Kids quad HELP
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My brother bought his boys mini motos at about that age.
He was fed up with them nicking the ride on lawn mower and his trials bike. His theory was the same as already mentioned, they'll fall off at a lower speed.
He also wanted them to have experience of riding a bike so that when they were old enough to ride one on the road they'd either know what they were doing or would've gone off the idea. They both went off bikes by the time they were sixteen.
He was fed up with them nicking the ride on lawn mower and his trials bike. His theory was the same as already mentioned, they'll fall off at a lower speed.
He also wanted them to have experience of riding a bike so that when they were old enough to ride one on the road they'd either know what they were doing or would've gone off the idea. They both went off bikes by the time they were sixteen.
Roo said:
My brother bought his boys mini motos at about that age.
He was fed up with them nicking the ride on lawn mower and his trials bike. His theory was the same as already mentioned, they'll fall off at a lower speed.
He also wanted them to have experience of riding a bike so that when they were old enough to ride one on the road they'd either know what they were doing or would've gone off the idea. They both went off bikes by the time they were sixteen.
That's really helpful thanks! I think the ride on lawnmower has been a big attraction! He was fed up with them nicking the ride on lawn mower and his trials bike. His theory was the same as already mentioned, they'll fall off at a lower speed.
He also wanted them to have experience of riding a bike so that when they were old enough to ride one on the road they'd either know what they were doing or would've gone off the idea. They both went off bikes by the time they were sixteen.
I came off my own bike at Christmas (knocked off by another road user :-( ) so I actually hoped he wouldn't want to follow my steps! That said he is pretty sensible and I wondered whether a bike might be better. Any idea what make / models your brother bought?
pinchmeimdreamin said:
sadly not that far :-( they have quite big engines too don't they?
novhead said:
Initially he wanted a mini moto but he thinks he will be safer on a quad and I tend to agree. I ride a bike myself and I am very safety conscious.
Bike would be safer. Firstly as he'll feel more vulnerable he may be slower and take more care. Secondly, if / when he crashes and gets thrown over the bars the quad is big and heavy and likely to cause more injuries as it squashes him than being thrown off a motorbike. See Ossie Osborne / Rick Mayall accidents for details.Neil1300r said:
Bike would be safer. Firstly as he'll feel more vulnerable he may be slower and take more care. Secondly, if / when he crashes and gets thrown over the bars the quad is big and heavy and likely to cause more injuries as it squashes him than being thrown off a motorbike. See Ossie Osborne / Rick Mayall accidents for details.
yeah I had that in mind and I talked to him about that, but he said that he would feel safer on 4 wheels and I kinda get that, but equally im worried at the same time! I guess if he has a bike and is wearing the gear, he might bang himself up a bit but wont be, as you say ending up with a heavy machine on his wee body. Major Fallout said:
I think he would LOVE that but they say 14+ years :-s Quads are bloody dangerous things. They aren't 'four wheels' like a car is. When driven with enthusiasm, if you turn the handlebars and you aren't leaning in the right way then they have a tendency to just roll over, with you underneath them.
I'd recommend a bike and to go completely left field I'd point you at a decent electric one. Look at OSET or Kuberg bikes, they do all sizes of kids trials bikes. Electric stuff has come a really long way. Go 2014 or later. You can limit throttle travel and they have switchable maps for beginners. As they get bigger, so do the batteries (and therefore the power].
Best of all, they are SILENT...
I'd recommend a bike and to go completely left field I'd point you at a decent electric one. Look at OSET or Kuberg bikes, they do all sizes of kids trials bikes. Electric stuff has come a really long way. Go 2014 or later. You can limit throttle travel and they have switchable maps for beginners. As they get bigger, so do the batteries (and therefore the power].
Best of all, they are SILENT...
papercup said:
Quads are bloody dangerous things. They aren't 'four wheels' like a car is. When driven with enthusiasm, if you turn the handlebars and you aren't leaning in the right way then they have a tendency to just roll over, with you underneath them.
