American prison stories
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Ayahuasca said:
There was a case a while back of a UK bloke who sold self-help type motivational 'you too can have this lifetyle' videos. Because the bloke did not actually have the lifetyle he claimed, he was done for fraud.
The sting was that the US authorities treated every US dollar payment he ever received or made as separate 'money laundering' offenses (he was not money laundering, just selling videos).
He got a massively disproportionate prison sentence.
I read about that, or at least a very similar story. Except it was his wife that got the disproportionate sentence - she was the one whose name was on the money transfers. Every time she put money in their offshore account, it was counted as a case of money laundering as the money was deemed the proceed of crime or something. He got a few months, and she got something like a hundred years The sting was that the US authorities treated every US dollar payment he ever received or made as separate 'money laundering' offenses (he was not money laundering, just selling videos).
He got a massively disproportionate prison sentence.
She was a Brit that had emigrated and she was trying to get the prime minister involved. Wonder what happened to her?
offshorematt2 said:
I read about that, or at least a very similar story. Except it was his wife that got the disproportionate sentence - she was the one whose name was on the money transfers. Every time she put money in their offshore account, it was counted as a case of money laundering as the money was deemed the proceed of crime or something. He got a few months, and she got something like a hundred years
She was a Brit that had emigrated and she was trying to get the prime minister involved. Wonder what happened to her?
You are right, I think it was that case.She was a Brit that had emigrated and she was trying to get the prime minister involved. Wonder what happened to her?
Morningside said:
How did you get on being English in an American jail. Was it a help or hindrance?
I also thought (watching too may TV programmes) that it was all gang segregated? How did you get on with that.
Did t he say something about telling them he was in English gang ? At startI also thought (watching too may TV programmes) that it was all gang segregated? How did you get on with that.
Ilovejapcrap said:
Morningside said:
How did you get on being English in an American jail. Was it a help or hindrance?
I also thought (watching too may TV programmes) that it was all gang segregated? How did you get on with that.
Did t he say something about telling them he was in English gang ? At startI also thought (watching too may TV programmes) that it was all gang segregated? How did you get on with that.
3. The Greek and The Terminator Killer
OK, still in 850. Couple of guys with interesting cases to mention.
First, The Greek, his name was actually Christos but everyone just called him Greek as he was from, no surprises here, Greece.
Anyway I managed to score a bunk next to the wall keeping Bruce as my neighbour and The Greek took my old bunk. Now in jail/prison it's considered bad form to ask someone outright why they're there but after a while he told me his story.
He was in his apartment and after a 4 day crack binge he was cleaning his Glock and somehow, probably not unrelated to being on crack, managed to fire the gun, the bullet going through the wall into his neighbour's apartment. Luckily no one was hit but they obviously dialed 911. So the cops arrive and knock on his door, he's suffering from paranoia at this stage and answers the door with his Glock in his hand but held behind him. Upon seeing the cops he says he panicked and accidentally fired his gun down the corridor in his apartment. He then turns and runs.
Obviously on hearing this the cops drew their guns and started firing, he says they fired 26 rounds in total while he was running back through into his bedroom and they missed him every single time. I found this hard to believe but he handed me his indictment.
Sure enough it was there, a whole load of testimony by the cops. Long story short, one of them fired two rounds while providing cover for his colleague who emptied two clips trying to shoot The Greek.
So after fruitlessly trying to kill him they just arrested him instead. He ended up being indicted on two charges of attempted murder on two SFPD cops. Bail was set at a million dollars so he was stuck in 850 as there was no way he could raise a 100K bond.
He kept on saying he was innocent. He also said, well I'm guilty of something but not attempted murder. I said, well you're definitely guilty of being a stupid motherf
ker and he just laughed.
He was still there when I left, I've tried searching for details of his case but found nothing so I assume his lawyer got him off the serious charges and probably got him a deal on something lesser.
The Terminator Killer got rolled up just before I got there as most of the guys thought he was just too much of a nutcase.
Bruce was telling me he shot and killed two guys who he claimed were cyborgs sent back from the future to kill him.
Not sure if that was going to wash in an SF courtroom.
OK, still in 850. Couple of guys with interesting cases to mention.
First, The Greek, his name was actually Christos but everyone just called him Greek as he was from, no surprises here, Greece.
Anyway I managed to score a bunk next to the wall keeping Bruce as my neighbour and The Greek took my old bunk. Now in jail/prison it's considered bad form to ask someone outright why they're there but after a while he told me his story.
He was in his apartment and after a 4 day crack binge he was cleaning his Glock and somehow, probably not unrelated to being on crack, managed to fire the gun, the bullet going through the wall into his neighbour's apartment. Luckily no one was hit but they obviously dialed 911. So the cops arrive and knock on his door, he's suffering from paranoia at this stage and answers the door with his Glock in his hand but held behind him. Upon seeing the cops he says he panicked and accidentally fired his gun down the corridor in his apartment. He then turns and runs.
Obviously on hearing this the cops drew their guns and started firing, he says they fired 26 rounds in total while he was running back through into his bedroom and they missed him every single time. I found this hard to believe but he handed me his indictment.
Sure enough it was there, a whole load of testimony by the cops. Long story short, one of them fired two rounds while providing cover for his colleague who emptied two clips trying to shoot The Greek.
So after fruitlessly trying to kill him they just arrested him instead. He ended up being indicted on two charges of attempted murder on two SFPD cops. Bail was set at a million dollars so he was stuck in 850 as there was no way he could raise a 100K bond.
He kept on saying he was innocent. He also said, well I'm guilty of something but not attempted murder. I said, well you're definitely guilty of being a stupid motherf
ker and he just laughed. He was still there when I left, I've tried searching for details of his case but found nothing so I assume his lawyer got him off the serious charges and probably got him a deal on something lesser.
The Terminator Killer got rolled up just before I got there as most of the guys thought he was just too much of a nutcase.
Bruce was telling me he shot and killed two guys who he claimed were cyborgs sent back from the future to kill him.
Not sure if that was going to wash in an SF courtroom.
Morningside said:
How did you get on being English in an American jail. Was it a help or hindrance?
Definitely not a hindrance, in fact I think I was something of a novelty, they knew that having been extradited from the UK that the US weren't fking around with me.Morningside said:
I also thought (watching too may TV programmes) that it was all gang segregated? How did you get on with that.
Yes, in prison everyone sticks to their own race/gang. You can't eat with the blacks although strangely you do get some whites that ride with black gangs.For instance when I got booked into Kern County Jail the cop was about to put me in a cell when the guy in the cell next door banged on the door and said you can't go in there. I said why not, he's a white guy. He said yes but he runs with the crips (Black gang), I said to the cop sorry I'm not going in there. He said well it's either there or the hole. I said OK put me in the hole then. He backed down and found me another cell.
The guy who told me not to go there was a Skinhead, ie. skinhead gang member and he said I made the right call and I thanked him for telling me.
I was a Wood (whites), the hardcore white gangs like the Aryan Brotherhood and the Nazi Low Riders are mainly in the State prisons and the max Federal institutions because they're doing long stretches. They are also BIBO, blood in and blood out. There's not much mileage in shanking someone if your're only doing a five stretch like I was.
I have lots more stories if there's more interest, I left this because it went a bit quiet.
Edited by CloaK on Wednesday 20th April 11:08
5678 said:
CloaK said:
I have lots more stories if there's more interest, I left this because it went a bit quiet.
Keep posting them. Some have their doubts on your credibility, but I'm finding it interesting.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff