"On point"

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DonkeyApple

55,135 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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One of the truly great pleasures in working life comes when you start politely asking people who have just spewed out some buzz words to explain what they mean as if you haven't understood. It is genuinely funny and throws their sales pitch completely.

Another that I have only just started to do but seems to be quite rewarding is to say 'What?' every time someone says 'you know?'

I haven't the balls for this but a friend will randomly say 'west side' in answer to questions when in a meeting with buzz speakers. I've seen him do it once and had to leave to get coffees.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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"I've inboxed you". No, you massive stroker, you have sent me an email.

Speed addicted

5,573 posts

227 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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oyster said:
Why should it matter if phrases or words are used in alternative industries or scenarios to where they originated?
That's how language evolves. Always has done.

Is it wrong to say 'sleep tight' to someone about to go to bed on a divan bed?

Is it wrong to refer to a 'tank slapper' in a modern car?


Why is there this obsession on PH about non-literal use of language in the working environment?
It's wrong to use the term 'tank slapper' about any car. It's a motorbike thing where the castering effect of the front wheel gets totally out of control (usually at high speed) and you end up hitting the tank with the bars/hands.



DonkeyApple

55,135 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Speed addicted said:
oyster said:
Why should it matter if phrases or words are used in alternative industries or scenarios to where they originated?
That's how language evolves. Always has done.

Is it wrong to say 'sleep tight' to someone about to go to bed on a divan bed?

Is it wrong to refer to a 'tank slapper' in a modern car?


Why is there this obsession on PH about non-literal use of language in the working environment?
It's wrong to use the term 'tank slapper' about any car. It's a motorbike thing where the castering effect of the front wheel gets totally out of control (usually at high speed) and you end up hitting the tank with the bars/hands.
And yet when used in reference to a car, absolutely everyone knows instantly what experience you are referring to. So in that regard it definitely has merit in the different usage.

It's not exactly like 'awful' which people now use to mean terrible when it obviously means magnificent. Or naughty which people seem to think is acceptable to use as a term for bad behaviour when it is someone who has nothing.

People may think it 'awful' or 'naughty' to misappropriate words or phrases but in this instance it doesn't seem so 'silly' or 'egregious'. wink

Neil H

15,323 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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"On point" I assume is an Americanism that has infected us.

I heard some young British lad on TV recently casually refer to something/ someone as a "douche", he sounded like a right tit.

pbg2770 said:
- Work emails, starting with "Team,..... "
I do this. smile

Buzz word

2,028 posts

209 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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On point.... I'll raise you 'fleek'. Which to me sounds like we are living in Futurama.

Europa1

10,923 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Buzz word said:
On point.... I'll raise you 'fleek'. Which to me sounds like we are living in Futurama.
Ooooh, I'll have a can of Schlurm, please!

Adam B

27,206 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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"from the get-go" you can ps off back to America too

Johnniem

2,670 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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"Cheap at half the price" is a very commonly used phrase. Well of course it's fecking cheap at half the price!! It's half the bloody price! The actual phrase is, of course, cheap at twice the price. Movin' on.....

Rod200SX

8,087 posts

176 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
I haven't the balls for this but a friend will randomly say 'west side' in answer to questions when in a meeting with buzz speakers. I've seen him do it once and had to leave to get coffees.
If he yells doing a loud tupac impression I wouldn't be able to contain myself.

WEST SIIIIDE

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
I haven't the balls for this but a friend will randomly say 'west side' in answer to questions when in a meeting with buzz speakers. I've seen him do it once and had to leave to get coffees.
That's just made me actually laugh out.

Abbott

2,359 posts

203 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I offer you my daughters latest favourite comment "My bad" WTF

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Johnniem said:
"Cheap at half the price" is a very commonly used phrase. Well of course it's fecking cheap at half the price!! It's half the bloody price! The actual phrase is, of course, cheap at twice the price. Movin' on.....
Not correct (and I've never heard/seen anyone use "cheap at twice the price"). This originates from a few hundred years ago - aristocracy are of course assumed to have loads of money, so when they were actually poor they had to borrow money (a big sin for PHers as well); I'm not sure about lending back then, but certainly if they wanted to keep up appearances they borrowed from loan sharks, who were generally a bit scummy in the eyes of the aristos. They got gouged on the interest and were understandably not happy, so the insult aimed at the lender is "they would still be cheap [low class] if they charged half the price [interest]." I suppose it was a way of them retaining a perceived superiority over the lower class individual who now had a power over them through this debt.

The phrase has obviously been misappropriated since then, much like "begging the question".

DonkeyApple

55,135 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Rod200SX said:
DonkeyApple said:
I haven't the balls for this but a friend will randomly say 'west side' in answer to questions when in a meeting with buzz speakers. I've seen him do it once and had to leave to get coffees.
If he yells doing a loud tupac impression I wouldn't be able to contain myself.

WEST SIIIIDE
He has a typical Harrovian accent so it was said with absolutely no cultural reference, just a sagely nod of agreement.

vournikas

11,698 posts

204 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Speed addicted said:
oyster said:
Why should it matter if phrases or words are used in alternative industries or scenarios to where they originated?
That's how language evolves. Always has done.

Is it wrong to say 'sleep tight' to someone about to go to bed on a divan bed?

Is it wrong to refer to a 'tank slapper' in a modern car?


Why is there this obsession on PH about non-literal use of language in the working environment?
It's wrong to use the term 'tank slapper' about any car. It's a motorbike thing where the castering effect of the front wheel gets totally out of control (usually at high speed) and you end up hitting the tank with the bars/hands.
Indeed.

This is a tank-slapper, and is not a term to be trifled with:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiKmPFo6xNA

ETA : I should point out that Paul actually survived that crash with fairly minor injuries






Edited by vournikas on Friday 12th February 00:06

Johnspex

4,340 posts

184 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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A la, methinks,and 'they are a good car' which isn't even grammatically correct. All of those make me want to kick the cat.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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I can't stand the 'meeting expectation' thing.
Usually when a MD (too fking ignorant) wants something impossible done eg construct a building from bare site in 4 months, tells director (too fking ignorant AND scared of MD) to tell me to get it on site tomorrow. I say (nicely) it's impossible/too tight timescale/will cost 10x budget/there's not even a brief yet of what's wanted etc. What do I get?

'We have to manage the MD expectations'

What the tt means is he's st scared of giving MD reality, has been incapable of figuring out himself it's impossible, and wants to embark upon a corporate Charge Of The Light Brigade to which there is every likelihood of failure and that's then down to me. wkers.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Johnniem said:
"Cheap at half the price" is a very commonly used phrase. Well of course it's fecking cheap at half the price!! It's half the bloody price! The actual phrase is, of course, cheap at twice the price. Movin' on.....
"It's got two chances" as a comment on an either/or probability situation.

No. It has one.

CB2152

1,555 posts

133 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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On our work team group chat on Whatsapp messenger: "This is on peak".

I presume that's a good thing.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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CB2152 said:
On our work team group chat on Whatsapp messenger: "This is on peak".

I presume that's a good thing.
...meaning its just about to fail miserably?