Pit Bull attack, what would you do ?

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Autopilot said:

J4CKO said:

Get it a hot water bottle and a mug of Cocoa as well

But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.

Chocolate can apparently be deadly for dogs, so if offering to make it a nice poisonous Chocolate drink stops it eating your face then I'd say get the kettle on!

Thats is true, I am going to carry a bar of Bournville in case of being attacked by a dog, that said, have heard about dogs eating vast amounts of confectionary and surviving, like the one where a fairly big dog nailed an entire tub of Quality Street including wrappers, with no ill effects apart from very sparkly, festive turds.

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lord trumpton said:

This topic is a fking Joke - all the dog lovers quoting stuff like 'most dogs' are not aggressive.

No matter what the probability is, the dogs mind is unable to be read, the dog can;t communicate it's intentions owners can't guarantee their beloved dog wont one day turn nasty.

People can quote all the statistics they like about cars, being hit by lightening etc. It's been demonstrated time and time again that a normally placid dog had turned on a child.

Why do people wear seat belts? Because if the worst were to happen then they offer a degree of protection.

Dog's should be muzzled when out and about - because there is a possibility that a dog may harm exists; then it should be prevented.

Don't even get me started on dog stting and throwing dogst bags into the bushes.

I'm not afraid of dogs as others have suggested - it just irritates me that owners are too narrow minded to consider their lovely little st machines have the possibility to harm

ETA - FAO dog owners - your homes DO smell of dog to the non dog fanatic. It's a an awful smell too

Edited by lord trumpton on Wednesday 13th January 21:23

It is kind of like the cyclists and "road tax" argument though, can go on about it as much as you want, it will never happen, I agree that any animal has potential to harm, but it is very low risk, are we really going to muzzle Chihuahuas, Yorkshire terriers and stzus ? how about cats and foxes, they are kind of dog like, badgers, they are bitey, Squirells, been bitten by one of those myself.

You dont like dogs, I get it, it is optional and I agree on cleaning up dog st and the pointlessness of cleaning it up and festooning bushes with them, the smell of dog, depends how big, how clean etc and to be honest I dont mind it, like most dog owners the smell of clean dog isnt offensive.

No point in ranting at dog owners about muzzling, we dont actually make the laws, if it was mandated, then we would have to do it but it isnt happening is it, when I go out my general list of worries doesnt really involve being attacked by a dog, especially if I dont have a dog with me, the Corsa that nearly hit me (and the dog) whilst walking a few weeks back wasnt driven by a dog, I dont fear for my safety in Manchester at night from Dogs, people are generally the problem, sometimes people have dogs

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Perhaps Terriers should be renamed "Terrierists" then ?

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Zod said:

This thread provides unending amusement from the number of heroes (in their fantasy worlds) who would pull apart the dog's chest, cut off its head, stab it to death, stick things up its bum or pull its rear legs. Each of you would end up with the dog biting your face off or make things worse for the person being attacked.

Really, whats the procedure then, wait until its finished and give it a Bonio ?

I am sure if even a large, powerful dog has hold of someone and isnt letting go, with the right weapon it is possible to disable or kill it, using fists or a stick wont work but something sharp would work if you are prepared to attack it with maximum prejudice whilst its mouth is full, would need to make it count and there is huge opportunity to get mauled by a big dog with a Breadknife embedded in its back that you have just distracted from mauling someone else.

As for getting one off that is attached to you, unlikely, probably just have to rely on appealing to its better nature.

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PorkInsider said:

Zod said:

PorkInsider said:

I suggested stabbing it with a big knife, if available, but you've dismissed that as well.

So what's your preferred solution?

The overwhelming probability if you don't stab the victim or cut yourself is that it would simply enrage the dog. How likely are you to penetrate the heart of a writhing dog?

Very unlikely indeed

But what's the alternative? What do you suggest?

I think stabbing a writing and enraged dog would be reasonably effective, not easy but its only flesh, it may take a little while to work though, which is the critical bit along with avoiding hitting bone and just cutting it.

I suppose its a very unlikely scenario for most of us who dont live in houses with a Pitbull in residence, usually owned by an uncle in a lot of the incidents.

