Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

Misfits, Dad's Army Types et al...

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jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Willy Nilly said:
I feel truly honored.

As a naive newcomer to the world of 4x4 Response, I have vision in my mind of Response HQ where women in a smokey room push little Land Rovers around a large map of the rescue site with them snooker cue things like they did in WW2 while a Bryl Creamed General listens to his crackling CB while puffing on a Woodbine and occasionally barking orders. Tell me this is true, tell me.

A photo of the HQ was posted a few pages back....can't tell you which page....OpSec you know!

In any case it will take many years of service before you are allowed to visit Gold Command.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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jdw100 said:
Shakermaker said:
To add to my earlier post... And having read this entire thread

I think I narrowly avoided becoming one of these types when I was a bit younger.

I was 18, and had just started a brand new summertime job eager to earn a few quid before heading to uni.

The issue was that this job was at Gatwick Airport. Oh my goodness, this is the kind of the place where the people described in the thread above are able to thrive, and worse, possibly breed.

Being young and naive, i was keen to make a good impression and do the job right, and so soon after my induction training I was off, with my access nearly all areas airport pass, a Hi vis jacket and a radio. I felt like Charlie big potatoes almost as soon as I worked out the basics of my job. People came to ask me things, and I knew the answer to these things, and of course, because I worked there, I was privy to seeing all the secret stuff that none of you lot get to see (unless you watched BBC Airport like seemingly everyone else in the 1990s... The secret stuff at Heathrow is nearly the same)

Thankfully, someone managed to steer me just off course of becoming 'that guy' before it was too late, but witnessing the airport staff it's clear that these people are regular inductees - they aren't actual security staff, but mandatory security knowledge gives them enough self belief that they can tell people not to do things 'for security reasons' and make overt displays of using their radio to call it all in, and using in many cases their own invented version of three letter acronyms and radio speak with their mates, to the bemusement of all others.
I understand where you are coming from.

Back in mid 90's I was involved in setting up a new high tech (especially for the area) factory in North Wales.

Once up and running and in production I was issued with an internal pager...clipped it on my belt. Then a pager linked to our freeze drying systems so any failure of equipment and I would be paged...on my belt. Then we had photo ID cards for restricted areas etc....on my belt. I was an early adopter of the mobile phone....yes you guessed it (to my shame) belt holster.....(kill me now).

I would swan around after work in my Next shirt and tie with these four items clipped to my person...bear in mind this was North Wales at that time so a lot of people were still amazed by seeing a mobile phone.

I felt I was mr mega important Charlie fking big potatoes at 22 years old. Think Gareth from the office.....

I waltzed into a take away one one summers day after work, ID badged and with my high tech laden belt bristling with gadgets.

A big Welsh chap day munching on a burger looked up and said "well you look like a proper don't you?" Imagine that in a thick north welsh accent.

He was right - I really did. I was deflated.....embarrassed....who was I trying to impress?

Had a good think about that and next day - left the ID card at work and the internal pager as well.

Had to keep the emergency pager on but stuck my mobile in a jacket pocket.

Whoever that guy was I probably owe him......

Over and out.
yes, that pretty much describes it from how I was as well!



conkerman

3,301 posts

136 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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EFA


jdw100 said:
bear in mind this was North Wales at that time so a lot of people ARE still amazed by seeing a mobile phone.

Vaud

50,597 posts

156 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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jdw100 said:
In any case it will take many years of service before you are allowed to visit Gold Command.
Is there a suitable level for Walts? What is below bronze? Maybe "rust" command? A hastily erected B&Q gazebo with a plastic table with someone half asleep, one eye watching their phone?

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Vaud said:
jdw100 said:
In any case it will take many years of service before you are allowed to visit Gold Command.
Is there a suitable level for Walts? What is below bronze? Maybe "rust" command? A hastily erected B&Q gazebo with a plastic table with someone half asleep, one eye watching their phone?
Someone at the airport tried to interject during a Bronze command meeting during some major disruption, that they would be having their own meeting with their team at what they called "Iron" level... a few of us had to turn away from the meeting chairperson at that one!

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

141 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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I'm late to this one, but it has certainly amused me.

Can nobody simply offer a stuck fellow motorist a short tow without feeling the need to plaster their 4x4 in stickers and lights?

I live rural. I've managed to get stuck myself in a 2WD car, and been out and about in the pickup truck and if I happened across someone stuck, one simply offers them a tow. Once they're good you pull over, un-hitch the tow rope and they say "Thanks mate" and that's the end of it.

It's possible to be a decent human being without all the fantasy bullst that goes on.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

124 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Jamie, you're doing it wrong. You need a go-pro camera and the ability to load it to You Tube. How else will anyone know of your selfless acts.

And I'm concerned you haven't mentioned a risk assessment, nor any course you may have attended.

You're going to tell us all your married and don't live with your mum and neither do you wear rapists glasses.

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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out shouldn't be allowed near a stuck car unless the length of battenberg on your car outstretches the tow rope by at least 1.8:1.

cootuk

918 posts

124 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Is it one eye on this fone?
Forward looking infrared is a must have for finding your objectives at night or in the fog

CoolHands

18,681 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th June 2016
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Don't forget a holster for the communication equipment


Hainey

4,381 posts

201 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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I put a lightbar on my sheddy old Discovery last weekend. Reading this thread makes me feel dirty now hehe

It's certainly been an education though. I know it takes all sorts but these guys are taking the Papa India Sierra Sierra!

