RTC on my road, debris left everywhere

RTC on my road, debris left everywhere

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loafer123

15,404 posts

214 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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My guess is that it would have taken you 5 minutes to sweep up and feel good about yourself.

Instead, you have spent half an hour phoning people, venting to strangers on the internet and winding yourself up.

In the light of the above, what do you think is the right choice?

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
We've been asking them to clean the graffiti off the green boxes and fences, and sort the litter, dog mess, overgrown trees, broken glass etc from the alleyway at the end of our road, that's used everyday by the primary school kids and parents, for a year.

Not really jobs I think we should be doing?
Maybe the people creating the problem need re-education I'd start with spraying paint in their face, make litter droppers eat it, smear the dog ste on owners who poop and run when caught, ask the landowners to get a grip of their greenery (see the moany thread on that from last month about some blokes overgrown hedge) and making those who break bottles walk over it barefoot.

ColinM50 said:
As a town councillor I have a different p.o.v. Us councils are all under tremendous pressure to cut costs and our budgets and funding from central govt have been cut drastically. I'd have thought even you would have heard about this?

So I'd say do one of three things. Moan continually at and to your council and hope they get round to fixing whatever it is you're moaning about this week.

OR. Get you finger out and do it yourself. A brush for the glass, some paint for the graffiti, pick up the odd bit of litter.

OR Organise a local action group of like minded able bodied folk who can all get together one Saturday or Sunday morning and sort it out then a burger in the pub and build up a community spirit. Surprising what you could acheive

Our town is going to be organising a "clean for the Queen" event to celebrate HM's birthday on April 21. Maybe you could do something similar?
I'm right behind Colin on this the council don't create the st but you pay for it to be removed. There needs to be a lot more personal responsibility in this country and a huge kick up the arse for those letting the rest of us down.

smithyithy

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7,192 posts

117 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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loafer123 said:
My guess is that it would have taken you 5 minutes to sweep up and feel good about yourself.

Instead, you have spent half an hour phoning people, venting to strangers on the internet and winding yourself up.

In the light of the above, what do you think is the right choice?
Well as the above is inaccurate...

I'd actually got through to the council before shortly after posting the thread as I got home in time to catch them.

I'm not going to stand in the gutter of a busy main road in the wind and rain sweeping.

My original query was why it was left there, it seemed odd that the incident was attended to, then everyone just buggered off and left the mess there for anyone to drive / ride / walk over.



Edited by smithyithy on Monday 8th February 21:07


Edited by smithyithy on Monday 8th February 21:08

MDMA .

8,849 posts

100 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Do it yourself. Councils too busy looking after and spending money of the nice people in council houses. With all the cuts, they need some extra help.

smithyithy

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7,192 posts

117 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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speedyguy said:
Maybe the people creating the problem need re-education I'd start with spraying paint in their face, make litter droppers eat it, smear the dog ste on owners who poop and run when caught, ask the landowners to get a grip of their greenery (see the moany thread on that from last month about some blokes overgrown hedge) and making those who break bottles walk over it barefoot.

I'm right behind Colin on this the council don't create the st but you pay for it to be removed. There needs to be a lot more personal responsibility in this country and a huge kick up the arse for those letting the rest of us down.
Well, that's part of the greater issue.

I've lived here my whole life, my parents for 28 years.

It seems like year on year, it gets worse.

The primary school through the alley used to be great, me and my sister went there, it was clean and decent.. Now it's full of little buggers whose parents let them drink RedBull and discard the litter into people's gardens while parking their flashy crossovers across people's dropped kerbs.

Pensioners are replaced by scruffy young couples, local butchers and florists replaced by Nisa and OneStop.

It's a shame, and now I can hardly wait to relocate.

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

131 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
Well I got through to the council, eventually, the guy took the details and will try to send a sweeper.

I'd sweep it up if it wasn't on a busy road, but the council are already slacking in our area..

We've been asking them to clean the graffiti off the green boxes and fences, and sort the litter, dog mess, overgrown trees, broken glass etc from the alleyway at the end of our road, that's used everyday by the primary school kids and parents, for a year.

Not really jobs I think we should be doing?
Your council isn't slacking. It will have suffered massive cuts in manpower and funding for the purchase and maintenance of plant. In reality those left have never worked harder and bearing in mind they haven't had a proper payrise since the credit crunch have never worked for such little money.

2gins

2,839 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Settle down, Kowalski.

red_slr

17,122 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Just ring your local highways and tell them and they will generally come out within a few hours if its during the day.

smithyithy

Original Poster:

7,192 posts

117 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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We don't have a local highways as such, the council has a traffic and roads department through their switchboard who took the info from me.

