A bit council Vol 2

[Mr Snrub]

nicanary said:

I've said it before, and I'll repeat it - it's time to return to the use of the workhouse. No job, no money? Then you have to repay the authorities (and ultimately the tax payer) by doing something useful to society by providing your labour in return for food and housing. There's no point in offering what is effectively a free home if the tenant is incapable of maintaining it and behaving in an acceptable manner. There are plenty of decent folk looking for an affordable home.

I've been a wee bit right-wing in previous posts, suggesting work camps. The introduction to these peoples' lives of healthy food and some exercise (i.e. wotk). It needn't be extreme in its regime, just a way of pointing out to them that their freeloading days are over.

Just to clarify, as I always do with these kind of posts, I assume if you're called into the office tomorrow morning and told your services are no longer required you will be quite happy to move into said workhouse/camp?

[schmunk]

nonsequitur said:

Morningside said:

R1gtr said:

Plymo said:

Boob jobs being advertised on TV... With a pay monthly option (Of course)

Where? May treat the missus, it is Valentine's after all!

Is that per boob? Like they do with eye procedures.

Two for one special offer?

Just don't go for the offer on the second boob...

Edited by schmunk on Thursday 16th February 00:53

[littlebasher]

^^ You make me wish i had 3 hands....






(I would have quoted to include the image, but the new T&C's scared me off!)

[Tom_C76]

Mr Snrub said:

nicanary said:

I've said it before, and I'll repeat it - it's time to return to the use of the workhouse. No job, no money? Then you have to repay the authorities (and ultimately the tax payer) by doing something useful to society by providing your labour in return for food and housing. There's no point in offering what is effectively a free home if the tenant is incapable of maintaining it and behaving in an acceptable manner. There are plenty of decent folk looking for an affordable home.

I've been a wee bit right-wing in previous posts, suggesting work camps. The introduction to these peoples' lives of healthy food and some exercise (i.e. wotk). It needn't be extreme in its regime, just a way of pointing out to them that their freeloading days are over.

Just to clarify, as I always do with these kind of posts, I assume if you're called into the office tomorrow morning and told your services are no longer required you will be quite happy to move into said workhouse/camp?

If I had used up all of my savings and sold all of my unnecessary possessions then it would seem reasonable to me. It's really not a myth that a significant number of social housing tenants have Sky, fags and booze but can't afford to feed the kids properly cos the don't get enough benefits...

[nicanary]

Tom_C76 said:

Mr Snrub said:

nicanary said:

I've said it before, and I'll repeat it - it's time to return to the use of the workhouse. No job, no money? Then you have to repay the authorities (and ultimately the tax payer) by doing something useful to society by providing your labour in return for food and housing. There's no point in offering what is effectively a free home if the tenant is incapable of maintaining it and behaving in an acceptable manner. There are plenty of decent folk looking for an affordable home.

I've been a wee bit right-wing in previous posts, suggesting work camps. The introduction to these peoples' lives of healthy food and some exercise (i.e. wotk). It needn't be extreme in its regime, just a way of pointing out to them that their freeloading days are over.

Just to clarify, as I always do with these kind of posts, I assume if you're called into the office tomorrow morning and told your services are no longer required you will be quite happy to move into said workhouse/camp?

If I had used up all of my savings and sold all of my unnecessary possessions then it would seem reasonable to me. It's really not a myth that a significant number of social housing tenants have Sky, fags and booze but can't afford to feed the kids properly cos the don't get enough benefits...

I wasn't suggesting the plan would be aimed at people just down on thir luck - I've been out of work myself back when it was about £45pw jobseekers allowance. I managed to feed myself healthily, pay my utility bills on time and still put a few quids' worth of petrol in my car to go looking for work.

I was thinking more of the families mentioned on this thread, generations of permanently unemployed who think they've got some sort of entitlement. Where do they think the money for their benefits comes from? Make 'em work for it.

[Type R Tom]

Linked to the theme above of free money. Is going to university, getting a massive student loan then never paying it back due to not earning enough or having children and not working again council?

Extra points if the degree is in a useless subject?

[V8mate]

Type R Tom said:

Linked to the theme above of free money. Is going to university, getting a massive loan then never paying it back due to not earning enough or having children and not working again council?

No. Stupid policy is stupid.

[Rick101]

Watching terrestrial TV for the first time in a while (council in itself) and witnessed what looks to be a family of crack addicts advertising The Postcode Lottery.
That was followed by a quick quid payday lender advert and finally maybe tying into the posts above an advert for a program featuring council types getting a year's benefits as lump a sum. Tonight at 9pm on Channel 5. Don't miss it!

[Jimmy Recard]

Type R Tom said:

Linked to the theme above of free money. Is going to university, getting a massive student loan then never paying it back due to not earning enough or having children and not working again council?

Extra points if the degree is in a useless subject?

I guess that people who went to uni in the 1970s and 1980s on full grants must be council because they didn't pay for it directly.

[Goaty Bill 2]

nicanary said:

I wasn't suggesting the plan would be aimed at people just down on thir luck - I've been out of work myself back when it was about £45pw jobseekers allowance. I managed to feed myself healthily, pay my utility bills on time and still put a few quids' worth of petrol in my car to go looking for work.