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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austinsmirk said:
Jamie, you're doing it wrong. You need a go-pro camera and the ability to load it to You Tube. How else will anyone know of your selfless acts.

And I'm concerned you haven't mentioned a risk assessment, nor any course you may have attended.

You're going to tell us all your married and don't live with your mum and neither do you wear rapists glasses.
Yeah what an amateur!

I was laughing so hard at this, here in the North West Sector 7 Ops command room, that my mum had to pop her head round the door and remind me it's lights out after 22:00.

jdw100

4,126 posts

165 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Shakermaker said:
Vaud said:
jdw100 said:
In any case it will take many years of service before you are allowed to visit Gold Command.
Is there a suitable level for Walts? What is below bronze? Maybe "rust" command? A hastily erected B&Q gazebo with a plastic table with someone half asleep, one eye watching their phone?
Someone at the airport tried to interject during a Bronze command meeting during some major disruption, that they would be having their own meeting with their team at what they called "Iron" level... a few of us had to turn away from the meeting chairperson at that one!
I was caught napping in a Flint level meeting.


mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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jdw100 said:
Shakermaker said:
Vaud said:
jdw100 said:
In any case it will take many years of service before you are allowed to visit Gold Command.
Is there a suitable level for Walts? What is below bronze? Maybe "rust" command? A hastily erected B&Q gazebo with a plastic table with someone half asleep, one eye watching their phone?
Someone at the airport tried to interject during a Bronze command meeting during some major disruption, that they would be having their own meeting with their team at what they called "Iron" level... a few of us had to turn away from the meeting chairperson at that one!
I was caught napping in a Flint level meeting.
^^^^ LOL at above

and despite the piss taking the gold-silver- bronze command levels is legit ( the reason the 'metals' are used is becasue it;s rank / grade insensitive - it is entirely normal for a PC or 'ordinary' Paramedic/ tech to be a bronze commander at a modest event / small multi casualty incident - but trumpton can;t even check a hydrant out without a supervisory grade present ) rank / grade of commanders amy also change depending on the scale / size of the incident / event.


gold command is also really quite boring ... off site usually in one of the 999 services command centres/ Highways Agency control room or the boardroom of an organisation involved in the incident ...



markmullen

15,877 posts

235 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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mph1977 said:
and despite the piss taking the gold-silver- bronze command levels is legit
yes

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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markmullen said:
mph1977 said:
and despite the piss taking the gold-silver- bronze command levels is legit
yes
Oh yes, that I totally get, its the Walt-types adopting it for their own purposes that gets a bit too much for the rest of us.


RizzoTheRat

25,190 posts

193 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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mph1977 said:
gold command is also really quite boring ... off site usually in one of the 999 services command centres/ Highways Agency control room or the boardroom of an organisation involved in the incident ...
A few people got a bit excited when I fell off my chair (really should stop leaning back on chairs), caught the plug for the router with my foot and took down the entire network for a gold HQ. Luckily it was a training exercise not a real emergency and I managed to get the network back before too many people spotted it paperbag

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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I'm thinking about starting Small Hatchback Response. I have unfettered access to a small, Japanese hatchback and would willingly sleep with one eye on the phone, quite possible gripping my pillow tight, in case anyone needed rushing to the shops or their nan picking up from the doctors.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

101 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Willy Nilly said:
I'm thinking about starting Small Hatchback Response. I have unfettered access to a small, Japanese hatchback and would willingly sleep with one eye on the phone, quite possible gripping my pillow tight, in case anyone needed rushing to the shops or their nan picking up from the doctors.
My gran would struggle to get into a standard hatchback now, too low down.

Would need a mini MPV type thing so she doesn't do her hips in!

When we had some serious Christmas flooding a couple of years ago, my wife's train back from london couldn't get to Horsham so I 'braved' driving along the well lit roads in the rain, carefully avoiding all the big puddles in my Mondeo of the time.

When i go to three bridges where the train had stopped, I kindly offered three people a lift with me who needed to get to Horsham as well to save waiting for a taxi, took a grandma, mum and child who looked like they needed it and we're glad of the offer

Should I have put some battenburg and lights on the Mondeo to do this?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Friday 1st July 2016
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Shakermaker said:
Willy Nilly said:
I'm thinking about starting Small Hatchback Response. I have unfettered access to a small, Japanese hatchback and would willingly sleep with one eye on the phone, quite possible gripping my pillow tight, in case anyone needed rushing to the shops or their nan picking up from the doctors.
My gran would struggle to get into a standard hatchback now, too low down.

Would need a mini MPV type thing so she doesn't do her hips in!

When we had some serious Christmas flooding a couple of years ago, my wife's train back from london couldn't get to Horsham so I 'braved' driving along the well lit roads in the rain, carefully avoiding all the big puddles in my Mondeo of the time.

When i go to three bridges where the train had stopped, I kindly offered three people a lift with me who needed to get to Horsham as well to save waiting for a taxi, took a grandma, mum and child who looked like they needed it and we're glad of the offer

Should I have put some battenburg and lights on the Mondeo to do this?
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