pay and display- no change given
Discussion
The best pay and display system I have seen was in Cambridge. Basically - you get 10 minutes for every 10p paid. Regardless of how much change you have on you (within reason) - you can always park for at least some time and you always get what you pay for.
I think all pay and display car parks should work on a similar principle - whereby you get 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes (depending on location) for every 10p you pay.
None of this crap of paying £2 regardless of whether you only need to park for 2 minutes or 2 hours - or not being able to park at all or having to go and find a shop to give you change - just because you find you are 10p short of whatever random parking charge is applied or the machine has decided it doesn't like one of the coins you try to feed it.
I think all pay and display car parks should work on a similar principle - whereby you get 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes (depending on location) for every 10p you pay.
None of this crap of paying £2 regardless of whether you only need to park for 2 minutes or 2 hours - or not being able to park at all or having to go and find a shop to give you change - just because you find you are 10p short of whatever random parking charge is applied or the machine has decided it doesn't like one of the coins you try to feed it.
Moonhawk said:
The best pay and display system I have seen was in Cambridge. Basically - you get 10 minutes for every 10p paid. Regardless of how much change you have on you (within reason) - you can always park for at least some time and you always get what you pay for.
I think all pay and display car parks should work on a similar principle - whereby you get 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes (depending on location) for every 10p you pay.
None of this crap of paying £2 regardless of whether you only need to park for 2 minutes or 2 hours - or not being able to park at all or having to go and find a shop to give you change - just because you find you are 10p short of whatever random parking charge is applied or the machine has decided it doesn't like one of the coins you try to feed it.
I see a problem with this, you're using common sense, fairness and logic, none of which apply in relation to scammy p&d charging (especially at hospitals). I think all pay and display car parks should work on a similar principle - whereby you get 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes (depending on location) for every 10p you pay.
None of this crap of paying £2 regardless of whether you only need to park for 2 minutes or 2 hours - or not being able to park at all or having to go and find a shop to give you change - just because you find you are 10p short of whatever random parking charge is applied or the machine has decided it doesn't like one of the coins you try to feed it.
There's a town centre car park I've been using for some months now to visit a client that was free, you just put your reg in the machine and got a ticket for three hours parking. That changed when I visited again last week and found they now charge £1.80 for three hours. The client said that the council asked local residents and business owners if they wanted to have the pay-and-display setup, and there was a resounding "No" - they wanted to keep it free. So the council applied the payment system anyway.
KingNothing said:
They've just spent six figures upgrading the meters in our town centre to ones where you put in your reg. Council can't seem to work out that for years our town centre has been dying on it's arse, and loads of shops have abandoned ship, so if anything they should have been reducing the costs and making it easier to park there to encourage people to go. Before they upgraded them I believe they wouldn't give change or credit part hours.
My local council (Whitehaven) did a similar thing. The justification was 'Well, people have to go shopping and visit solicitors, so they'll pay.' The ignorant t
t had obviously never heard of the internet, nor realised that you would have to pay people to park in the sthole.Moonhawk said:
The best pay and display system I have seen was in Cambridge. Basically - you get 10 minutes for every 10p paid. Regardless of how much change you have on you (within reason) - you can always park for at least some time and you always get what you pay for.
Where on earth is that? It was about £2.50 (minimum 1 hour) an hour when I was last around there!That any organisation existing purely for the purpose of providing services to members of the public, whose personal money in the form of taxes is used to fund both the services and the wages of those whose responsibility it is to provide those services, should deem it reasonable to implement a system whereby those very people are consistently and intentionally inconvenienced and overcharged, is nothing less than moral bankruptcy.
That private companies do the same should come as no surprise, as the laws and regulations they operate under were written and approved by those selfsame morally bankrupt administrators of our services; the administrators by their own actions do after all provide the prototypical example.
