A bit council Vol 2
Discussion
austinsmirk said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3843966/...
You decide on the morals here of P taking .......... I fully understand the pain and grief a parent must feel when they're child is ill, the need to take the pain from them, the desire to swap places with them, but...........
and then of course the girl is called Tarly and the mother Kory.
Where do people even find these names ? by putting their hands in scrabble bags and drawing letters out ?
Netherton Syndrome? Named after the suburb of Dudley by any chance? You decide on the morals here of P taking .......... I fully understand the pain and grief a parent must feel when they're child is ill, the need to take the pain from them, the desire to swap places with them, but...........
and then of course the girl is called Tarly and the mother Kory.
Where do people even find these names ? by putting their hands in scrabble bags and drawing letters out ?
"The healthcare assistant, from Sprotbrough, South Yorkshire"
deffo sounds Cahncil!
kowalski655 said:
Was at Clydebank shopping centre the other day(itself a mecca for chavs e.g. a Poundland AND a Poundworld next door to each other...handy for comparing the best deals) when I saw this
As if the lit up buildings are not bad enough, see the lampshade on that gold thing...it ROTATES!
And not slowly to give a calming effect at night,at about 45RPM
That's your porch really isn't it lol As if the lit up buildings are not bad enough, see the lampshade on that gold thing...it ROTATES!
And not slowly to give a calming effect at night,at about 45RPM
About 10-12 years ago, I used to work for HMRC and on certain occasions I would have meetings with people claiming tax credits. Some were genuinely in need of the money to make ends meet. Others really weren't.
A few examples that I remember from dealing with them.
1) All of the claims for emergency payments of tax credits seemed to happen on a Friday. Usually I'd see one or two of the claimants in the pub up the road if I went for an after work pint, but one Friday night there were 5 of them in there. Good to see the emergency payments needed for food were well spent.
2) A girl who was about 16 stubbed out her cigarette on the windowsill outside then came in demanding milk tokens for her baby as she didn't have money for milk. We didn't deal with milk tokens. I hated that I was not allowed to point out a pint of milk cost about the same as the fag she'd just put out.
3) I got fed up with one couple coming in every week claiming that they were being underpaid, so I decided to run through their full claim to make sure the details were correct. When we got to the earnings section, he claimed he'd earned £4000 in the last year, but had also ticked that he worked at least 32 hours a week. I confirmed with him that was correct, then pointed out that he needed to speak to the minimum wage people before us as he was being massively underpaid. When he left I checked the computer system and he was actually on about £70k a year. I passed the details to the compliance team. That sort of BS was pretty normal, but usually by £5-10k rather than £65k.
4) One of the families that repeatedly 'needed' an emergency payment would bring their brats in with them (even though the kids should have been in school) every week when they made their claim. They had 3 kids, between about 4 and 10 and the little sods were allowed to run riot. One time, one of the kids pulled the power cable out of the back of my pc while I was using it to sort out their claim. When asked why I had stopped doing anything I let them know it was because their kid had pulled out the power cable. Apparently I was being rude and difficult by telling them that, they actually denied the kid had done it even though a colleague saw him do it. Worked out well for me as I no longer had to have interviews with the tax credit claimants.
A few examples that I remember from dealing with them.
1) All of the claims for emergency payments of tax credits seemed to happen on a Friday. Usually I'd see one or two of the claimants in the pub up the road if I went for an after work pint, but one Friday night there were 5 of them in there. Good to see the emergency payments needed for food were well spent.
2) A girl who was about 16 stubbed out her cigarette on the windowsill outside then came in demanding milk tokens for her baby as she didn't have money for milk. We didn't deal with milk tokens. I hated that I was not allowed to point out a pint of milk cost about the same as the fag she'd just put out.
3) I got fed up with one couple coming in every week claiming that they were being underpaid, so I decided to run through their full claim to make sure the details were correct. When we got to the earnings section, he claimed he'd earned £4000 in the last year, but had also ticked that he worked at least 32 hours a week. I confirmed with him that was correct, then pointed out that he needed to speak to the minimum wage people before us as he was being massively underpaid. When he left I checked the computer system and he was actually on about £70k a year. I passed the details to the compliance team. That sort of BS was pretty normal, but usually by £5-10k rather than £65k.
4) One of the families that repeatedly 'needed' an emergency payment would bring their brats in with them (even though the kids should have been in school) every week when they made their claim. They had 3 kids, between about 4 and 10 and the little sods were allowed to run riot. One time, one of the kids pulled the power cable out of the back of my pc while I was using it to sort out their claim. When asked why I had stopped doing anything I let them know it was because their kid had pulled out the power cable. Apparently I was being rude and difficult by telling them that, they actually denied the kid had done it even though a colleague saw him do it. Worked out well for me as I no longer had to have interviews with the tax credit claimants.
Kernowlokal said:
About 10-12 years ago, I used to work for HMRC and on certain occasions I would have meetings with people claiming tax credits. Some were genuinely in need of the money to make ends meet. Others really weren't.
A few examples that I remember from dealing with them.
