CH4 to pay claimants £26K benefits in one annual lump sum.
Discussion
DSLiverpool said:
That cam belt fixed itself pretty quickly!
Do you reckon the show is not filmed in "real" time?
I couldn't believe he bought the car in that state. Surely he would have lifted the bonnet? I distinctly heard the dealer tell him it had just been serviced and presumably MOTd, but the belt must have been pretty frayed to snap in such a short distance. I hope he switched off smartish.
I feel the purchase of the Picasso was to placate the nagging wife, although she's got every right to have a go at him. He's an idiot. He still needs a van for the business.
northwest monkey said:
Very good point.
The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Every electrician I know charges £200-300 a day in labour costs, he could just pick up agency work on and off.The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
PAULJ5555 said:
northwest monkey said:
Very good point.
The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Every electrician I know charges £200-300 a day in labour costs, he could just pick up agency work on and off.The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
e21Mark said:
society is doing no favours by taking responsibility for such a large number of people, in paying them to simply exist and have no motivation to better themselves or foster ambition.
It's much worse than that, society is paying them to breed! (The route to benefits and housing is children - the more you have, the more you get). northwest monkey said:
I think a card payment system that could only be used to buy food is actually a good idea. For some people, having cash is very dangerous. Rather than having a budget for food, it burns a hole in the pocket & gets spent on fags, scratchcards & takeaways. Irresponsible for a single person - frightening if they have kids & believe me, it happens as I've seen it.
How you'd deal with utility bills and clothing is a difficult one.
They do this in the US by issuing food stamps, some States require that the claimant pass a drugs test each time they pick them up. However this has resulted in people selling on their food stamps for less than market value so they can buy drugs and other goods not covered by the stamps. I don't like the idea because it punishes the majority for minority behavior and most likely the minority will just work around the restriction instead. How you'd deal with utility bills and clothing is a difficult one.
I'd much rather the amount of benefits you can earn is proportional to the money you have put into the system. Not put anything in, don't get anything out. Obviously those truly incapable of never working would need an exception to the process. Don't take anything out of the system, then get more for your state pension at the end.
Laurel Green said:
PAULJ5555 said:
northwest monkey said:
Very good point.
The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Every electrician I know charges £200-300 a day in labour costs, he could just pick up agency work on and off.The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Laurel Green said:
PAULJ5555 said:
northwest monkey said:
Very good point.
The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Every electrician I know charges £200-300 a day in labour costs, he could just pick up agency work on and off.The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Or have we already had that show.
PAULJ5555 said:
Laurel Green said:
PAULJ5555 said:
northwest monkey said:
Very good point.
The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Every electrician I know charges £200-300 a day in labour costs, he could just pick up agency work on and off.The bloke who is buying up the contents of Gumtree is a qualified electrician apparently - why he doesn't work is beyond me as there is always a demand for electricians. He said something about having to pack in work because his son was disabled and needed both parents to care for him 24/7. Smells of bullit to me. He can't be an electrician, but can quite happily buger around with animals & bouncy castles...
Or have we already had that show.
I'm sending an email to C5 this afternoon suggesting the idea - they'll probably be well up for it. We could get some Z-listers involved and do a "Sleb" version on ITV2 as well.
I think the pet shop family are going (or have already) fail massively. His wife keeps moaning about him spending money but hasn't (unless it's been cut which is possible) stopped him.
The family doing the second hand business, heart is in the right place and you can see them thinking about things. However i don't think they'll succeed. I want them to though.
Female with the three kids seems the most switched on. Budgeting for six months and trying to get a job.
All three do seem to be trying for a better life which isn't what I was expecting to see.
The family doing the second hand business, heart is in the right place and you can see them thinking about things. However i don't think they'll succeed. I want them to though.
Female with the three kids seems the most switched on. Budgeting for six months and trying to get a job.
All three do seem to be trying for a better life which isn't what I was expecting to see.
Given that both the 2nd hand couple and single mum had an idea of the enormity of the bills they'd need paying despite them being on benefits long term was kind of shocking to hear that the "out of work" electrician thought 9 grand would see him through 9 months when he clearly has bigger outgoings (more mouths to feed inc the animals)
Not sure why he needs as much gear as he's got either, the amount he spends isn't really being broken down well either, the other lots are spending little enough it's easy to see where the moneys going but with him it just seems to vanish. Also what did he need an office for? Of all of them he's clearly figured if it all goes tits up then he's got something for nothing from the show, the other groups seem to be thinking a lot more about what to do.
That said I can imagine the end result is him being quiet successful while the experts rave about how he was willing to take risks when it's clear if it works it's as much down to luck as anything else.
