CH4 to pay claimants £26K benefits in one annual lump sum.
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what no one gets is that the average "council" think that getting dole money is a god given right. from birth.
the concept of it being a safety net that assists, should you fall on hard times doesn't exist.
Of course immigrants are "taking all our money". You know the money you get "paid" on "payday" that you've never paid into a system to get.
Tax credits were the worse thing that a government invented- we never had it nor needed it before and now its just a handout for cars/holidays and so on.
free nursery places- well great if you work, but you get them on benefits. Are the parents seeking work and being active with their time ? No, its just free child care so the parents can catch up on Jeramy Kyle.
Living on the bread line, struggling with your finances ?
well obviously you need a house full of dogs, cats and exotic pets. Because they clearly cost nothing to feed and keep...........
Plus a sky subscription, an iphone 6 and Nigeria's debt to Brighthouse.......... because you couldn't possibly sit on a secondhand sofa or have a used fridge freezer/washer
I'll stop !
the concept of it being a safety net that assists, should you fall on hard times doesn't exist.
Of course immigrants are "taking all our money". You know the money you get "paid" on "payday" that you've never paid into a system to get.
Tax credits were the worse thing that a government invented- we never had it nor needed it before and now its just a handout for cars/holidays and so on.
free nursery places- well great if you work, but you get them on benefits. Are the parents seeking work and being active with their time ? No, its just free child care so the parents can catch up on Jeramy Kyle.
Living on the bread line, struggling with your finances ?
well obviously you need a house full of dogs, cats and exotic pets. Because they clearly cost nothing to feed and keep...........
Plus a sky subscription, an iphone 6 and Nigeria's debt to Brighthouse.......... because you couldn't possibly sit on a secondhand sofa or have a used fridge freezer/washer
I'll stop !
It'd be great if all claimants were investigated. However, to do so would require an army of extra staff which are a) unavailable, b) unaffordable, and c) would need another army to protect them in many areas. It's a pipe dream I often have. I'd love to see their faces when the flow of cash was stopped.
(OT - I used to repossess houses in Belfast. It was the early '80s and the Troubles were much reduced, but the RUC got p*ssed off when we repeatedly requested their presence. Anything less than an armed escort would have resulted in GBH at the minimum.)
(OT - I used to repossess houses in Belfast. It was the early '80s and the Troubles were much reduced, but the RUC got p*ssed off when we repeatedly requested their presence. Anything less than an armed escort would have resulted in GBH at the minimum.)
I'm seeing a number of people lose their mobility cars. Which is rather amusing. As trust me the recipients certainly never needed them to begin with.
Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
austinsmirk said:
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
From my observations when visiting retail parks, it would be beneficial to site the restricted parking as far as possible from the retail stores, thus ensuing these wallow-monsters receiving a modicum of exercise. austinsmirk said:
I'm seeing a number of people lose their mobility cars. Which is rather amusing. As trust me the recipients certainly never needed them to begin with.
Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
They're tightening things up. I just applied to renew my own blue badge and despite being in receipt of the mobility component of DLA and a previous badge holder, I am still waiting whilst they check things out. It took me 2 years to finally apply for my first badge. I was embarrassed I suppose? Even though I was in a wheel chair I didn't like the label 'disabled'. I walk with a stick nowadays. On good days I can walk 20 or so yards without it, or I can lean on a trolley and leave the stick behind. The worst thing about having a blue badge though, is the abuse I can get from some folk. It's got worse over the past couple of years and some people definitely seem to think it's a perk, something that it's not fair that I have and they don't. An assumption that I don't need it. Not really need it anyway. Just like my car 'isn't a car a disabled person should have'. I'm still unsure why that is? Able bodied people seem happier to use disabled parking bays now to. It's clear the whole system has been abused for years and something definitely needed to be done though. Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
austinsmirk said:
Plus a sky subscription, an iphone 6 and Nigeria's debt to Brighthouse.......... because you couldn't possibly sit on a secondhand sofa or have a used fridge freezer/washer
I'll stop !