1) All of the claims for emergency payments of tax credits seemed to happen on a Friday. Usually I'd see one or two of the claimants in the pub up the road if I went for an after work pint, but one Friday night there were 5 of them in there. Good to see the emergency payments needed for food were well spent.
2) A girl who was about 16 stubbed out her cigarette on the windowsill outside then came in demanding milk tokens for her baby as she didn't have money for milk. We didn't deal with milk tokens. I hated that I was not allowed to point out a pint of milk cost about the same as the fag she'd just put out.
3) I got fed up with one couple coming in every week claiming that they were being underpaid, so I decided to run through their full claim to make sure the details were correct. When we got to the earnings section, he claimed he'd earned £4000 in the last year, but had also ticked that he worked at least 32 hours a week. I confirmed with him that was correct, then pointed out that he needed to speak to the minimum wage people before us as he was being massively underpaid. When he left I checked the computer system and he was actually on about £70k a year. I passed the details to the compliance team. That sort of BS was pretty normal, but usually by £5-10k rather than £65k.
4) One of the families that repeatedly 'needed' an emergency payment would bring their brats in with them (even though the kids should have been in school) every week when they made their claim. They had 3 kids, between about 4 and 10 and the little sods were allowed to run riot. One time, one of the kids pulled the power cable out of the back of my pc while I was using it to sort out their claim. When asked why I had stopped doing anything I let them know it was because their kid had pulled out the power cable. Apparently I was being rude and difficult by telling them that, they actually denied the kid had done it even though a colleague saw him do it. Worked out well for me as I no longer had to have interviews with the tax credit claimants.
Sounds a right laugh!A few examples that I remember from dealing with them.
1) All of the claims for emergency payments of tax credits seemed to happen on a Friday. Usually I'd see one or two of the claimants in the pub up the road if I went for an after work pint, but one Friday night there were 5 of them in there. Good to see the emergency payments needed for food were well spent.
2) A girl who was about 16 stubbed out her cigarette on the windowsill outside then came in demanding milk tokens for her baby as she didn't have money for milk. We didn't deal with milk tokens. I hated that I was not allowed to point out a pint of milk cost about the same as the fag she'd just put out.
3) I got fed up with one couple coming in every week claiming that they were being underpaid, so I decided to run through their full claim to make sure the details were correct. When we got to the earnings section, he claimed he'd earned £4000 in the last year, but had also ticked that he worked at least 32 hours a week. I confirmed with him that was correct, then pointed out that he needed to speak to the minimum wage people before us as he was being massively underpaid. When he left I checked the computer system and he was actually on about £70k a year. I passed the details to the compliance team. That sort of BS was pretty normal, but usually by £5-10k rather than £65k.
4) One of the families that repeatedly 'needed' an emergency payment would bring their brats in with them (even though the kids should have been in school) every week when they made their claim. They had 3 kids, between about 4 and 10 and the little sods were allowed to run riot. One time, one of the kids pulled the power cable out of the back of my pc while I was using it to sort out their claim. When asked why I had stopped doing anything I let them know it was because their kid had pulled out the power cable. Apparently I was being rude and difficult by telling them that, they actually denied the kid had done it even though a colleague saw him do it. Worked out well for me as I no longer had to have interviews with the tax credit claimants.
Oh don't- my wife works for the HMRC. dealt with taxes for years. recently been doing tax credits so for the first time in her life she's started to deal with the underclass. As she says, I'm used to dealing with (obviously PH'ers) on £100,000's per annum trying to get tax back on powerfully engined petrol cars or even celebrities.........now its Shaniqua and her f ing kids iz starvin innit love.
Its as you say though: everyone claiming the max they can, at the limits of the system. As she starts processing claims, apparently you can sense the pack of lies being told to you.
amazingly "concentrix" ??? who were auditing family tax credits are due to have their contract terminated soon because they are stopping too many claims due to fraud.
this isn't politically popular: thus all change, for the worse.
On an amusing note, just dealt with a bloke who claims he had lead poisoning as a child (he's now 60) because his mother used to burn car batteries on an open fire in the house to keep them warm.
Now that, I've never heard before !!!!
Its as you say though: everyone claiming the max they can, at the limits of the system. As she starts processing claims, apparently you can sense the pack of lies being told to you.
amazingly "concentrix" ??? who were auditing family tax credits are due to have their contract terminated soon because they are stopping too many claims due to fraud.
this isn't politically popular: thus all change, for the worse.
On an amusing note, just dealt with a bloke who claims he had lead poisoning as a child (he's now 60) because his mother used to burn car batteries on an open fire in the house to keep them warm.
Now that, I've never heard before !!!!
Kernowlokal said:
3) I got fed up with one couple coming in every week claiming that they were being underpaid, so I decided to run through their full claim to make sure the details were correct. When we got to the earnings section, he claimed he'd earned £4000 in the last year, but had also ticked that he worked at least 32 hours a week. I confirmed with him that was correct, then pointed out that he needed to speak to the minimum wage people before us as he was being massively underpaid. When he left I checked the computer system and he was actually on about £70k a year. I passed the details to the compliance team. That sort of BS was pretty normal, but usually by £5-10k rather than £65k.
