Why do some people put a T in "Chorizo"?

[colin_p]

Forgetting food for a moment.

coop vs coo-pay
mon-dee-oh vs mon-day-oh
perg-eot vs perj-oh

I like the eccentric eyebrow raising, catchphrase say-what-you-see, way.

[bobbo89]

Kermit power said:

Whereas everyone else knows it's really pronounced "Cash Cow".

I've always called them a Squashy Squashy...

[STO]

colin_p said:

Forgetting food for a moment.

coop vs coo-pay
mon-dee-oh vs mon-day-oh
perg-eot vs perj-oh

I like the eccentric eyebrow raising, catchphrase say-what-you-see, way.

Also Pewj-oh

[Roxbylad]

Kermit power said:

We have foreign words that have been adopted into the English language. That's perfectly normal.

Plenty of those foreign words have been anglicised, and again, that's perfectly normal. Nobody calls Paris "Paree", of course. Except for the French, and we all know they don't count....

But why is it that some people insist on pronouncing Chorizo as "ChoriTzo"??? If the word was actually spelt with a T which was silent in Spanish, then Choritzo would be a perfectly natural anglicisation in the same way that pronouncing Bruschetta as "brooshetta" is even though the Italians pronounce it "broosketta" because the c and ch sounds are reversed between English and Italian, but ChoriTzo just makes no sense!!!

If you win a competition, you get a prize, not a "priTze", so why do we get ChoriTzo?? Are there any linguistics experts on here who could shed any light on it?

I think this practice started in Geordyland where they have loads of 'T's left over from things like ta''oos! etc

[fausTVR]

Kermit power said:

shindha said:

José, hmmm

I knew what he meant. The BBC now pronounce Don Juan or Jose -whatever- with good old fashioned hard consonants, this has irritated me for a while. To my surprise.

[iphonedyou]

DonkeyApple said:

Did I say they put a Knin there? No. . They put a harshness into the lead of the H and in English the closest we have to replicate that sound is the K, as I explained. The lady does it quite clearly and it explains why we don't generally say Rioha as Rioka is the only way the English language can get close to simulating the local pronunciation.

Pretty much. Much in evidence with a word like 'naranja'. The following a (and central position of the j) encourages amongst non-natives a particularly harsh j.

Oddly, give the same people a word like 'juzgado' and they'll likely aspirate without issue.

[miniman]

My Grandfather used to pronounce Pizza "pitt za". I suspect at least in part as some sort of veiled slight on the incoming foreign food coming over here taking our jobs.

Anyway, girl I used to work with announced that she was going on holiday to Praha. Get in the fking sea.

[Moonhawk]

Kermit power said:

We have foreign words that have been adopted into the English language. That's perfectly normal.

Plenty of those foreign words have been anglicised, and again, that's perfectly normal. Nobody calls Paris "Paree", of course. Except for the French, and we all know they don't count....

But why is it that some people insist on pronouncing Chorizo as "ChoriTzo"??? If the word was actually spelt with a T which was silent in Spanish, then Choritzo would be a perfectly natural anglicisation in the same way that pronouncing Bruschetta as "brooshetta" is even though the Italians pronounce it "broosketta" because the c and ch sounds are reversed between English and Italian, but ChoriTzo just makes no sense!!!

If you win a competition, you get a prize, not a "priTze", so why do we get ChoriTzo?? Are there any linguistics experts on here who could shed any light on it?

the letter group 'izo' can be pronounced as if it contains a T e.g. schizoid

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/engl...

[Moonhawk]

GroundEffect said:

Because that's how you pronounce it...

People that say 'Jalapeno' with a hard 'J' at the start are cringe-worthy.

Yeh - same as people who type it without using the virgulilla over the n. Utter plebs the lot of em

[The Mad Monk]

toasty said:

Forget foreign sausages, half the country can't even pronounce the word 'bath'.

It is, of course, pronounced 'barth'.

What about 'h'?

[Disastrous]

DonkeyApple said:

Did I say they put a Knin there? No. . They put a harshness into the lead of the H and in English the closest we have to replicate that sound is the K, as I explained. The lady does it quite clearly and it explains why we don't generally say Rioha as Rioka is the only way the English language can get close to simulating the local pronunciation.

Why can't the English pronounce it correctly, like Riocha, as in 'Loch', 'Och aye' etc etc?

I know English people pronounce 'Loch' as 'Lock' but surely they *can* say 'Loch' if they want to??

[colin_p]

Disastrous said:

Why can't the English pronounce it correctly, like Riocha, as in 'Loch', 'Och aye' etc etc?

I know English people pronounce 'Loch' as 'Lock' but surely they *can* say 'Loch' if they want to??

No because that'd mean when on holiday up there, you'd be sitting by the lotch whilst eating a scotchegg.

And when did Channel 4 start putting Ger-rand Pricks's on?

[Hugo a Gogo]

fausTVR said:

Kermit power said:

shindha said:

José, hmmm

I knew what he meant. The BBC now pronounce Don Juan or Jose -whatever- with good old fashioned hard consonants, this has irritated me for a while. To my surprise.

Portuguese José, such as the football manager, is pronounced with a J like giraffe

[drivin_me_nuts]

aah yes, and the famous da-veed Gin-oh-lah.


It amuses me, an Arab friend prounces Bekh(clearing throat sound)-am

[Spanna]

The latest trend, Chipotle. Pronounce that one. Chip-ot-ul? Chi-pote-lay?
I've heard a lot of ways to say it in the order line at Subway

[Moonhawk]

Mispronunciation is not an 'English' phenomenon by any stretch of the imagination

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZTJXtcOkvU

Pronunciation is not always self evident from it's spelling - so unless you know the specific pronounciation, it can be difficult to guess right as the video above demonstrates.

Also - some sounds are difficult unless you have practice e.g. the guttural throat sound in 'loch' is not common in the English language, whereas in Scottish and Welsh it is. Native English speakers can often struggle with replicating that sound - in much the same way as the woman in the first clip pronounced "that" as "zat", probably because the "th" sound in English is not common in her native language.

Edited by Moonhawk on Sunday 1st May 14:06

[James19181]

I have 'merkin cousins who pronounce 'buoy' as 'boo-ee'. Was convinced they were taking the piss...

[Halmyre]

Disastrous said:

DonkeyApple said:

Did I say they put a Knin there? No. . They put a harshness into the lead of the H and in English the closest we have to replicate that sound is the K, as I explained. The lady does it quite clearly and it explains why we don't generally say Rioha as Rioka is the only way the English language can get close to simulating the local pronunciation.

Why can't the English pronounce it correctly, like Riocha, as in 'Loch', 'Och aye' etc etc?

I know English people pronounce 'Loch' as 'Lock' but surely they *can* say 'Loch' if they want to??

Heh. Yes. Bach, yes. Loch, no.

[Hugo a Gogo]

what about Americans who can't pronounce the name 'Craig'

[Kneetrembler]

Dagnir said:

In a word...ignorance.


The thing I don't understand is the people that know they are wrong but then continue to pronounce it that way.


It's being proud of being ignorant which is very bizarre!

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