What do you pay for School transport ?
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Dodsy said:
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Does everyone else have the same ? Its not like we have a choice as they now have to stay at school until 18.
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not entirely correct is it ? Does everyone else have the same ? Its not like we have a choice as they now have to stay at school until 18.
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rather the law requires 16- 18s to stay in education ( at a school or FE college ) or to be undertaking an approved job with training / apprenticeship ...
gus607 said:
I have to disagree here, isn't DLA/PIP for such costs ? Sorry I can't sympathise with this.
No sympathy required i was just curious what others were paying. The point is that hes still at the same school studying the same things but now he has to pay.If it cane across that im moaning that wasnt the intention as the cost is covered by PIP i was really just interested in what others were paying.
mph1977 said:
not entirely correct is it ?
rather the law requires 16- 18s to stay in education ( at a school or FE college ) or to be undertaking an approved job with training / apprenticeship ...
Correct. Given the level of savings LAs are required to make its inevitable that non-statutory provision will be charged for. You'll also find that the average cost of providing Post 16 SEN Transport is eye wateringly high. The figure varies depending on the type of LA but will be many thousands. Therefore still massively subsidised. rather the law requires 16- 18s to stay in education ( at a school or FE college ) or to be undertaking an approved job with training / apprenticeship ...
Dolf Stoppard said:
mph1977 said:
not entirely correct is it ?
rather the law requires 16- 18s to stay in education ( at a school or FE college ) or to be undertaking an approved job with training / apprenticeship ...
Correct. Given the level of savings LAs are required to make its inevitable that non-statutory provision will be charged for. You'll also find that the average cost of providing Post 16 SEN Transport is eye wateringly high. The figure varies depending on the type of LA but will be many thousands. Therefore still massively subsidised. rather the law requires 16- 18s to stay in education ( at a school or FE college ) or to be undertaking an approved job with training / apprenticeship ...
Dodsy said:
I feel like Im being stitched up by the coucil - my Son is now 16 and has free transport to school.
We have a ridiculous situation where we live (semi-rural Cheshire) as the council has started charging for transport for all senior school kids from our village to go to the designated catchment senior school - because by walking distance there's another (more urban located) school closer, even though that's not the catchment school and anyway is massively oversubscribed! For families with a couple of kids at senior school it's a chunky amount of money they're now having to pay.
Pommygranite said:
Can I ask what being autistic has to do with it?
Because the child has special educational needs (SEN) they attend a non-mainstream, ie. special school.Chances are this is many miles from home with no practical way for parents to take them too and from. They are then reliant on transport provided for which they have no option but to pay whatever charge is imposed. It's not an unreasonable amount and as already stated will involve escort staff etc so the real cost is far higher. But, £6-800 a year especially if you have more than one child at the school is a lump of money.
jonamv8 said:
I dont see your point. But im glad my tax pays the other 6k it probably costs.
I have a dog, i have to pay vets bills, should that be free. If i didnt like it i wouldnt have had a dog. You chose to have a kid, so you got to pay for what your kid needs tbh
Do you really think he chose to have a child with Aspergers????I have a dog, i have to pay vets bills, should that be free. If i didnt like it i wouldnt have had a dog. You chose to have a kid, so you got to pay for what your kid needs tbh
There's plenty of people on here who try to justify their lifestyle choice not to have children by moaning about how they're not contributing to society's costs for raising children (despite the fact that they, along with everyone else, would be royally f
ked within a decade or so if everyone stopped having kids), but I've yet to see anyone quite so callous and insensitive as to compare their bloody dog to a child with a disability!A little off track but let me comment about why its needed. Both my sons attend a special school as no mainstream school can meet their needs. Its about 40 minutes each way in a taxi. I work so cant take them my wife has health problems making driving that far difficult.
Yes it costs a lot of money but they will both come out of education with qualifications and life skills that mean they will get jobs and be tax paying contributors to society for the next 40 years. Or they could just sit at home and not go to school (this was the councils preferred option) and then spend the rest of their lives on benefits.