I can understand if they're self employed, so often you might end up doing more hours than you originally bill for, but how the hell did he get accepted for tax credits when on £70k a year and what information was on your computer that highlighted this exactly? Oakey said:
Kernowlokal said:
3) I got fed up with one couple coming in every week claiming that they were being underpaid, so I decided to run through their full claim to make sure the details were correct. When we got to the earnings section, he claimed he'd earned £4000 in the last year, but had also ticked that he worked at least 32 hours a week. I confirmed with him that was correct, then pointed out that he needed to speak to the minimum wage people before us as he was being massively underpaid. When he left I checked the computer system and he was actually on about £70k a year. I passed the details to the compliance team. That sort of BS was pretty normal, but usually by £5-10k rather than £65k.
I can understand if they're self employed, so often you might end up doing more hours than you originally bill for, but how the hell did he get accepted for tax credits when on £70k a year and what information was on your computer that highlighted this exactly? Oakey said:
I can understand if they're self employed, so often you might end up doing more hours than you originally bill for, but how the hell did he get accepted for tax credits when on £70k a year and what information was on your computer that highlighted this exactly?
Like most government IT, everything was on separate systems, so the people in the tax credit office didn't have the same PAYE system or Self Assessment systems that I had. Normally, you wouldn't have details of someone's pay on the PAYE system until after the end of the tax year, so they filed the tax credit claim with an estimated income for the year and had to come in/call to adjust it if their income was different to the estimate. For some reason, some employers filed figures through the year and that is what caught that guy out as we were about half way through that year and his income was £35k ish, the previous year was £70k ish, and year before that was £62k or something, so it wasn't like it was a blip.In theory, his PAYE earnings under his NI number should have roughly tallied up with what he'd entered on the claim form for tax credits, when the P60 information was received the following April. If they were outside whatever tolerance was set by HMRC, the difference would have been collected the following year.
I am in Spain on holiday at the moment (which is quite council) but it does give you an insight into these things so here is my observations.
San Miguel.
Places who sell cups of tetley tea/Nescafé (with biscuits) for €1.50.
Ditto for full English breakfasts and Sunday roasts.
Carling, John Smiths are strongbow being advertised as a good thing.
Menus with pictures.
People who walk around in baseball vests and gold chains.
Family units who are blobs on legs.
People who 'like' Blackpool.
Ink.
Teenage girls dressing like strippers.
Paying for everything on the card because you can pay it off over the next 6 months.
Buying the red tops at inflated prices so you know what is going on at home.
San Miguel.
Places who sell cups of tetley tea/Nescafé (with biscuits) for €1.50.
Ditto for full English breakfasts and Sunday roasts.
Carling, John Smiths are strongbow being advertised as a good thing.
Menus with pictures.
People who walk around in baseball vests and gold chains.
Family units who are blobs on legs.
People who 'like' Blackpool.
Ink.
Teenage girls dressing like strippers.
Paying for everything on the card because you can pay it off over the next 6 months.
Buying the red tops at inflated prices so you know what is going on at home.
KTF said:
I am in Spain on holiday at the moment (which is quite council) but it does give you an insight into these things so here is my observations.
San Miguel.
Places who sell cups of tetley tea/Nescafé (with biscuits) for €1.50.
Ditto for full English breakfasts and Sunday roasts.
Carling, John Smiths are strongbow being advertised as a good thing.
Menus with pictures.
People who walk around in baseball vests and gold chains.
Family units who are blobs on legs.
People who 'like' Blackpool.
Ink.
Teenage girls dressing like strippers.
Paying for everything on the card because you can pay it off over the next 6 months.
Buying the red tops at inflated prices so you know what is going on at home.
No tellys on showing re runs of Only Fools and Horses? Any bars calling themselves the Tartan Arms?San Miguel.
Places who sell cups of tetley tea/Nescafé (with biscuits) for €1.50.
Ditto for full English breakfasts and Sunday roasts.
Carling, John Smiths are strongbow being advertised as a good thing.
Menus with pictures.
People who walk around in baseball vests and gold chains.
Family units who are blobs on legs.
People who 'like' Blackpool.
Ink.
Teenage girls dressing like strippers.
Paying for everything on the card because you can pay it off over the next 6 months.
Buying the red tops at inflated prices so you know what is going on at home.
Johnnytheboy said:
KTF said:
Menus with pictures.
So true!Mildly OT, but this is the reason I never order dessert in a curry house, those pics are so off-putting!
fatboy18 said:
o tellys on showing re runs of Only Fools and Horses? Any bars calling themselves the Tartan Arms?
In the bright lights resort close by there is the 'flower of Scotland' and at least 3 Irish bars (one called the Dublin something, the other paddys and I forget the third) all seemingly owned by the same person.KTF said:
Johnnytheboy said:
KTF said:
Menus with pictures.
So true!Mildly OT, but this is the reason I never order dessert in a curry house, those pics are so off-putting!
And surely it's not a proper Spanish holiday if at some point you don't find yourself staring at four faded & seemingly identical photos of paella on a laminated menu?
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