Poor people and credit

Poor people and credit

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Oakey

27,566 posts

216 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
The architect of Western debt poverty, a bloke who pretend fights other blokes in women's clothing and a leading Hollywood actress. It's not good but could be a lot worse. For example, the obvious massive red alerts are things like a cardashian, Kanye type, footballer, oompaloompa etc cropping up.
On scrolling further Stallone, Pierce Brosnan and Adrian Brody also wear them.

ETA: Also, the entire cast of The Expendables it seems;







The Pike-o-meter is through the roof

Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 10th February 13:12

DonkeyApple

55,271 posts

169 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Oakey said:
DonkeyApple said:
The architect of Western debt poverty, a bloke who pretend fights other blokes in women's clothing and a leading Hollywood actress. It's not good but could be a lot worse. For example, the obvious massive red alerts are things like a cardashian, Kanye type, footballer, oompaloompa etc cropping up.
On scrolling further Stallone, Pierce Brosnan and Adrian Brody also wear them.
Not improving. Unless the Brody is Chief Brody? That would have to give brownie points. biggrin

A10

633 posts

99 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I own a Panerai watch and a Bentley car. I even owned a (Breitling) Bentley watch once.

I'm obviously a . Thanks for setting me straight.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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I have no comprehension of what a panathingy watch is.

I don't even like wearing a watch- in fact given my phone has a clock, I don't even need one.

where on earth does that rank me on the ph scale ?

good wind up thread though..

DonkeyApple

55,271 posts

169 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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austinsmirk said:
I have no comprehension of what a panathingy watch is.

I don't even like wearing a watch- in fact given my phone has a clock, I don't even need one.

where on earth does that rank me on the ph scale ?

good wind up thread though..
I don't think anyone really needs one nowadays, exactly because of phones etc. They are just jingle jangle jewellery as the great 'look at my watch' legend Jimmy Saville would say.

Pretending you don't need to know the time is infinitely superior to announcing you are at the beck and call of others by putting on a bit of jewellery. But, we all know that true wealth is having someone walk behind you who's job it is to tell you the time. Not having a valet is a sign of proper scum. biggrin

Risotto

3,928 posts

212 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stinkotanko said:
For me the thrill of ownership of my watch collection and my relatively humble fleet of cars is that I own them.

Not the bank, not Bright House, me.

It upsets me to see a tracksuit-wearing yobbo sporting a Panerai, it makes me positively incandescent with rage when they bemoan the cost of buckles and purchase a fake.
Interesting that you admit your materialistic motivations, it makes a refreshing change to hear someone confess that it's ownership of the watches that thrills them rather than any appreciation of the craftsmanship that presumably went into their design and manufacture.

There are those who do admire the work that goes into making an expensive watch, who enjoy the driving experience offered by an expensive car or who love a painting for the emotion it invokes. I suppose they're vaguely laudable reasons for buying such things and indeed the retailers are careful to emphasise these more socially acceptable justifications for owning such objects. After all, it wouldn't do for either party to admit that a good deal of the appeal lies in an object's ability to convey (discreetly, of course wink)an appearance of wealth.

But if the aim of the purchase is to convey a message to others, then I'm not sure what that message might be, other than 'I am capable of exchanging money for goods'. After all, they didn't make the watch and probably haven't the faintest idea how it works. They didn't design the car. They didn't paint the art in their collection. They simply took part in a financial transaction.

In reality, a good proportion of both those you seem to consider worthy of a Panerai and those you don't are likely to be dreadful people; the former are simply more adept at disguising the fact.


Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 10th February 14:36

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Risotto said:
But if the aim of the purchase is to convey a message to others, then I'm not sure what that message might be, other than 'I am capable of exchanging money for goods'. After all, they didn't make the watch and probably haven't the faintest idea how it works. They didn't design the car. They didn't paint the art in their collection. They simply took part in a financial transaction.

In reality, a good proportion of both those you seem to consider worthy of a Panerai and those you don't are likely to be dreadful people; the former are simply more adept at disguising the fact.


Edited by Risotto on Wednesday 10th February 14:36
The message is 'look at me - I can spend silly amounts of money on something I don't need. This is because I am a big dog, alpha male. You don't fk with me, because I am a winner'.

I am not saying everyone who spends a lot of money on something feels like this, HOWEVER, those who buy 'premium brands' because they perceive it gives them some exclusivity will probably be looking to say this.

See those freaking juvenile Breitling adverts for an extension of this


A10

633 posts

99 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Vocal Minority said:
The message is 'look at me - I can spend silly amounts of money on something I don't need. This is because I am a big dog, alpha male. You don't fk with me, because I am a winner'.

