Pit Bull attack, what would you do ?

[Stickyfinger]

imagineifyeswill said:

if it doesnt want to go somewhere plants all four legs out slightly angled and you will pull her harness or collar right off over her head without moving her, she then about turns and runs straight home.

Great, a well trained dog ! maybe it will decide that it wants to attack at some point because some kid gets in its way when running home .

[Terminator X]

A bit grim perhaps but poke it in the eye, can't imagine it would hang around too long after that?

TX.

[lord trumpton]

Rollin said:

lord trumpton said:

I would have rushed into the house, got a breadknife and cut off the dogs head

All casual like?

I used to have a little Jack Russell before the children were born.

One day a poor, emaciated brindle staff wandered up our driveway. It could hardly walk. It had fur patches missing, blisters around its arse and an old piece of rope round it's neck.

We live in a rural area and despite being popular with dog walkers, it's not uncommon for people to dump unwanted dogs.

Anyway we took it in, and nursed it to full health, vets etc etc. It was a bh staff. Our Jack Russell with a temper like a hungover monster started to try and assert his authority. As the Staff grew stronger and became well, the playful snarls and the odd wrestle became more serious. After a few serious fights we decided we would have to re home the Staff.

Anyway.... getting back on track just before we found an owner; the two were playing in our back garden, messing around chasing a ball when the staff turned on our Jack Russell and the most frightening fight Ive seen broke out. It was horrific. The Staff had locked onto the Jack Russells throat and the Jack Russell had locked onto the staffs head and eye.

I tried to intervene by stupidly putting my hands in their jaws to release their grip and got my hand ripped. Wife was screaming.
I resulted to booting the staff as it was causing real harm to the Jack Russell. It did't flinch.

After much trying I got a brush handle and managed to jam it between its jaws and pushed it down its throat and it let go.

Wife snatched the JR who was bleeding badly and I pushed the Staff back against the gate, broom still in its mouth and then my wife managed to collar it to the gate and we left it until it had calmed down.

Looking back I just did what I had to and had no idea what I was doing or what would work.

Since then both dogs have gone as we have children and I have somewhat of a phobia of a dog attacking my children when we are out walking as a family.

If I saw the said dog chewing that lady's hand then I wouldn't mess about again. I'd get out a knife, approach from behind and do my best to cut its throat and keep going until it stopped or I had cut is head off. Not trying to sound like a hardman but with a pitbull then it would need something like that imho

[eskidavies]

imagineifyeswill said:

Thats a Staffordshire Bull Terrier by nature the most placid affectionate little animals you can get but very intelligent and easily trained to be wild by the wrong owners. My 8 year old bh Mia is the most docile little dog you would ever come acros and loves children,great with people other dogs cats etc, but weighs about 25 to 30kgs and if it doesnt want to go somewhere plants all four legs out slightly angled and you will pull her harness or collar right off over her head without moving her, she then about turns and runs straight home.

i know how loving and docile they can be ,I'm looking at one now lying on my feet

[LordHaveMurci]

Bull breeds are bred to have very high pain tolerance, they were originally bred to bring down cattle & hold it until their master arrived, regardless of how much damage they sustained.

They are also very powerful & have high bite strength. In short, you'd be very lucky to fight one off.

In their defence, they really can be the softest most loving creatures you'll ever meet, honestly! Sadly, as said above, they are chosen as Council estate status dogs which does them no favours.

[mickk]

eskidavies said:

i know how loving and docile they can be ,I'm looking at one now lying on my feet

Keep a knive with you at all times.

[anonymous-user]

PorkInsider said:

Before I looked at the photos of the area where the attack took place, I already had an image in my mind. It wasn't far wrong.

The north?

[northwest monkey]

Impasse said:

I "think" they meant the golf clubs were used to attempt to pry the jaws apart. I may be wrong or course, but I struggle to understand how such an animal would survive being beaten repeatedly with such a severity that the shafts of the clubs broke. Obviously though, this is outside of my area of expertise of both sporting goods and veterinary skills.

Golf clubs are surprisingly easy to break. My old boss found this out when he asked me if I'd like to have a go at hitting some balls. In my defence, the 2 I broke did look old & being on the driving range at the Belfry the ground was pretty hard. Probably about the same hardness as a dogs head by the sound of it.

[softtop]

red_slr said:

On the plus side I have never known the fire extinguisher method fail.

I have.