Agree with this completely and for some bizarre reason, the less they have, the more they feel they're entitled to. For every Kayden or Lexxie they pop out, they have to have a brand new Bugaboo pram costing £12 per week (everything is weekly) over the next 3 years. The idea of saving up and buying a perfectly good second hand one for £30 is alien. Same goes for furniture, TV's, appliances etc.I'll stop !
If I've ever sold anything second-hand on Ebay, it tends to be "normal" people that turn up & take it away.
e21Mark said:
austinsmirk said:
I'm seeing a number of people lose their mobility cars. Which is rather amusing. As trust me the recipients certainly never needed them to begin with.
Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
They're tightening things up. I just applied to renew my own blue badge and despite being in receipt of the mobility component of DLA and a previous badge holder, I am still waiting whilst they check things out. It took me 2 years to finally apply for my first badge. I was embarrassed I suppose? Even though I was in a wheel chair I didn't like the label 'disabled'. I walk with a stick nowadays. On good days I can walk 20 or so yards without it, or I can lean on a trolley and leave the stick behind. The worst thing about having a blue badge though, is the abuse I can get from some folk. It's got worse over the past couple of years and some people definitely seem to think it's a perk, something that it's not fair that I have and they don't. An assumption that I don't need it. Not really need it anyway. Just like my car 'isn't a car a disabled person should have'. I'm still unsure why that is? Able bodied people seem happier to use disabled parking bays now to. It's clear the whole system has been abused for years and something definitely needed to be done though. Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
The Motability thing can be a bit shocking, the lady that used to come in to help my mate at lunchtime, her "partner" was one of the types Austin mentions, laid it on a bit thick and because he was fat, lazy and unhealthy got given a new Zafira, which got ruined doing car boot sales and being used for his other side businesses, he dissapeared off the scene when he tried fiddling with her daughter, obviously not all motability car users are like that, or its anything to do with it but it l3eft a nasty taste in my mouth about what I thought was a wonderful idea to that point, my mate has one and its an absolute lifeline, he cant drive so his wife has it but the other bloke, jesus, what a horrible creature he was.
J4CKO said:
e21Mark said:
austinsmirk said:
I'm seeing a number of people lose their mobility cars. Which is rather amusing. As trust me the recipients certainly never needed them to begin with.
Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
They're tightening things up. I just applied to renew my own blue badge and despite being in receipt of the mobility component of DLA and a previous badge holder, I am still waiting whilst they check things out. It took me 2 years to finally apply for my first badge. I was embarrassed I suppose? Even though I was in a wheel chair I didn't like the label 'disabled'. I walk with a stick nowadays. On good days I can walk 20 or so yards without it, or I can lean on a trolley and leave the stick behind. The worst thing about having a blue badge though, is the abuse I can get from some folk. It's got worse over the past couple of years and some people definitely seem to think it's a perk, something that it's not fair that I have and they don't. An assumption that I don't need it. Not really need it anyway. Just like my car 'isn't a car a disabled person should have'. I'm still unsure why that is? Able bodied people seem happier to use disabled parking bays now to. It's clear the whole system has been abused for years and something definitely needed to be done though. Here's a question then PH massive.
when did you ever see a person using blue badge parking, be it on double yellows or at a supermarket that really seemed to need it ?
I of course am not counting children/adults in wheelchairs and severely mobility impaired people.
But the shuffing, fag smoking fattie, wiv or wivout a dole pole is my general reference.
The Motability thing can be a bit shocking, the lady that used to come in to help my mate at lunchtime, her "partner" was one of the types Austin mentions, laid it on a bit thick and because he was fat, lazy and unhealthy got given a new Zafira, which got ruined doing car boot sales and being used for his other side businesses, he dissapeared off the scene when he tried fiddling with her daughter, obviously not all motability car users are like that, or its anything to do with it but it l3eft a nasty taste in my mouth about what I thought was a wonderful idea to that point, my mate has one and its an absolute lifeline, he cant drive so his wife has it but the other bloke, jesus, what a horrible creature he was.