Not sure why he needs as much gear as he's got either, the amount he spends isn't really being broken down well either, the other lots are spending little enough it's easy to see where the moneys going but with him it just seems to vanish. Also what did he need an office for? Of all of them he's clearly figured if it all goes tits up then he's got something for nothing from the show, the other groups seem to be thinking a lot more about what to do.
That said I can imagine the end result is him being quiet successful while the experts rave about how he was willing to take risks when it's clear if it works it's as much down to luck as anything else.
te mate would buy some cleaning products and give that filthy house a good going over with some of that cash .Party boy is either attempting to be shrewd, by buying loads of tat he can be left with, when the £26k is gone and he signs back on. I still can't see how his son's condition (whatever that is?) excuses him from working for a living? He certainly appears to be able to build the arc in his back garden without too much hassle. I also question how much income a bouncy castle and pop corn machine will actually bring in? It just feels like 'easy come, easy go' where he is concerned.
Eddie Large and his Mrs have surprised me the most. I guess I expected them to splash out more cash, whereas they've actually been pretty restrained. I do get the feeling they're quite a vulnerable couple though, so am pleased to see them getting guidance. They also seem to be more aware of their situation and the potential for failure, should they make frivolous, impulsive purchases. Mind you, it was a shock to realise that despite all their plans, he can't actually drive. That said, if he uses some of the cash for lessons and a test, he'll have a useful skill he didn't possess before. It was nice to see them get their hair cut and I doubt I've ever seen such happiness at the purchase of a vacuum cleaner! It's easy to sneer but I doubt their self worth and self esteem levels are very high. I really hope this experience is the making of them.
Single mum appears to have the right idea. He knows the cash won't last for ever and that this is probably his best opportunity to find a job. At least he's taken care of his immediate debts and budgeted to live for the next 6 months.
ETA
Eddie Large could rent his sloth of a son to Party Boy! Stick him in a cage with his mobile phone!
Eddie Large and his Mrs have surprised me the most. I guess I expected them to splash out more cash, whereas they've actually been pretty restrained. I do get the feeling they're quite a vulnerable couple though, so am pleased to see them getting guidance. They also seem to be more aware of their situation and the potential for failure, should they make frivolous, impulsive purchases. Mind you, it was a shock to realise that despite all their plans, he can't actually drive. That said, if he uses some of the cash for lessons and a test, he'll have a useful skill he didn't possess before. It was nice to see them get their hair cut and I doubt I've ever seen such happiness at the purchase of a vacuum cleaner! It's easy to sneer but I doubt their self worth and self esteem levels are very high. I really hope this experience is the making of them.
Single mum appears to have the right idea. He knows the cash won't last for ever and that this is probably his best opportunity to find a job. At least he's taken care of his immediate debts and budgeted to live for the next 6 months.
ETA
Eddie Large could rent his sloth of a son to Party Boy! Stick him in a cage with his mobile phone!
^great post e21mark.
My work brings me in contact with a lot of people in social housing so I've seen hundreds of people who are just playing the system. Eddie Large and his wife seem to be a genuinely nice couple that are just out of their depth. The way they were proper down when they realised how much their sun had spent on the playstation and how they reacted to the council tax bill showed how naive they are.
I agree how their son needs to sort himself out and get off his arse. There must be some sort of employment for him.
My work brings me in contact with a lot of people in social housing so I've seen hundreds of people who are just playing the system. Eddie Large and his wife seem to be a genuinely nice couple that are just out of their depth. The way they were proper down when they realised how much their sun had spent on the playstation and how they reacted to the council tax bill showed how naive they are.
I agree how their son needs to sort himself out and get off his arse. There must be some sort of employment for him.
nicanary said:
Yes, it's £16k. I retired recently, and applied for housing benefit to help pay the rent. I was declined because I had given my daughter about £20k earlier in the year as a house deposit. It's called notional capital. How the hell I'm supposed to get my hands on it I don't know.
Sorry. personal whine and OT. Except I now have about £20 per week to live on, after rent, utilities, car running costs etc.. It's a stupid system, unless you're one of those scumbags who know how to "play" it.
Whilst it's all very laudable that you want to support your daughter and give her a leg up in life, why exactly do you think the rest of us should pay for it?Sorry. personal whine and OT. Except I now have about £20 per week to live on, after rent, utilities, car running costs etc.. It's a stupid system, unless you're one of those scumbags who know how to "play" it.
The fact that you can give away £20k and then moan about the council refusing to pay your rent as though you've got some sort of God-given right to free housing quite frankly beggars belief.
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