I'd recommend a bike and to go completely left field I'd point you at a decent electric one. Look at OSET or Kuberg bikes, they do all sizes of kids trials bikes. Electric stuff has come a really long way. Go 2014 or later. You can limit throttle travel and they have switchable maps for beginners. As they get bigger, so do the batteries (and therefore the power].
Best of all, they are SILENT...
Hmm worth a look yes. I shall look at those, thanks. Any idea what battery lives are like though? I'd recommend a bike and to go completely left field I'd point you at a decent electric one. Look at OSET or Kuberg bikes, they do all sizes of kids trials bikes. Electric stuff has come a really long way. Go 2014 or later. You can limit throttle travel and they have switchable maps for beginners. As they get bigger, so do the batteries (and therefore the power].
Best of all, they are SILENT...
novhead said:
Neil1300r said:
Bike would be safer. Firstly as he'll feel more vulnerable he may be slower and take more care. Secondly, if / when he crashes and gets thrown over the bars the quad is big and heavy and likely to cause more injuries as it squashes him than being thrown off a motorbike. See Ossie Osborne / Rick Mayall accidents for details.
yeah I had that in mind and I talked to him about that, but he said that he would feel safer on 4 wheels and I kinda get that, but equally im worried at the same time! I guess if he has a bike and is wearing the gear, he might bang himself up a bit but wont be, as you say ending up with a heavy machine on his wee body. My tuppence, get him a bike, me and my brothers grew up racing beat up old 50cc's around the farm, great fun, and if you fell of no great harm done. We used to put knobbly tires on and massive great sprockets on them so they didn't even go very fast.
We once got our Dad to mow a field that was full of thistles but only mow two tractor widths to make a race circuit, we called it Death Race on account of what coming off into a bed of thisltes felt like......certainly made us more inclined to stay on!
Timmy40 said:
Yes but isn't this the bit where being an adult you explain to him that whist he may feel safer on a quad it's actually potentially much much more dangerous, you could then talk him through some of the more famous people to have nearly killed themselves getting crushed by overturned quads?
My tuppence, get him a bike, me and my brothers grew up racing beat up old 50cc's around the farm, great fun, and if you fell of no great harm done. We used to put knobbly tires on and massive great sprockets on them so they didn't even go very fast.
We once got our Dad to mow a field that was full of thistles but only mow two tractor widths to make a race circuit, we called it Death Race on account of what coming off into a bed of thisltes felt like......certainly made us more inclined to stay on!
haha, good idea re the knobbly tyres etc!My tuppence, get him a bike, me and my brothers grew up racing beat up old 50cc's around the farm, great fun, and if you fell of no great harm done. We used to put knobbly tires on and massive great sprockets on them so they didn't even go very fast.
We once got our Dad to mow a field that was full of thistles but only mow two tractor widths to make a race circuit, we called it Death Race on account of what coming off into a bed of thisltes felt like......certainly made us more inclined to stay on!
Ive had a Yamaha PW80 recommended. Any thoughts?
novhead said:
haha, good idea re the knobbly tyres etc!
Ive had a Yamaha PW80 recommended. Any thoughts?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...Ive had a Yamaha PW80 recommended. Any thoughts?
Edited by Mammasaid on Tuesday 3rd May 16:41
novhead said:
Timmy40 said:
Yes but isn't this the bit where being an adult you explain to him that whist he may feel safer on a quad it's actually potentially much much more dangerous, you could then talk him through some of the more famous people to have nearly killed themselves getting crushed by overturned quads?
My tuppence, get him a bike, me and my brothers grew up racing beat up old 50cc's around the farm, great fun, and if you fell of no great harm done. We used to put knobbly tires on and massive great sprockets on them so they didn't even go very fast.
We once got our Dad to mow a field that was full of thistles but only mow two tractor widths to make a race circuit, we called it Death Race on account of what coming off into a bed of thisltes felt like......certainly made us more inclined to stay on!
haha, good idea re the knobbly tyres etc!My tuppence, get him a bike, me and my brothers grew up racing beat up old 50cc's around the farm, great fun, and if you fell of no great harm done. We used to put knobbly tires on and massive great sprockets on them so they didn't even go very fast.