I was thinking more of the families mentioned on this thread, generations of permanently unemployed who think they've got some sort of entitlement. Where do they think the money for their benefits comes from? Make 'em work for it.

To use the vernacular; "I hear what you're saying", but;
It always starts that way though doesn't it?

Then who decides which is which, and how do we know they are getting it right doing it correctly?
God knows modern history has enough examples we could learn from.
I could recommend a few books, but I expect you know the story already

[Stickyfinger]

Jimmy Recard said:

I guess that people who went to uni in the 1970s and 1980s on full grants must be council because they didn't pay for it directly.

No David (give me a knighthood cus I have tats) Beckham studies in the 70/80's

[Type R Tom]

Jimmy Recard said:

Type R Tom said:

Linked to the theme above of free money. Is going to university, getting a massive student loan then never paying it back due to not earning enough or having children and not working again council?

Extra points if the degree is in a useless subject?

I guess that people who went to uni in the 1970s and 1980s on full grants must be council because they didn't pay for it directly.

I don't think that's a fair comparison as (I guess) it was a level playing field that applied to everyone back then? I'm referring to people who won't ever pay vs people who do fully pay back their commitment.

I'm also guessing people who went to university back then did "proper" degrees and have probably paid a fair bit of tax due to earning more. Although I would imagine there would have been people who went to uni but then never worked again back then too.

[nicanary]

Goaty Bill 2 said:

nicanary said:

I wasn't suggesting the plan would be aimed at people just down on thir luck - I've been out of work myself back when it was about £45pw jobseekers allowance. I managed to feed myself healthily, pay my utility bills on time and still put a few quids' worth of petrol in my car to go looking for work.

I was thinking more of the families mentioned on this thread, generations of permanently unemployed who think they've got some sort of entitlement. Where do they think the money for their benefits comes from? Make 'em work for it.

To use the vernacular; "I hear what you're saying", but;
It always starts that way though doesn't it?

Then who decides which is which, and how do we know they are getting it right doing it correctly?
God knows modern history has enough examples we could learn from.
I could recommend a few books, but I expect you know the story already

I'm not suggesting emblems sewn onto their clothes! I also hear what you're saying. Maybe there's a mid-way point in my plan which will satisfy most of us.

[gazza285]

briang9 said:

Adenauer said:

Derek and Clive wrote a song about it.

aye, but there was no blanket...

Jump, you fker, jump...

[Goaty Bill 2]

nicanary said:

Goaty Bill 2 said:

nicanary said:

I wasn't suggesting the plan would be aimed at people just down on thir luck - I've been out of work myself back when it was about £45pw jobseekers allowance. I managed to feed myself healthily, pay my utility bills on time and still put a few quids' worth of petrol in my car to go looking for work.

I was thinking more of the families mentioned on this thread, generations of permanently unemployed who think they've got some sort of entitlement. Where do they think the money for their benefits comes from? Make 'em work for it.

To use the vernacular; "I hear what you're saying", but;
It always starts that way though doesn't it?

Then who decides which is which, and how do we know they are getting it right doing it correctly?
God knows modern history has enough examples we could learn from.
I could recommend a few books, but I expect you know the story already

I'm not suggesting emblems sewn onto their clothes! I also hear what you're saying. Maybe there's a mid-way point in my plan which will satisfy most of us.

I was absolutely certain you weren't suggesting any such thing


But sure, I'll start that plan now (as I expect you will be busy), and you can all follow.
Don't worry, we'll 'find a way' to deal with the dissenters as we go.
Good enough?
No?
That's okay, it won't matter once I get started


I am sure I am not original in this, but I haven't seen/heard anyone else articulate it.
(please inform me if anyone can point me to it's equivalent by someone more quotable than a goat)

Even if one does not have the heart, or the desire to be generous enough to help the poor, the lazy, the unredeemable, one should at least then be selfish enough to ensure that they are adequately provided for, if only to deter them from the thought of breaking into ones own house and stealing the contents.
There are few people more willing to do violence to others than the fathers and mothers of starving or sick children.

[Don1]

gazza285 said:

briang9 said:

Adenauer said:

Derek and Clive wrote a song about it.

aye, but there was no blanket...

Jump, you fker, jump...

Sounds like a plot for a new games show...

[Bunfighter]

Rick101 said:

Watching terrestrial TV for the first time in a while (council in itself) and witnessed what looks to be a family of crack addicts advertising The Postcode Lottery.
That was followed by a quick quid payday lender advert and finally maybe tying into the posts above an advert for a program featuring council types getting a year's benefits as lump a sum. Tonight at 9pm on Channel 5. Don't miss it!

Tried watching skynews during the day? It's filled with really low-ball pleading adverts.

[Bunfighter]

This thread council? http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[V8mate]

Bunfighter said:

This thread council? http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I always thought the title seemed a bit... 'gay interest'.

[Morningside]

schmunk said:

nonsequitur said:

Morningside said:

R1gtr said:

Plymo said:

Boob jobs being advertised on TV... With a pay monthly option (Of course)

Where? May treat the missus, it is Valentine's after all!

Is that per boob? Like they do with eye procedures.

Two for one special offer?

Just don't go for the offer on the second boob...

Image removed.

Edited by schmunk on Thursday 16th February 00:53

I said you buy one you get one free.

Edited by Big Al. on Thursday 16th February 21:00