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My worst injury from an animal was from a cat, as a kid in a carpet shop of all places, fker was hiding on a roll of carpet and swiped at me and caught my ear, causing a bit of a cut which bled profusely, my dad went to grab it but it moved so he yanked the roll of carpet and it fell out of its hiding place, at which point he disembowelled it with a carpet knife, the last bit is a bit hazy though.

Who the hell has a trained feline assassin in an independent carpet shop, its funny, every time I go in a carpet shop I am scanning the rolls of axminster for ninja Moggies.

Maybe thats the answer for a Pitbull, dogs st out usually when an angry cat is involved, so carry a decent sized tabby in case of Pitbull attacks.

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so called said:

Christmas 2014 our Bulldog and Huskey/Malamute had a set to. Not the first but by far the worst.
As I held back the Bulldog and my daughter the HM, somehow I ended up on one knee and the Bulldog in its rage decided that my leg must belong to the HM.
It took me quite a few seconds to get his teeth out of my thigh at which point it realized its mistake and complete recovered from its red mist.
Apart from the fact that certain breeds have very powerful jaw muscles, I would not like to be the actual target of a raged dog of that type.

The flesh on my thigh was torn and, shall we say, a bit of a mess.
On the positive side and as pointed out by the nurse, responding to my flinching as she cleaned me up, a couple more inches up and to the right and I would have been smarting even more. Every cloud and all that.

Get a Chihuahua and a Yorkie next time, smaller bites and only to the shin.

What have you done with them long term, do you keep them separate of have they been to Acas or something ?

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funkyrobot said:

dave_s13 said:

Do we have any vets on PH?



It looks like the main aortic vessel is well protected by the spine and the brachial/femoral arteries look tricky (using human anatomy as reference terms). Jugular looks doable though.

So, using science, I would suggest, get a 3-6" blade of some description, or maybe even a car key held in the palm with the blade through the finger, and repeatedly stab the fker in the anteriolateral side of the neck until it starts bleeding to death. Or, if possible hit it as hard as you possibly can with a heavy blunt instrument on the top of the spine, just forward of the rear legs where the vertebrae are smaller, to try and disrupt the spinal cord and knock out the rear legs, that might wake it up.

If you have keyless entry though, you are doomed.

Based on that, I guess fingering the arse will achieve nothing?

An entry on the Sex offenders register ?

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funkyrobot said:

J4CKO said:

funkyrobot said:

dave_s13 said:

Do we have any vets on PH?



It looks like the main aortic vessel is well protected by the spine and the brachial/femoral arteries look tricky (using human anatomy as reference terms). Jugular looks doable though.

So, using science, I would suggest, get a 3-6" blade of some description, or maybe even a car key held in the palm with the blade through the finger, and repeatedly stab the fker in the anteriolateral side of the neck until it starts bleeding to death. Or, if possible hit it as hard as you possibly can with a heavy blunt instrument on the top of the spine, just forward of the rear legs where the vertebrae are smaller, to try and disrupt the spinal cord and knock out the rear legs, that might wake it up.

If you have keyless entry though, you are doomed.

Based on that, I guess fingering the arse will achieve nothing?

An entry on the Sex offenders register ?

Only if the dog is offended.

if not, you get a friend for life

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I am going to have nightmares about translucent dogs now.

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so called said:

J4CKO said:

so called said:

Christmas 2014 our Bulldog and Huskey/Malamute had a set to. Not the first but by far the worst.
As I held back the Bulldog and my daughter the HM, somehow I ended up on one knee and the Bulldog in its rage decided that my leg must belong to the HM.
It took me quite a few seconds to get his teeth out of my thigh at which point it realized its mistake and complete recovered from its red mist.
Apart from the fact that certain breeds have very powerful jaw muscles, I would not like to be the actual target of a raged dog of that type.

The flesh on my thigh was torn and, shall we say, a bit of a mess.
On the positive side and as pointed out by the nurse, responding to my flinching as she cleaned me up, a couple more inches up and to the right and I would have been smarting even more. Every cloud and all that.

Get a Chihuahua and a Yorkie next time, smaller bites and only to the shin.

What have you done with them long term, do you keep them separate of have they been to Acas or something ?

