Wife pregnant with twins..
Discussion
Soov535 said:
SpeckledJim said:
milner993 said:
The wife however still needs some convincing about changing the pram to a cheaper one but she wants the bugaboo donkey and I want to save £1000 but I'm sure to keep the peace I will surrender on this one.
Don't feel bad about this. You are performing a valuable public service.Without helpful chaps like you buying £1000 prams, two important things can't happen:
- Nobody can buy it from you for £200 in 2 years. Sad.
- The senior managers of Mamas & Papas won't get two months use of their 520d straight out of your pocket. Also sad.
Your wife is worried about other mums being sniffy about a second hand pram. After a few outings it won't be any different.
Tell her you're buying her a second hand one and you're having £400 each to spend on what YOU both want.
I say again, F CK SNOBBERY. It always costs, and never helps. Charity shops, ebay and gumtree are your friends in this.
Any tosser can spent a fortune on this exercise. Be smart.
The only expensive items we have bought new are the child seats as I wanted the security that they were 100% safe and hadn’t been in an accident or damaged in some way.
I agree F CK SNOBBERY il be covered in SH IT and piss to care about what people think.
OP - I have PMed you but I think the system is broken right now. If you're interested I have a fully functioning iCandy Apple parambulator with the 2 seat system in borderline perfect order if you might be interested in saving many hundreds of pounds.....Just bought a place in Cambs too so reasonably local I think.
catfood12 said:
We have twins. It's all we know, one at a time must be a piece of cake.
Hmmmph. Try triplets. It's all we know. It's not 3x the trouble/effort/work either, it's exponential. From 0-2 yrs was the hardest. On the plus side though, it's exponential in what you get back - they're smashing bairns I must admit. 7 in March.
E36GUY said:
OP - I have PMed you but I think the system is broken right now. If you're interested I have a fully functioning iCandy Apple parambulator with the 2 seat system in borderline perfect order if you might be interested in saving many hundreds of pounds.....Just bought a place in Cambs too so reasonably local I think.
Thank you for the offer but we wanted to stay away from prams that had the seats one on top of the other, I have heard from a few people I've spoken to in passing with twins that they ended up changing this type of pram due to arguments later on, who gets the top seat being the main complaint, I don’t know if you ever experienced that? Thank you once agian.There are specific bugaboo selling pages on Facebook. However, Bugaboo products tend not to devalue that much.
I would suggest you go to a large independent store and basically run a couple of prams around and see which you prefer. You also have to know what you will use the pram for i.e. walking the dog or just going to the supermarket or the school run etc. When test driving, even consider the "getting up the kerb" test. Because it is incredible how different they can be.
I have to say when I looked at the over and under, I thought the poor sod underneath basically looks at the bottom end of a pram, not much fun. The side by sides however are huuuuuge.
I would suggest you go to a large independent store and basically run a couple of prams around and see which you prefer. You also have to know what you will use the pram for i.e. walking the dog or just going to the supermarket or the school run etc. When test driving, even consider the "getting up the kerb" test. Because it is incredible how different they can be.
I have to say when I looked at the over and under, I thought the poor sod underneath basically looks at the bottom end of a pram, not much fun. The side by sides however are huuuuuge.
ali_kat said:
(one of the girls on the train is expecting her first soon & we're discussing a lot of stuff, this thread is useful - although like the morning conversations, it is putting me off the idea 
)
There's a thing I've heard this week - they don't want you to make bottles up, as the powder (once first opened) is not sterile. Bottles should be made up as & when they are needed... Water freshly drawn from the tap, filtered and then boiled & left to cool!
We decided expressing is the way forward (even if baby won't take to breast feeding) as you can even freeze that
No baby is going to wait around quietly for half an hour while you faff around half asleep in the night trying to make a bottle and get it cool enough for them.
As you say there is no time to wait for a bottle to cool down. Expressing may not be an option, it wasn't for us.) There's a thing I've heard this week - they don't want you to make bottles up, as the powder (once first opened) is not sterile. Bottles should be made up as & when they are needed... Water freshly drawn from the tap, filtered and then boiled & left to cool!
We decided expressing is the way forward (even if baby won't take to breast feeding) as you can even freeze that
No baby is going to wait around quietly for half an hour while you faff around half asleep in the night trying to make a bottle and get it cool enough for them.
I just sterilised the bottles, then filled them with freshly boiled water, then put them in the fridge.
At oh-my-god o'clock get the bottle, microwave it to the right temperature, then scoop in the milk. Quick stir and job done.
You'll hear a lot of "they say". Sometimes you need to ignore it and do what works for you.
essayer said:
You'll hear a lot of "they say". Sometimes you need to ignore it and do what works for you.
Agree with that. We're at the pointy end of 2bn years of succession. If a single one of your thousands of ancestors hadn't toughed their way through their infancy, with all the crazy things their parents were doing, there'd be no you.Babies are tough - you won't break one without doing something monumentally stupid.
Soov535 said:
Your wife is worried about other mums being sniffy about a second hand pram. After a few outings it won't be any different.