I remember one of the few times I ever saw my Father cry was when he was forced to claim benefits after an accident at work, such was the stigma attached to signing on. Whilst no-one should feel shame for asking for help, the pendulum has swung too far the other way and far too many people appear to have seen exaggerated claims as being almost harmless. There are just too many people wanting to take, from a pot they've never contributed to. After my accident, I needed help and was given a council flat in Bristol. I was extremely grateful and it afforded me the base I needed to rebuild my life. Eventually, I reached a point where I could afford to move and rent myself a nicer place in London, so I gave my flat back to the council, reasoning that someone else in need, would then get help? I was told I was mad and that I should have just kept the flat. I just don't see that as acceptable though.
Yeah, its a safety net for everybody that gets abused, I have been lucky and have not needed it but its nice to know its there but it shouldnt be a lifestyle choice but the system does kind of foster it, my mates sister is a case in point, she has several kids by different fathers and one is slightly autistic so she manages to claim allsorts despite the kid actually managing quite fine, but she is just that type, no pride, conniving, lazy, slovenly and so my mate severed all contact with her, but the system lets her evolve and teach it to her offspring.
I have had this at home, my youngest still thinks he should get his monthly pocket money allowance off me despite now, finally getting a job, its not much but he "doesnt want to lose his benefits"
I said he wont but its going towards his driving lessons.
I have had this at home, my youngest still thinks he should get his monthly pocket money allowance off me despite now, finally getting a job, its not much but he "doesnt want to lose his benefits"
I said he wont but its going towards his driving lessons.austinsmirk said:
what no one gets is that the average "council" think that getting dole money is a god given right. from birth.
the concept of it being a safety net that assists, should you fall on hard times doesn't exist.
Of course immigrants are "taking all our money". You know the money you get "paid" on "payday" that you've never paid into a system to get.
Tax credits were the worse thing that a government invented- we never had it nor needed it before and now its just a handout for cars/holidays and so on.
free nursery places- well great if you work, but you get them on benefits. Are the parents seeking work and being active with their time ? No, its just free child care so the parents can catch up on Jeramy Kyle.
Living on the bread line, struggling with your finances ?
well obviously you need a house full of dogs, cats and exotic pets. Because they clearly cost nothing to feed and keep...........
Plus a sky subscription, an iphone 6 and Nigeria's debt to Brighthouse.......... because you couldn't possibly sit on a secondhand sofa or have a used fridge freezer/washer
I'll stop !
I agree with every single thing you have written there. the concept of it being a safety net that assists, should you fall on hard times doesn't exist.
Of course immigrants are "taking all our money". You know the money you get "paid" on "payday" that you've never paid into a system to get.
Tax credits were the worse thing that a government invented- we never had it nor needed it before and now its just a handout for cars/holidays and so on.
free nursery places- well great if you work, but you get them on benefits. Are the parents seeking work and being active with their time ? No, its just free child care so the parents can catch up on Jeramy Kyle.
Living on the bread line, struggling with your finances ?
well obviously you need a house full of dogs, cats and exotic pets. Because they clearly cost nothing to feed and keep...........
Plus a sky subscription, an iphone 6 and Nigeria's debt to Brighthouse.......... because you couldn't possibly sit on a secondhand sofa or have a used fridge freezer/washer
I'll stop !
J4CKO said:
I have had this at home, my youngest still thinks he should get his monthly pocket money allowance off me despite now, finally getting a job, its not much but he "doesnt want to lose his benefits" I said he wont but its going towards his driving lessons.
I hope he realises how lucky he is. I was on a pittance in my first job, but there was no chance my dad would have given me any handouts, I had to pay my own way regardless. I said he wont but its going towards his driving lessons.Anyhow, I watched the last episode of this programme earlier today. I have to say that I've enjoyed the series, it's been interesting. I hope CH5 revisits them all in a year's time to see how they are all getting on.
Edited by Baz Tench on Wednesday 2nd March 22:32
Baz Tench said:
Anyhow, I watched the last episode of this programme earlier today. I have to say that I've enjoyed the series, it's been interesting. I hope CH5 revisits them all in a year's time to see how they are all getting on.