That private companies do the same should come as no surprise, as the laws and regulations they operate under were written and approved by those selfsame morally bankrupt administrators of our services; the administrators by their own actions do after all provide the prototypical example.
eldar said:
KingNothing said:
They've just spent six figures upgrading the meters in our town centre to ones where you put in your reg. Council can't seem to work out that for years our town centre has been dying on it's arse, and loads of shops have abandoned ship, so if anything they should have been reducing the costs and making it easier to park there to encourage people to go. Before they upgraded them I believe they wouldn't give change or credit part hours.
My local council (Whitehaven) did a similar thing. The justification was 'Well, people have to go shopping and visit solicitors, so they'll pay.' The ignorant tt had obviously never heard of the internet, nor realised that you would have to pay people to park in the sthole.At our local Asda there is a complicated system of pay-and-display where you pay, get a ticket, tear off half and take it into the store where you get a refund when paying for your shopping. At the weekend, some random guy wearing a yellow fluorescent jacket went round the meters, sticking notices over the screen/coin slots which said 'meters out of order, free parking today'. The notices were in place all weekend before anyone noticed them. Just waiting to see if all the thousands of people who parked there over the weekend will get'fines' from the parking company and if they do, will anyone pay them? It has the potential to cause the parking company a lot of trouble.
Thankfully our local council woke up to the madness of raising car parking prices in the town centre and they ran a trial period over Christmas 2014 where parking was £1 for 5 hours. It was so successful in bringing people into the town that they never cancelled the trail and it's now permanent.
I'll still look for the free spaces first.
I'll still look for the free spaces first.
Mr. H said:
Thankfully our local council woke up to the madness of raising car parking prices in the town centre and they ran a trial period over Christmas 2014 where parking was £1 for 5 hours. It was so successful in bringing people into the town that they never cancelled the trail and it's now permanent.
Craziness! What do they hope to gain by improving the local economy!? I hope the councils round here never do this! 
Our local council have the system where you can pay by mobile if you have no change , apart from the ridiculous faff of trying to set up an online account using a mobile , must areas on the seaside part of town have very poor phone reception.
The cost since I returned 20yrs ago has risen from 5p per hour to £2.20 per hour . A rise over the years of 440% .
We also have the problem of a fading town centre , with the local traders trying to persuade the council to help falling on deaf ears .
The cost since I returned 20yrs ago has risen from 5p per hour to £2.20 per hour . A rise over the years of 440% .
We also have the problem of a fading town centre , with the local traders trying to persuade the council to help falling on deaf ears .
Goaty Bill 2 said:
That any organisation existing purely for the purpose of providing services to members of the public, whose personal money in the form of taxes is used to fund both the services and the wages of those whose responsibility it is to provide those services, should deem it reasonable to implement a system whereby those very people are consistently and intentionally inconvenienced and overcharged, is nothing less than moral bankruptcy.
Wherever practicable, those that use the service should pay for the service directly. Expecting the "guv'mint" today for it means that all taxpayers have to pick up the tab.Marvtec said:
I see a problem with this, you're using common sense, fairness and logic, none of which apply in relation to scammy p&d charging (especially at hospitals).
Yup not sure of anyone who really goes to hospital by choice but there are many people who would use hospital parking all day and walk into town or wherever because it's convenient and free.
steveo3002 said:
local car park has upgraded to new pay n display machines , i noticed its got a sign'no change given' so got me wondering how do they account for the money theyve decided to keep , will they be paying tax on it
and what a scammy bunch of money grabbers , machines have been capable of giving change for years
Send them a bill for the change!and what a scammy bunch of money grabbers , machines have been capable of giving change for years
My mother became so enraged at her usual car park machine in the city centre not delivering change so decided to write to the council.
She wrote a sob story followed by a crude calculation of how often she had used the car park and subsequently how much she felt they were due her in return.
She received a reply several weeks later with the amount she claimed to be due, sellotaped to the letter. How very, errrr... council.
She wrote a sob story followed by a crude calculation of how often she had used the car park and subsequently how much she felt they were due her in return.
She received a reply several weeks later with the amount she claimed to be due, sellotaped to the letter. How very, errrr... council.
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