things worse for the person being attacked.

J4CKO

Original Poster:

41,676 posts

201 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Zod said:
This thread provides unending amusement from the number of heroes (in their fantasy worlds) who would pull apart the dog's chest, cut off its head, stab it to death, stick things up its bum or pull its rear legs. Each of you would end up with the dog biting your face off or make things worse for the person being attacked.
Really, whats the procedure then, wait until its finished and give it a Bonio ?

I am sure if even a large, powerful dog has hold of someone and isnt letting go, with the right weapon it is possible to disable or kill it, using fists or a stick wont work but something sharp would work if you are prepared to attack it with maximum prejudice whilst its mouth is full, would need to make it count and there is huge opportunity to get mauled by a big dog with a Breadknife embedded in its back that you have just distracted from mauling someone else.

As for getting one off that is attached to you, unlikely, probably just have to rely on appealing to its better nature.

PHCorvette

1,761 posts

103 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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I love dogs but certain breeds need to go, Pit Bulls at the top of that list.