Tell her you're buying her a second hand one and you're having £400 each to spend on what YOU both want.
I say again, F CK SNOBBERY. It always costs, and never helps. Charity shops, ebay and gumtree are your friends in this.
Any tosser can spent a fortune on this exercise. Be smart.
I'm embarrassed to say I was the tosser that didn't even bother to argue it. I mildly handed over my credit card, drove her to Mamas and Papas and loaded the car smiling whilst inside thinking HOW MUCH
milner993 said:
Thank you for the offer but we wanted to stay away from prams that had the seats one on top of the other, I have heard from a few people I've spoken to in passing with twins that they ended up changing this type of pram due to arguments later on, who gets the top seat being the main complaint, I don’t know if you ever experienced that? Thank you once agian.
Congratulations - Great and exciting times for you both.We have Twin girls now 10 and a 3rd who is 7. As others have given some great advice on what to do when they are born and I cant add any more to that. I did end up sleeping in a tent in the garden for a bit (with wifes permission) for upto 7 days just to get some sleep so I could function at work.
The main area I would ask you to look into is to do with before and just after they are born and the medical side of things.
My wife almost died as did one of our twins just after birth. I had some military medical training as well as reading up on potential issues and when saw things were not right in the hospital and wife poorly I told them so, and told them again more forcefully until they acted.
Wife ended up in ICU and one twin in the equivalent baby unit and the other was ok. The twins were looked after very well but my wife wasn't until she was ICU.
Its a bit of a joke in Hospital that the Husband/man doesnt know anything and panics when the midwives/nurses know best and tell the man to calm down dear etc. If I had not looked up and research HELLP syndrome and then told them that what I think she had based upon her symptoms and stage of pregnancy/birth and they need to act, despite being poo pooed and told dont worry dear etc a few times I insisted they act she would have died.
So its not to scare anyone but just make sure you do some reading and are aware of the issues that can arise - you will be her main backup looking out for her.
Twins are great - you will get fed up with people in the street staring and saying silly comments about double trouble etc. We covered them up in the end when shopping to stop the attention or tell them their names, old English names...Frogmella and Wynetta............ they normally went away quickly after that
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I don't have twins, but eldest daughter is 4 this year, and the boy is nearly 5 months.
My partner can't breastfeed. We tried with Eva, but it wasn't happening. Again, we didnt recieve much advice on bottle feeding, and went through many brands of milk powder before finding one she liked. Then likewise with the bottles, went through avent, tommee tippee then back to avent iirc).
With the boy, we tried breastfeeding again, but nowt. So back on the bottles. Milk powder was easy as we just used what Eva had. Bottles, we are on the 3rd set now (anyone want 8 advent bottles or 8 tommee tippee bottles/teats/rings/caps? barely 2 weeks use...) and he seems to get on with it well.
We sterilize bottles 8 at a time, and fill them with water, but don't do the powder, that goes into powder pots. We haven't got one of those fancy prep machines. We sterilise at 9pm, he has a bottle at 10ish, then will go until 3ish. We put a toasty hot bottle in one of those keep warm bags you get with the feeding kit, and that is at the right temperature by 3. If bottles need warming during the day, we just make it up and put it in the warmer before changing nappy/clothes/bibbing up etc.
Colicy babies respond well to white noise. The boy was a s
t to get to sleep, so we played white noise through the tv/chromecast/youtube, and bang, asleep in 10 minutes. So I got an old android phone, converted an 8 hour white noise video to mp3 from youtube, copied to the phone, airplane mode on and it's his white noise maker, it sits in the moses basket with him!
Eva had reflux. This is fun. The baby will drink 6oz of milk, then bring 4.5oz straight back up... took a while to get over that one.
Unless you buy 60 (I'm not joking here) pairs of everything, they will wash/wear. We do 2 loads a day (lights and darks, she likes to seperate), and a babygro can be worn and sicked on 3-4 times a week... It's not abnormal to have 5 changes of clothes a day.
He/she will be happy and smiley after a feed, but need a bum change. You gingerly lift him/her up to the change table/down to the floor, carefully start unbuttoning stuff and boom, sick will cascade out of their mouth, onto their clean clothes, followed by a smile...
Time will fly though! Have fun, 2 at once, fk that!
My partner can't breastfeed. We tried with Eva, but it wasn't happening. Again, we didnt recieve much advice on bottle feeding, and went through many brands of milk powder before finding one she liked. Then likewise with the bottles, went through avent, tommee tippee then back to avent iirc).
With the boy, we tried breastfeeding again, but nowt. So back on the bottles. Milk powder was easy as we just used what Eva had. Bottles, we are on the 3rd set now (anyone want 8 advent bottles or 8 tommee tippee bottles/teats/rings/caps? barely 2 weeks use...) and he seems to get on with it well.
We sterilize bottles 8 at a time, and fill them with water, but don't do the powder, that goes into powder pots. We haven't got one of those fancy prep machines. We sterilise at 9pm, he has a bottle at 10ish, then will go until 3ish. We put a toasty hot bottle in one of those keep warm bags you get with the feeding kit, and that is at the right temperature by 3. If bottles need warming during the day, we just make it up and put it in the warmer before changing nappy/clothes/bibbing up etc.