We once got our Dad to mow a field that was full of thistles but only mow two tractor widths to make a race circuit, we called it Death Race on account of what coming off into a bed of thisltes felt like......certainly made us more inclined to stay on!
Ive had a Yamaha PW80 recommended. Any thoughts?
I would think any lowish powered bike, what I got alot out of is because they were old cheap road bikes we had no fear of dismatling them, changing sprockets, tinkering with gears and brakes.
Happy innocent days, I can still smell the petrol and oil we used to make up in a milk bottle ( they were 2 strokes ).
Btw I would have been about your sons age when I got my first one. Bloody good education in how real things work, and if it gets him out and away from sitting at computer like so many kids so much the better!
Timmy40 said:
We had 50cc, mine was a 'Fizzy' a FS1E I think was the model. It even came with pedals IIRC so you could save some petrol! We soon had those off though.
I would think any lowish powered bike, what I got alot out of is because they were old cheap road bikes we had to fear of dismatling them, changing sprockets, tinkering with gears and brakes.
Happy innocent days, I can still smell the petrol and oil we used to make up in a milk bottle ( they were 2 strokes ).
Btw I would have been about your sons age when I got my first one. Bloody good education in how real things work, and if it gets him out and away from sitting at computer like so many kids so much the better!
he is very outdoorsy and because we live in the country we have no neighbours. He is bored of xbox in 30 mins, he would be outside all day every day, bike, scooter, skateboard, trampoline, etc etc etcI would think any lowish powered bike, what I got alot out of is because they were old cheap road bikes we had to fear of dismatling them, changing sprockets, tinkering with gears and brakes.
Happy innocent days, I can still smell the petrol and oil we used to make up in a milk bottle ( they were 2 strokes ).
Btw I would have been about your sons age when I got my first one. Bloody good education in how real things work, and if it gets him out and away from sitting at computer like so many kids so much the better!
As long as he is safe, sensible and I can keep an eye on him im ok
OP.
I know that you have looked at it all but I am 100% when i say don't get a quad, get an off road kart or an old shed from the scrappie and weld it into first or something.
Quad bikes are, as said, boring as hell at 'normal speed' and death on a stick when you start to push them - i have played on various since i was 10 when they had three wheels and were f
king lethal!
I was captain sensible as a kid and know the mad st i got up to in my off road kart, at 24 i had a few acres and an old Vitara i had on two wheels as many times as on four (bought to teach the then Mrs'kids to drive).
Seriously i know far too many people who have had their lives changed by a quad accident, and that's before we trot out Rik Mayall, Oz Osborne and Joylin Palmer...
I know that you have looked at it all but I am 100% when i say don't get a quad, get an off road kart or an old shed from the scrappie and weld it into first or something.
Quad bikes are, as said, boring as hell at 'normal speed' and death on a stick when you start to push them - i have played on various since i was 10 when they had three wheels and were f
king lethal!I was captain sensible as a kid and know the mad s
t i got up to in my off road kart, at 24 i had a few acres and an old Vitara i had on two wheels as many times as on four (bought to teach the then Mrs'kids to drive).Seriously i know far too many people who have had their lives changed by a quad accident, and that's before we trot out Rik Mayall, Oz Osborne and Joylin Palmer...
Thanks for this.
I think (I hope) that he will be more sensible than me,but I definitely have some food for thought now. Originally I thought that bike might be better, but then had leaned towards the quad bike and now I'm leaning back again. Question I then need to ask myself is whether a mini Moto are a trail bike would be the best type of bike. Aarrrggh
I think (I hope) that he will be more sensible than me,but I definitely have some food for thought now. Originally I thought that bike might be better, but then had leaned towards the quad bike and now I'm leaning back again. Question I then need to ask myself is whether a mini Moto are a trail bike would be the best type of bike. Aarrrggh
Rude-boy said:
Seriously i know far too many people who have had their lives changed by a quad accident, and that's before we trot out Rik Mayall, Oz Osborne and Joylin Palmer...
Same reason for not riding a motorbike on the road yet many people still do it.I know many people who haven't had their lives changed by a quad accident (and not just people who haven't been on quads
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