Porsche 964 c2 battery replacement

Porsche 964 c2 battery replacement

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mechagran

Original Poster:

124 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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hi there

This is a bit of a silly question (probably) but I do a fair bit of tinkering however I have never (not even on my 67th vehicle) ever had to change a battery myself.

If anyone owns a 964 could they talk me through it - any little things I need to look out for and of course general advice is welcome. I have the battery sat next to car and im sick to death of having to jump it. Tonight is the night!!

Many thanks in advance....

Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Locate battery

Disconnect positive terminal

Disconnect negative terminal

Unbolt battery

Lift out

Lift up new battery

Place new battery where old battery went

Bolt new battery in

Connect negative terminal

Connect positive terminal

Make a cup of tea to celebrate a job well done.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Howard- said:
Locate battery

Disconnect positive terminal

Disconnect negative terminal

Unbolt battery

Lift out

Lift up new battery

Place new battery where old battery went

Bolt new battery in

Connect negative terminal

Connect positive terminal

Make a cup of tea to celebrate a job well done.
You missed a step...

Spend 3 hours searching for Radio Keycode...

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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For unintended consequence's sake, I would ensure that the alarm/immobiliser is in its "disarmed" state (which would include the doors being unlocked) and at least one window is wound down before disconnecting the battery.

mechagran

Original Poster:

124 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Impasse said:
For unintended consequence's sake, I would ensure that the alarm/immobiliser is in its "disarmed" state (which would include the doors being unlocked) and at least one window is wound down before disconnecting the battery.
Thanks for that - I don't think this cobra alarm thing has an "off" setting - just basically doesn't work if the car is dead. It did do one wiesrd thing where it would sort of say"woo-woo" in a pathetic dying sheep sense if the battery was draining. So I unplugged whatever that sensor was under the engine lid.

I hear horror stories of setting fire, welding spanners to bodies (presumably cars) and all sorts of general nastiness....so I thought id ask the gurus.

mechagran

Original Poster:

124 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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FredClogs said:
You missed a step...

Spend 3 hours searching for Radio Keycode...
almost everywhere I have looked has said disconnect negative first.. is there a reason for this and why you don't? Appreciated btw just curious.

mechagran

Original Poster:

124 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Howard- said:
Locate battery

Disconnect positive terminal

Disconnect negative terminal

Unbolt battery

Lift out

Lift up new battery

Place new battery where old battery went

Bolt new battery in

Connect negative terminal

Connect positive terminal

Make a cup of tea to celebrate a job well done.
This is weird my name is actually Howard

Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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mechagran said:
almost everywhere I have looked has said disconnect negative first.. is there a reason for this and why you don't? Appreciated btw just curious.
It doesn't make any difference really in my experience.

mechagran

Original Poster:

124 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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another stupid one - would my battery actually be charged already? Presumably so....but?

Veeayt

3,139 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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mechagran said:
almost everywhere I have looked has said disconnect negative first.. is there a reason for this and why you don't? Appreciated btw just curious.
Usual PH guruship. You asked for that yourself wink

Jollyclub

1,905 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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I've always disconnected the negative first. And reconnected the negative last.

I think it's engineering best practice.

There's a (albeit small) chance you could short the battery if your socket/spanner touches anything while undoing the positive with the negative still connected. ( on negative earth vehicles at least..)

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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mechagran said:
FredClogs said:
You missed a step...

Spend 3 hours searching for Radio Keycode...
almost everywhere I have looked has said disconnect negative first.. is there a reason for this and why you don't? Appreciated btw just curious.
I would disconnect negative first also, that other reply wasn't mine, reason you do negative first would be to prevent any arching, sparking and surges as you disconnect the positive.

mechagran

Original Poster:

124 posts

158 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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superb thanks

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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If you are nervous, connect the new battery using normal wire and crocodile clips BEFORE you remove the old one so that the 12v supply is never interrupted. Keep it all connected together until the new battery is fully installed, then remove the crocodile clips and take away the old battery.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

190 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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Unlock the car with the fob and open / shut driver's door to disable the alarm.

Find a small spare 12v battery (not the new battery), connect this using some spare wire (fused if at all possible, but not essential) positive to positive, negative to negative to the battery connectors on the car making sure you can still undo the terminals with the slave leads on.

Undo whatever is holding the battery down.

Undo the negative terminal first (not really needed if you're using a slave battery as the positive terminal would still arc, but it's best practice).

Undo the positive terminal.

Remove old battery carefully without knocking the slave leads off.

Fit new battery.

Refit positive terminal and tighten.

Refit negative terminal and tighten.

Refit battery hold down device.

Remove slave leads.

Pray the radio code survived.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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jhfozzy said:
....not the new battery
Why?

And who on earth has another small 12v battery kicking around the place?

gilbo

460 posts

200 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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DO NOT disconnect the positive first. If you allow the live lead to touch the bodywork (which will be earthed out through the battery, as you haven't disconnected the negative/earth lead) you can very easily cause an electrical fire. At best you'll blow a few fuses/relays and melt some wiring loom but you'll be amazed how quickly a fire can start from this simple mistake. And the same for reconnecting, make sure the positive is the first to go back on. smile

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Thursday 26th May 2016
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The risk is that the spanner you use on the positive terminal will touch the bodywork BEFORE the terminal has been disconnected. So disconnect the grounded (usually negative) terminal first.

gilbo

460 posts

200 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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The risk is also the residual charge left in the system after the live lead has been removed.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

190 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Ozzie Osmond said:
jhfozzy said:
....not the new battery
Why?

And who on earth has another small 12v battery kicking around the place?
How are you going to get the battery terminals snugly down on the new battery posts with wires connected to them?