Absolutely this, it was my thought exactly as it ended. I was annoyed by the lack of detailed information they gave on the second hand trader, they said he sold £123 worth of stock but didn't say what that stock cost him or how much he paid to have a stand at the boot sale let alone how far he had to drive or what his dodgy Renault van was costing to repair...SlowMoped said:
Yes, an interesting series.
Big Tony didn't appear to get the difference between turnover and profit when he was counting up his takings.
I'm not sure why they had those "experts" on the show, unless they had input away from the parts that were shown on the programme.
I fully agree and made this point earlier in the thread. I would have liked to have seen them getting some coaching that would have made a real difference to their understanding, budgeting, planning and expectations. Instead (unless there was stuff we didn't see) it would appear they were left to their own devices, other than the filmed meetings. There is a clear difference between being skilled and capable. I didn't see much skill or competency but they may have been capable if provided with some advice and training.Big Tony didn't appear to get the difference between turnover and profit when he was counting up his takings.
I'm not sure why they had those "experts" on the show, unless they had input away from the parts that were shown on the programme.
I'd like to see a follow up a few months on to see how they are now getting on. I still don't think single mum will be working and still see apathy/attitude issues there. Doeslittle and wife appeared to have run a successful party and have made about £500. Trouble is he needs to do that another 39 times to cover the cost of his capex on equipment and beasts. The free church hall was a real boon but I was amused by his casual dismissal of the effort required to clear the old pews then his moaning while he was shifting it all. The raccoon scene made me laugh. He had bought it from two fine gentlemen who kindly delivered it to his house. We didn't see their faces but I'm sure it was the same pair that bought it back. Maybe they have a successful raccoon rental business going? Sell it for £600 then buy it back a few weeks later for £460 (I think it was) then move on to the next mug. All on top of their 'bennies'.
I was genuinely happy for Eddie Large when he passed his theory test and hope he'll get through the practical. He's almost childlike in his enthusiasm when things go well for him. I just wonder if he'll be able to take the knocks that invariably come with starting a new business? His Mrs will need to keep her job so that they have her income to pay the rent, whilst he tries to make a profit. Mind you, I'm not sure how much demand there is for the 'cat wearing glasses' wrist watch? Either way, I really want them to succeed.
Dr Doeslittle strikes me as being a total arse. Yes he made £500 with the 'fun day' but was that clear profit? Even if it was, he's lost more than that on the Racoon, wedding arches and bouncy castle. He's going to need to do a couple of those a week, whilst also trying to do kids parties etc. I just don't see it happening though and am willing to bet he'll be back on benefits within 6 months. There was also no mention of public liability insurance, vet fees, food etc. I dislike parents that swear like that around their kids too.
The single mum is already lacking motivation. You'd think he would be prepared to do whatever it took to find a job, as opposed to moaning that it was boring. I'm sure he could get agency work to be going on with, which would provide some income and a reference. Sending email applications isn't likely to get him a job. He needs to get off his arse and get out there. He needs to show potential employers that he treats finding work as a job in itself. As far as I can see, the money will run out, he'll be back on benefits and blaming his failure on there just being 'no jobs out there'. There are jobs, but you need to graft to find them.
Dr Doeslittle strikes me as being a total arse. Yes he made £500 with the 'fun day' but was that clear profit? Even if it was, he's lost more than that on the Racoon, wedding arches and bouncy castle. He's going to need to do a couple of those a week, whilst also trying to do kids parties etc. I just don't see it happening though and am willing to bet he'll be back on benefits within 6 months. There was also no mention of public liability insurance, vet fees, food etc. I dislike parents that swear like that around their kids too.
The single mum is already lacking motivation. You'd think he would be prepared to do whatever it took to find a job, as opposed to moaning that it was boring. I'm sure he could get agency work to be going on with, which would provide some income and a reference. Sending email applications isn't likely to get him a job. He needs to get off his arse and get out there. He needs to show potential employers that he treats finding work as a job in itself. As far as I can see, the money will run out, he'll be back on benefits and blaming his failure on there just being 'no jobs out there'. There are jobs, but you need to graft to find them.
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