I am not saying everyone who spends a lot of money on something feels like this, HOWEVER, those who buy 'premium brands' because they perceive it gives them some exclusivity will probably be looking to say this.

See those freaking juvenile Breitling adverts for an extension of this
You're poor aren't you...

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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well call me stupid, but I've googled said watches.

to my un watchy mind- they don't look expensive or anything special.

And at about £4000 are they especially expensive. I say this because I'd imagine a limp wristed man can spend substantially more on his watch collection.


WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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A10 said:
Vocal Minority said:
The message is 'look at me - I can spend silly amounts of money on something I don't need. This is because I am a big dog, alpha male. You don't fk with me, because I am a winner'.

I am not saying everyone who spends a lot of money on something feels like this, HOWEVER, those who buy 'premium brands' because they perceive it gives them some exclusivity will probably be looking to say this.

See those freaking juvenile Breitling adverts for an extension of this
You're poor aren't you...

J4CKO

41,557 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Its the terrible realisation that, despite wealth and material things, you are still just another punter out of seven billion who doesn't really matter in the scheme of things, you can set up a complex web of people, things and payments to try and convince yourself you are special, you arent, most humans arent, just another confused meatsack trying to make sense of what is probably an illusion anyway, but if looking down on other people because you have more money works for you go for it.

I save my pointless ire for people who do st things to others, not for having less access to currency as generally a lot of luck is involved in that, or thriving off someone elses effort.

Poor people have aspirations and needs as well, but, being poor is expensive, and not everyone can be rich, that wouldn't work.




Stinkotanko

Original Poster:

168 posts

99 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Sorry fellow Pistonheads, I didn't mean to cause such aggravation, just express a view.

HairyMaclary

3,667 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stinkotanko said:
Sorry fellow Pistonheads, I didn't mean to cause such aggravation, just express a view.
So it be onto this.

Why did the chringy thread get closed?

egor110

16,860 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stinkotanko said:
Sorry fellow Pistonheads, I didn't mean to cause such aggravation, just express a view.
You still haven't replied to any of the points raised last night.

rb5er

11,657 posts

172 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stinkotanko said:
Sorry fellow Pistonheads, I didn't mean to cause such aggravation, just express a view.
So you don't have a mortgage?

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stinkotanko said:
Sorry fellow Pistonheads, I didn't mean to cause such aggravation, just express a view.

nikaiyo2

4,728 posts

195 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Sorry people this is my fault. I started a thread in watches, about the validity of fake buckles.

Instead of responding to a direct question he posts this.


It makes me laugh Bentley hahaha my dad has had one since before I can recall, old mans cars to me, would never drive one on fella.

I suppose I was extremely lucky I grew up in a family where money was never a worry, so credit has never scared me, it makes life easy. I know my reasons for buying one watch (in a collection valued at £50k for insurance purposes) on finance.

If you don't like it cool, but you really show your utter lack of class. Rely on old school motto and thank the Lord I don't have to mix with such small minded fools as you in real life.

Manners makyth man

AW111

9,674 posts

133 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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nikaiyo2 said:
Sorry people this is my fault. I started a thread in watches, about the validity of fake buckles.

Instead of responding to a direct question he posts this.


It makes me laugh Bentley hahaha my dad has had one since before I can recall, old mans cars to me, would never drive one on fella.

I suppose I was extremely lucky I grew up in a family where money was never a worry, so credit has never scared me, it makes life easy. I know my reasons for buying one watch (in a collection valued at £50k for insurance purposes) on finance.

If you don't like it cool, but you really show your utter lack of class. Rely on old school motto and thank the Lord I don't have to mix with such small minded fools as you in real life.

Manners makyth man
If you hadn't felt the need to tell us how much your watch collection is valued at, that would have been a good post.

AC43

11,486 posts

208 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stinkotanko said:
a Panerai
A what?

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Wednesday 10th February 2016
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Stinkotanko said:
For me the thrill of ownership of my watch collection and my relatively humble fleet of cars is that I own them.

Not the bank, not Bright House, me.

Why do people not simply purchase what they can afford and stop cheapening prestigious brands with the sickening credit culture Britain is tied up in?

It upsets me to see a tracksuit-wearing yobbo sporting a Panerai, it makes me positively incandescent with rage when they bemoan the cost of buckles and purchase a fake.

Thankfully the 0% interest HP deals aren't available on premium cars or they would all be tearing around their council estates in Bentleys.

I guess I just don't like poor people.