A Staffie has hold of another dog and someone sprayed a fire extinguisher at its face, it did not care, they also stuck a brush up its backside and that did nothing. When it let go it walked off quite happily with the brush still there. I wished I had done something now instead of just watching but you do tend to stare in either shock or bewilderment.

[funkyrobot]

softtop said:

I have.

A Staffie has hold of another dog and someone sprayed a fire extinguisher at its face, it did not care, they also stuck a brush up its backside and that did nothing. When it let go it walked off quite happily with the brush still there. I wished I had done something now instead of just watching but you do tend to stare in either shock or bewilderment.

Terrible, terrible news.

However (and I'm so sorry for this), that image of the dog just trundling off with a brush up the arse has made me giggle.

[red_slr]

softtop said:

red_slr said:

On the plus side I have never known the fire extinguisher method fail.

I have.

A Staffie has hold of another dog and someone sprayed a fire extinguisher at its face, it did not care, they also stuck a brush up its backside and that did nothing. When it let go it walked off quite happily with the brush still there. I wished I had done something now instead of just watching but you do tend to stare in either shock or bewilderment.

Unlucky then. Your second option in that situation is to hit it with it - ideally on the back to try and break the spine.
I would always try the collar twist first if it has one - but you have to know what you are doing.

As the bloke above posted about the lab attack, until you have had to try and fight a dog you really don't understand how strong they are and just how little they feel pain if needed. You have to disrupt their CNS some way - because pain generally does not work - its like when humans are high on PCP or meth they will just carry on fighting with broken arms or legs and wont even know.

FWIW I have seen the best dog handlers end up with 50+ stitches and they are doing this stuff day in day out.

[dave_s13]

I had a similar experience to one already posted. Already had a dog, a smallish white and tan non description mongrel of no discernable flavour, soft as a brush he was. We'd had him for 8 years then someone we knew needed a home for a springer spaniel, he was gorgeous, lovely temperament and looked like a perfect springer.

So we took him in and all was well for a few weeks, Pete (mongrel) and Steve (staffy) got on fine, they would play fetch together, sleep on top of each other etc. Then completely out of the bkue, with zero prior warning Steve just launched himself at Pete and they had a full on scrap, I had to repeatedly punch Steve as hard as I could in the back of the neck to get him off Pete. It really shakes you up.

This happened two more times over the few months, completely random. Anyway, with a new baby on the way, and for Petes sake, Steve was rehomed.

In my experience, in full attack mode dogs don't feel pain, say the unthinkable happened and a dog got hold of me/my kids out on the Street then I'd try and get someone to fetch me a kitchen knife and I'd just keep stabbing u ntil it bled to death.

Edited by dave_s13 on Monday 11th January 09:16

[Adam B]

Trumpton and Dave s13 - were they re-housed or put down? do you think they were only dangerous when housed with another dog?

Edited by Adam B on Monday 11th January 10:02

[durbster]

The advice I was given was to grab the back legs and pull. They need them for stability so are forced to release to see what's going on if nothing else. Anything involving the biting end is going to give you massive injuries (including trying to cut off its head, I should think). They are much, much faster and probably more single-minded than you.

From experience of my own Staffy pinning me down and attempting to lick me to death, I've found an arm across her chest is the best way to keep her tongue out of my mouth.

Edit: Btw, can we stop saying this dog was a Staffy. It was a Pit Bull.

Edited by durbster on Monday 11th January 09:58

[R8VXF]

All responsible pitbull owners in the US carry a break stick for this eventuality as it is the quickest and safest method of getting the dog to release its grip: http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html

[Stickyfinger]

responsible pitbull owners........................hahahahahaha [sad face really]

[funkyrobot]

R8VXF said:

All responsible pitbull owners in the US carry a break stick for this eventuality as it is the quickest and safest method of getting the dog to release its grip: http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html

As it's the US, I thought they would be equipped with something like this:

[RJO]

I once asked a fellow who worked for a government agency, where he sometimes had to raid houses, what they did if confronted by guard dogs. He said they used pepper spray.
Don't know how it would work with an enraged dog, but they do have a sensitive sinus.
Other than that, a good sharp axe might be a good option, as few of you guys have firearms.

[Stickyfinger]

funkyrobot said:

As it's the US, I thought they would be equipped with something like this:

Boys will be boys

[funkyrobot]

Stickyfinger said:

funkyrobot said:

As it's the US, I thought they would be equipped with something like this:

Boys will be boys

Is your username the result of trying to subdue an angry dog?