Colicy babies respond well to white noise. The boy was a s
t to get to sleep, so we played white noise through the tv/chromecast/youtube, and bang, asleep in 10 minutes. So I got an old android phone, converted an 8 hour white noise video to mp3 from youtube, copied to the phone, airplane mode on and it's his white noise maker, it sits in the moses basket with him!Eva had reflux. This is fun. The baby will drink 6oz of milk, then bring 4.5oz straight back up... took a while to get over that one.
Unless you buy 60 (I'm not joking here) pairs of everything, they will wash/wear. We do 2 loads a day (lights and darks, she likes to seperate), and a babygro can be worn and sicked on 3-4 times a week... It's not abnormal to have 5 changes of clothes a day.
He/she will be happy and smiley after a feed, but need a bum change. You gingerly lift him/her up to the change table/down to the floor, carefully start unbuttoning stuff and boom, sick will cascade out of their mouth, onto their clean clothes, followed by a smile...
Time will fly though! Have fun, 2 at once, f
k that!Without wishing to bring a downer on the thread if they are Monochorionic (ie share the same placenta) then please keep an eye out for signs of twin-to-twin transfusion. If you're in any doubt and the doctors tell you to stop worrying, punch them in the face repeatedly until they listen!
SBDJ said:
Without wishing to bring a downer on the thread if they are Monochorionic (ie share the same placenta) then please keep an eye out for signs of twin-to-twin transfusion. If you're in any doubt and the doctors tell you to stop worrying, punch them in the face repeatedly until they listen!
Monochorionic covers 66% of all identical twins. We went rarer... much rarer at 1% and had monoamniotic too. One is still in NICU at 6 months old (coming home soon thankfully, albeit with nursing care).SpeckledJim said:
Don't feel bad about this. You are performing a valuable public service.
Without helpful chaps like you buying £1000 prams, two important things can't happen:
Take the Donkey for a walk (pushchair... not the wife) and go through a door way with it...Without helpful chaps like you buying £1000 prams, two important things can't happen:
- Nobody can buy it from you for £200 in 2 years. Sad.
- The senior managers of Mamas & Papas won't get two months use of their 520d straight out of your pocket. Also sad.
On the plus side your wife won't be able to go into a lot of shops, so it could actually save you money in the long run!
Miocene said:
SBDJ said:
Without wishing to bring a downer on the thread if they are Monochorionic (ie share the same placenta) then please keep an eye out for signs of twin-to-twin transfusion. If you're in any doubt and the doctors tell you to stop worrying, punch them in the face repeatedly until they listen!
Monochorionic covers 66% of all identical twins. We went rarer... much rarer at 1% and had monoamniotic too. One is still in NICU at 6 months old (coming home soon thankfully, albeit with nursing care).Miocene said:
Monochorionic covers 66% of all identical twins. We went rarer... much rarer at 1% and had monoamniotic too. One is still in NICU at 6 months old (coming home soon thankfully, albeit with nursing care).
Glad to hear they are both OK My story is well documented on here but since the OP has confirmed this won't be a problem I won't go over it again!
essayer said:
ali_kat said:
(one of the girls on the train is expecting her first soon & we're discussing a lot of stuff, this thread is useful - although like the morning conversations, it is putting me off the idea )
There's a thing I've heard this week - they don't want you to make bottles up, as the powder (once first opened) is not sterile. Bottles should be made up as & when they are needed... Water freshly drawn from the tap, filtered and then boiled & left to cool!
We decided expressing is the way forward (even if baby won't take to breast feeding) as you can even freeze that
No baby is going to wait around quietly for half an hour while you faff around half asleep in the night trying to make a bottle and get it cool enough for them.
As you say there is no time to wait for a bottle to cool down. Expressing may not be an option, it wasn't for us.) There's a thing I've heard this week - they don't want you to make bottles up, as the powder (once first opened) is not sterile. Bottles should be made up as & when they are needed... Water freshly drawn from the tap, filtered and then boiled & left to cool!
We decided expressing is the way forward (even if baby won't take to breast feeding) as you can even freeze that
No baby is going to wait around quietly for half an hour while you faff around half asleep in the night trying to make a bottle and get it cool enough for them.
I just sterilised the bottles, then filled them with freshly boiled water, then put them in the fridge.
At oh-my-god o'clock get the bottle, microwave it to the right temperature, then scoop in the milk. Quick stir and job done.
You'll hear a lot of "they say". Sometimes you need to ignore it and do what works for you.
http://m.direct.asda.com/on/demandware.store/Sites...
Best £60 you will spend, press button for boiling water, add powder and mix, press button again, add top and shake and bottle done. It makes 3am feeds bearable!
milner993 said:
our twins are Dichorionic/Diamniotic : each twin has his/her own placenta, chorion and amniotic sac they may or may not be identical, we find out the sex on the 8th Feb but we wont know if identical until born if the same sex of course.
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