I think a few years of DLA and taxis is a very worthwhile investment for the tax payer as the return on investment is huge.
The amount of tax i pay is eye watering and covers the taxi cost 10 times over so i dont feel bad at all about having the council pay.
Yes it costs a lot of money but they will both come out of education with qualifications and life skills that mean they will get jobs and be tax paying contributors to society for the next 40 years. Or they could just sit at home and not go to school (this was the councils preferred option) and then spend the rest of their lives on benefits.
I think a few years of DLA and taxis is a very worthwhile investment for the tax payer as the return on investment is huge.
The amount of tax i pay is eye watering and covers the taxi cost 10 times over so i dont feel bad at all about having the council pay.
OP, there's a lot of information in your last post that would have been better placed in you OP, given your circumstances. The thread posts following would likely have been different.
Just saying.
One of my nephews is 12 and is autistic. He too attends a special needs school, but in the U.S. Being that my brother pays such high property taxes for living in an area with such good schools, the yellow school bus picks up and drops off my nephew from his front door, at no extra cost. The property taxes, though, are astronomical. Something like $200 of the total/month goes to local schools. Everyone who lives in the area pays the same tax rates even if they don't have children.
Conversely, my children attend different high schools. One school is +/- 15miles away, the other is 1.5 miles away. Don't ask!!
They both have free buses to/from school, which they'll only finish attending when they've done their Baccalaureate, aged 18. My property taxes are low. My income tax isn't.
Just saying.
One of my nephews is 12 and is autistic. He too attends a special needs school, but in the U.S. Being that my brother pays such high property taxes for living in an area with such good schools, the yellow school bus picks up and drops off my nephew from his front door, at no extra cost. The property taxes, though, are astronomical. Something like $200 of the total/month goes to local schools. Everyone who lives in the area pays the same tax rates even if they don't have children.
Conversely, my children attend different high schools. One school is +/- 15miles away, the other is 1.5 miles away. Don't ask!!
They both have free buses to/from school, which they'll only finish attending when they've done their Baccalaureate, aged 18. My property taxes are low. My income tax isn't.
Edited by 5potTurbo on Sunday 1st May 10:01
Kermit power said:
jonamv8 said:
I dont see your point. But im glad my tax pays the other 6k it probably costs.
I have a dog, i have to pay vets bills, should that be free. If i didnt like it i wouldnt have had a dog. You chose to have a kid, so you got to pay for what your kid needs tbh
Do you really think he chose to have a child with Aspergers????I have a dog, i have to pay vets bills, should that be free. If i didnt like it i wouldnt have had a dog. You chose to have a kid, so you got to pay for what your kid needs tbh
There's plenty of people on here who try to justify their lifestyle choice not to have children by moaning about how they're not contributing to society's costs for raising children (despite the fact that they, along with everyone else, would be royally f
ked within a decade or so if everyone stopped having kids), but I've yet to see anyone quite so callous and insensitive as to compare their bloody dog to a child with a disability!5potTurbo said:
OP, there's a lot of information in your last post that would have been better placed in you OP, given your circumstances. The thread posts following would likely have been different.
Just saying.
Should he have really needed to explain further though? Shouldn't the default position be to give people the benefit of the doubt at the very least?Just saying.
Admittedly he finished 18 months ago but my brother has mild speech and language alongside learning issues, used to go to school in battersea, we lived in Orpington.
Don't know what it was but after a bit of wrangling he got a FOC taxi to and from school daily and his school fees paid by the LA. They tried means testing all allowances but when told to sling their hook they ended up paying for all after a little to and fro.
He didn't get any form of normal benefit or transport allowance though
Don't know what it was but after a bit of wrangling he got a FOC taxi to and from school daily and his school fees paid by the LA. They tried means testing all allowances but when told to sling their hook they ended up paying for all after a little to and fro.
He didn't get any form of normal benefit or transport allowance though
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