The bite incident was 29th Dec 2014. Following that, several more set too's occurred which all seemed to worse than the last.
We decided that before one of the family or oe of the dogs got seriously hurt, we need to separate them.
As the HM was basically bought as a therapy dog form my daughter, it meant that George the Bulldog had to go
We gave him to family friends where he is now the center of their family and is adored.
We miss him but they send us regular video's and photo's.

Sounds like a good outcome, difficult but better than a lot of the alternatives, a couple of people I know have had silar problems, one has two small dogs, one being a JRT and cant remember the other, they were fine for ages together and now tear each other to shreds at any opportunity, and another that had two of the same breed, fine for years then one tears the others ear off.

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Stickyfinger said:

R8VXF said:

Because only Pit Bulls attack humans: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6872448/... (Pictures are probably not safe for life if you are squeamish )

ZERO people saying that

The thread was using a Pitbull as an example, but the Husky and similar seems to have claimed its fair share of attacks, in the list of fatalities in the US it was like 50 percent PBT, then Husky/Spitz type breeds seemed to be 20 odd percent, then a weird mixture, including one Manchester Terrier.

I suppose it isnt that any breed is specifically the most aggressive, its the consequences when they do let rip, a Chihuahua might make your finger bleed but a PBT or Husky has so much more capability to do damage, we had a Chihuahua, he was a little , loved my mum, hated most men, tolerated my dad but you couldnt have a big dog with that temperament, he was funny, didnt really ever do any damage despite being very very agressive but you couldnt let kids near him.

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woowahwoo said:

J4CKO said:

Stickyfinger said:

R8VXF said:

Because only Pit Bulls attack humans: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/6872448/... (Pictures are probably not safe for life if you are squeamish )

ZERO people saying that

The thread was using a Pitbull as an example, but the Husky and similar seems to have claimed its fair share of attacks, in the list of fatalities in the US it was like 50 percent PBT, then Husky/Spitz type breeds seemed to be 20 odd percent, then a weird mixture, including one Manchester Terrier.

I suppose it isnt that any breed is specifically the most aggressive, its the consequences when they do let rip, a Chihuahua might make your finger bleed but a PBT or Husky has so much more capability to do damage, we had a Chihuahua, he was a little , loved my mum, hated most men, tolerated my dad but you couldnt have a big dog with that temperament, he was funny, didnt really ever do any damage despite being very very agressive but you couldnt let kids near him.

The Shar Pei has become fashionable, and so that is appearing amongst incidents. It's odd-cutesy-ugly appearance belies the fact it doesn't appear, in most cases, to have a temperament suited to the role of a family dog.

The much-maligned bull breeds, most notably Staffordshires and their mixes, are so often happiest amongst people and especially children - the Staff nicknamed the 'nanny' dog for his reason. Owners know this, dog rescue centres know this, even breed organisations are happy to claim this ( http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/services/public/br... ). But, yet again, between the underclass who mistreat, the shock-bks media, and the rest of the blob happy to ignorantly lap up the headline sensation to enforce any prejudice, the evidence and the pragmatic perspective are both ignored. Perhaps, it's all part of a pattern of policies of banning and signalling?

I love Staffies, but I do tend to keep my dog away from them as he is a bit over friendly and Staffs usually ignore other dogs as if invisible but will sometimes react badly to other dogs if they get in their face, but I do agree people like to demonise them, if it were a more middle class choice than the underclass you mention, I dont think it would have the reputation it has now, or at least no worse than other breeds kind of similar to what idiots did to the image of the Impreza.

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TheJimi said:

Probably displaying some startling naivety here but this thread had been an eye-opener for me.

I didn't think dogs were as tough as they're being variously described here.

Jeez!

We have a little Terrier Cross thing called Rambo, he is only small but has the heart of a Lion, except when someone blows down a cardboard tube, then he sts himself and hides, however, when my kids play football in the garden with their mates, he joins in, a 14 pound dog vs a regulation football that weighs a pound, travelling at speed.

Anyway, have seen him hit by it, like me being hit by a 15 pound weight at speed and him utterly clattered by it, knocked way backwards, flipped over and does he stop to roll on the floor clutching his leg (if he could) like Ronaldo, no he just gets back up and carries on, totally focused on the ball as long as he has use of at least two of his legs and is still conscious, Dogs just get on with it, if I got hit by a 15 pound weight at speed I would probably have a week off.


Dogs are like Terminators, the wont stop, unless of course food is involved.