It's still all there, mostly in the gutter now but some glass still across the stop line of the junction, one of the cars number plates is on the path too, leaning against someone's front wall laugh

If it's still there Saturday morning I'll go and clear it up, been working 7-5 so not had much time spare to be honest.

To give them some credit, the council have just patched a few potholed / sunken gullies locally that had fell apart after the snow we had.

hairyben

8,516 posts

182 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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I was first on scene to some some chappie who'd rolled his clio onto it's roof on a shoddy adverse camber slip road leaving the M1 a little while ago.

when the ambulance finally got there - after about an hour - and dressed the guys wounds I was quite annoyed to see the cavalier way they tossed a considerable quantity of litter (packaging for the dressing etc) on the road to flutter away. I mean this guy had a few grazes it's not like they were fighting to keep him alive and re-attach limbs.

I appreciate criticising ambulance people probably puts my already poor popularity on par with being a registered sex offender but hey.

Sump

5,484 posts

166 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
Well that's true, but where does it stop?
By moving out of your council area.

surveyor

17,766 posts

183 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Many many years ago when I wad newly driving we lived near nowhere.

Came home one foggy day to police blocking the road just short of our house. I wandered down and asked if I could pass, they said. No.

5 minutes later they wandered back looking to do a deal. I could go if I lent them a sweeping brush.

Done deal

227bhp

10,203 posts

127 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Your attitude stinks, just get out there with a brush and shovel and do the right thing.
People like you make me sick. hurl

smithyithy

Original Poster:

7,192 posts

117 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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Sump said:
By moving out of your council area.
The original issue has little to do with the area specifically, and this area isn't council, generally speaking.

fatboy18

18,930 posts

210 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
Assumed this was the best place to post..

I live in a cul-de-sac of 2 streets just off a busy 30mph road. Over the weekend, Friday or Saturday night, there was a small crash where the two roads meet. I only have word of mouth details, but I heard it was a taxi and another car.

Anyway police attended, both cars left that night.

Left the house for work this morning, and returned this evening, and there is still debris all over the bell mouth of our road, and opposite, in the gutter of the main road, stuff like headlamp glass, indicator lense, loads of black plastic etc.

I'd like to know if it's standard procedure for police attending an RTC to just leave the accident site unsafe like this.. But more importantly, who is best to contact regarding this?

Should I contact local council initially or the local police station(s)?
Ask not what your Country can do for you but what YOU can do for your Country.....
Now grab a broom, and a couple of dustbin liners and sweep it up.

Note: Now because we have to recycle, make sure you put the glass in one bin and phone your local council to make sure the plastic is suitable to go in the recycle bin. Now if you are going to work in the road you better contact Highways in the County council, make sure you wear a Hi Vis vest. And don't forget to have all your paperwork in order including your Risk Assessment paperwork, Safety boots should also be worn. Might also be worth having a second person looking out for traffic while you perform this task.

Have I missed anything? Oh Yes, if your picking up glass make sure you wear gloves and safety glasses. Love this country rolleyes

Condi

17,085 posts

170 months

Thursday 11th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
Sump said:
By moving out of your council area.
The original issue has little to do with the area specifically, and this area isn't council, generally speaking.
tumbleweed

smithyithy

Original Poster:

7,192 posts

117 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Can you write a response rather than just posting smilies?

mike74

3,687 posts

131 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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If only there was a group of people, who have plenty of spare time, who are already funded by the tax payer, that could be sent out in supervised groups to clean up local areas and do a bit of good for a change.. scratchchinlaugh
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I'm guessing you're referring to all the early retiree baby boomers... I couldn't agree more, it's about time they gave something back to society after a lifetime of taking.

bobbo89

5,151 posts

144 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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smithyithy said:
We've been asking them to clean the graffiti off the green boxes and fences, and sort the litter, dog mess, overgrown trees, broken glass etc from the alleyway at the end of our road, that's used everyday by the primary school kids and parents, for a year.
If your council is anything like my spot they'll have lost all budget for maintenance of PROW's (the alleyway) as well as the teams who handled the requests and the guys who did actual physical work to maintain them.

Budgets are that tight at the moment that your LA will only really be attending call-outs that pose a real danger to the public.

Tasmin200

1,258 posts

186 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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I'd say it's nothing to do with the OP,Police or the Council. If I had a crash and had left half my car on the road side I'd be back as soon as I could to tidy up.