RTC on my road, debris left everywhere

RTC on my road, debris left everywhere

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smithyithy

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7,248 posts

118 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Assumed this was the best place to post..

I live in a cul-de-sac of 2 streets just off a busy 30mph road. Over the weekend, Friday or Saturday night, there was a small crash where the two roads meet. I only have word of mouth details, but I heard it was a taxi and another car.

Anyway police attended, both cars left that night.

Left the house for work this morning, and returned this evening, and there is still debris all over the bell mouth of our road, and opposite, in the gutter of the main road, stuff like headlamp glass, indicator lense, loads of black plastic etc.

I'd like to know if it's standard procedure for police attending an RTC to just leave the accident site unsafe like this.. But more importantly, who is best to contact regarding this?

Should I contact local council initially or the local police station(s)?

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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The police aren't cleaners, in the same way you'd not expect the fire and rescue service to help you mop up after a flood or the ambulance service to come around and make sure you'd taken your tablets, they are there for the emergency.

The council are responsible for the streets.

wolves_wanderer

12,387 posts

237 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I'd brush it up and get on with my life personally.

soad

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176 months

Impasse

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241 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Broom for sale. One careful owner. £10. Collection only.

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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wolves_wanderer said:
I'd brush it up and get on with my life personally.
This!

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Impasse said:
Broom for sale. One careful owner. £10. Collection only.
Trigger, is that you?

Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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markmullen said:
The police aren't cleaners, in the same way you'd not expect the fire and rescue service to help you mop up after a flood or the ambulance service to come around and make sure you'd taken your tablets, they are there for the emergency.

The council are responsible for the streets.
I've seen instances where BiB sweep up.


There are too many people who expect 999 to come round & help.
"My remote control is bost!!!!!"

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Shaw Tarse said:
markmullen said:
The police aren't cleaners, in the same way you'd not expect the fire and rescue service to help you mop up after a flood or the ambulance service to come around and make sure you'd taken your tablets, they are there for the emergency.

The council are responsible for the streets.
I've seen instances where BiB sweep up.
In fairness it sounds like they've swept it to the side, which is normal.

Crush

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Muncher said:
wolves_wanderer said:
I'd brush it up and get on with my life personally.
This!
But then you'd be stealing the job of a council cleaning technician.

smithyithy

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7,248 posts

118 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Well I got through to the council, eventually, the guy took the details and will try to send a sweeper.

I'd sweep it up if it wasn't on a busy road, but the council are already slacking in our area..

We've been asking them to clean the graffiti off the green boxes and fences, and sort the litter, dog mess, overgrown trees, broken glass etc from the alleyway at the end of our road, that's used everyday by the primary school kids and parents, for a year.

Not really jobs I think we should be doing?

Bill

52,778 posts

255 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
Not really jobs I think we should be doing?
Unless you want it done some time this century...

smithyithy

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118 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Well that's true, but where does it stop?


Bill

52,778 posts

255 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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It depends how picky you are and how many neighbours you can get involved. Councils have limited money, and different priorities to you, and won't get around to it.

smithyithy

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7,248 posts

118 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I do sympathise that they're under financial constraints.

Ourselves and a couple other nearby neighbours do try to look after the street, but it's slowly going downhill.

Used to be the pensioners would be out every weekend sweeping and tidying up. They're gradually passing on, sadly, and being replaced by young couples / families that can't even tidy their own front gardens / drives, let alone the road opposite them.

_Rich_

966 posts

172 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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When I crashed my first car into the back of someone 12 years ago, the policeman gave me the broom and made me sweep up the mess. In complete shock and aching like a bd sweeping a busy A road during rush hour.


ColinM50

2,631 posts

175 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
I'd sweep it up if it wasn't on a busy road, but the council are already slacking in our area..

We've been asking them to clean the graffiti off the green boxes and fences, and sort the litter, dog mess, overgrown trees, broken glass etc from the alleyway at the end of our road, that's used everyday by the primary school kids and parents, for a year.

Not really jobs I think we should be doing?
As a town councillor I have a different p.o.v. Us councils are all under tremendous pressure to cut costs and our budgets and funding from central govt have been cut drastically. I'd have thought even you would have heard about this?

So I'd say do one of three things. Moan continually at and to your council and hope they get round to fixing whatever it is you're moaning about this week.

OR. Get you finger out and do it yourself. A brush for the glass, some paint for the graffiti, pick up the odd bit of litter.

OR Organise a local action group of like minded able bodied folk who can all get together one Saturday or Sunday morning and sort it out then a burger in the pub and build up a community spirit. Surprising what you could acheive

Our town is going to be organising a "clean for the Queen" event to celebrate HM's birthday on April 21. Maybe you could do something similar?

ooo000ooo

2,531 posts

194 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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_Rich_ said:
When I crashed my first car into the back of someone 12 years ago, the policeman gave me the broom and made me sweep up the mess. In complete shock and aching like a bd sweeping a busy A road during rush hour.
When I had an accident, I was standing on shock waiting while the fire brigade cut my wife out of the car and some tt shouted at me because parts of it were lying in the road.
Not that he was getting past the fire engine, the paramedic, the ambulance or the police car.

smithyithy

Original Poster:

7,248 posts

118 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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ColinM50 said:
As a town councillor I have a different p.o.v. Us councils are all under tremendous pressure to cut costs and our budgets and funding from central govt have been cut drastically. I'd have thought even you would have heard about this?

So I'd say do one of three things. Moan continually at and to your council and hope they get round to fixing whatever it is you're moaning about this week.

OR. Get you finger out and do it yourself. A brush for the glass, some paint for the graffiti, pick up the odd bit of litter.

OR Organise a local action group of like minded able bodied folk who can all get together one Saturday or Sunday morning and sort it out then a burger in the pub and build up a community spirit. Surprising what you could acheive

Our town is going to be organising a "clean for the Queen" event to celebrate HM's birthday on April 21. Maybe you could do something similar?
I said further up I understand the budget has been slashed, we're about to feel the hit as a result of big cuts from DfT..

And there's no point saying 'pull your finger out' as if I and other residents do sod all. We do, but we all work full time jobs so while we do what we can, repainting lengths of fence, green boxes (that neither council, BT or Virgin will take any responsibility for), sweeping dog st, broken bottles, dozens of drinks cans, cutting metres of overgrown trees etc is out of scope..

The fact is it's a lot of things, and we don't see anything done about it.

But some of it is third parties contributing to the work for both us and the council.. We had one of the water companies dig up about 15 metres of footpath before Christmas, when they packed up and left, they left behind sand, mud and gravel all over the path, road and the residents garden, he complained and was told they'd 'look into it'. In the end him and another chap got the jet wash and brushes out and cleaned it up.

Might sound petty but is it too much to ask to not have our street look like a tip?

If only there was a group of people, who have plenty of spare time, who are already funded by the tax payer, that could be sent out in supervised groups to clean up local areas and do a bit of good for a change.. scratchchinlaugh

The Moose

22,849 posts

209 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Sounds like you live in a st hole. Move wink