Flying makes the country so small

Flying makes the country so small

Author
Discussion

vanordinaire

Original Poster:

3,701 posts

162 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
I had a wee excursion on a seaplane at the weekend, first time on a plane that wasn't an international holiday.
We took off from Loch Lomond, headed South towards the Clyde then West out to sea, over some of the Inner Hebrides then back to Loch Lomond. We were only out for around and hour but the trip would have taken days by car and boat, I couldn't believe how much of Scotland we covered. I want to do it again and again. Now looking at some kind of flying as a hobby. What's the best way to start? Microlight of my own or some sort of club/share for something a bit bigger?

Eric Mc

122,025 posts

265 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
What type of seaplane were you in?

pushthebutton

1,097 posts

182 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
I haven't ever flown a microlight but, the more I think about it, the more fun it seems. I'm sure it'd be cheaper than a full fat aeroplane and more wind in your hair.

vanordinaire

Original Poster:

3,701 posts

162 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
What type of seaplane were you in?
Cessna 208

Eric Mc

122,025 posts

265 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
The traditional way to learn to fly was in a standard American "spam can" such as a Cessna 150/152 or a Piper PA28 Cherokee. You can still go sown that route and there is nothing wrong with that.

However, over the past 30 years, a whole new era of light aircraft has emerged and a lot of it is to do with new technology materials, engines and instrumentation. Also, the "microlight" world has grown up and many aircraft that are classified as "microlights" because of their weight are pretty much fully capable light aircraft - akin to 1950s era Austers and Piper Cubs.

A number of schools in the UK will even teach you to fly in a 1930s Tiger Moth.

Eric Mc

122,025 posts

265 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
vanordinaire said:
Cessna 208
The 208 is the biggest and most powerful of the typical high winged, single engine Cessna family.

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
It certainly helps that every road is a straight line (within reason) to your destination, with no traffic jams, 50mph roadworks or overtaking artics. Even a little 152 cruising at 90 kts (100mph ish) can cover ground surprisingly quickly.

eharding

13,702 posts

284 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
Nanook said:
vanordinaire said:
I had a wee excursion on a seaplane at the weekend, first time on a plane that wasn't an international holiday.
We took off from Loch Lomond, headed South towards the Clyde then West out to sea, over some of the Inner Hebrides then back to Loch Lomond. We were only out for around and hour but the trip would have taken days by car and boat, I couldn't believe how much of Scotland we covered. I want to do it again and again. Now looking at some kind of flying as a hobby. What's the best way to start? Microlight of my own or some sort of club/share for something a bit bigger?
Glasgow Flying Club.

I was on the LL seaplane a year or so ago, last year for our anniversary my wife bought my a voucher for a flight in a Piper PA-28 Warrior at Glasgow Airport. Had loads of fun, and thinking about going back and taking half a dozen lessons or so to see if it's really for me, then perhaps going for my PPL.
Do it - you have some of the best (if most challenging) flying territory in the UK on your doorstep -in aviation terms - and it would be a shame to pass up the opportunity if you have it.

Got back from the annual radial hoon to Glenforsa and Plockton last week, ranging up to Ullapool, nipping across to Inverness to drop off a couple of mates who had to take the BA shuttle home early, enjoying some of the best weather yet in 10 years of the annual Scotland bash. Enjoyed Islay, Coll & Colonsay in previous years, landed on Staffa (not in the Yak, R44 deemed more suitable), and gutted I missed the year the Nanchang attempted to set the Westray / Papa Westray record.

Even the notoriously high-viz fetish at Oban seems to have calmed down in the past couple of years, and if the fuel is a tad more expensive that less remote spots, there are always free Jammy Dodgers and tea.

Make a point of visiting Glenforsa on Mull - hotel right next to the airstrip, fantastic food, run by an aviator (with a recently acquired shiny Stearman parked outside....)

So, to recap. Do it.

Geneve

3,861 posts

219 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
I would say that flying doesn't make the country small - it makes it feel bigger, and reassuringly beautiful, with far more stunning countryside and landscapes than you'll ever see from the ground. It just makes distances easier and quicker to cover. No better way to travel and appreciate how lucky we are.

Crush

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 30th May 2016
quotequote all
pushthebutton said:
I haven't ever flown a microlight but, the more I think about it, the more fun it seems. I'm sure it'd be cheaper than a full fat aeroplane and more wind in your hair.
You can get 'aeroplane' microlights now. The one I fly (C42) uses just over 10 litres an hour at 70kts.

lee_fr200

5,477 posts

190 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
quotequote all
My dad is a pilot and owned planes and helicopters

Yet he loves his microlights more

He's had a thruster an xair a jabiru and now a rans s6 and he's buying a ikarus c42 shortly

He says microlights are far more fun than planes and helicopters so I'd start with microlights

He's setting up a flying school next year as he's just done his instructor training

PanzerCommander

5,026 posts

218 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
quotequote all
eharding said:
Do it - you have some of the best (if most challenging) flying territory in the UK on your doorstep -in aviation terms - and it would be a shame to pass up the opportunity if you have it.

Got back from the annual radial hoon to Glenforsa and Plockton last week, ranging up to Ullapool, nipping across to Inverness to drop off a couple of mates who had to take the BA shuttle home early, enjoying some of the best weather yet in 10 years of the annual Scotland bash. Enjoyed Islay, Coll & Colonsay in previous years, landed on Staffa (not in the Yak, R44 deemed more suitable), and gutted I missed the year the Nanchang attempted to set the Westray / Papa Westray record.

Even the notoriously high-viz fetish at Oban seems to have calmed down in the past couple of years, and if the fuel is a tad more expensive that less remote spots, there are always free Jammy Dodgers and tea.

Make a point of visiting Glenforsa on Mull - hotel right next to the airstrip, fantastic food, run by an aviator (with a recently acquired shiny Stearman parked outside....)

So, to recap. Do it.
What he said. Doing my PPL (blog on this forum, or a link in my profile) has been the best thing I have done so far. My only regret was not doing it sooner biggrin

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
quotequote all
Was that you? We were sailing at the Scottish Series out of Tarbert on Loch Fyne and saw a seaplane a couple of times. I was trying to work out if it was the Loch Earn or Loch Lomond one...lovely day for it!

vanordinaire

Original Poster:

3,701 posts

162 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
quotequote all
eharding said:
Make a point of visiting Glenforsa on Mull - hotel right next to the airstrip, fantastic food, run by an aviator (with a recently acquired shiny Stearman parked outside....)
You've just re-enforced my decision to learn to fly. The Glenforsa was my local 30 odd years ago (though I could reach it by motorbike from home back then). I'd love to fly out to Mull and land there. Is that within reach on a microlight from the mainland, or would it need to be a 'real' plane?

eharding

13,702 posts

284 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
quotequote all
vanordinaire said:
eharding said:
Make a point of visiting Glenforsa on Mull - hotel right next to the airstrip, fantastic food, run by an aviator (with a recently acquired shiny Stearman parked outside....)
You've just re-enforced my decision to learn to fly. The Glenforsa was my local 30 odd years ago (though I could reach it by motorbike from home back then). I'd love to fly out to Mull and land there. Is that within reach on a microlight from the mainland, or would it need to be a 'real' plane?
Not a problem. They get all sorts visiting - from flocks of weight-shifts to the chap with a newly-purchased Turbo-Porter which he was going to fly back to Canada (although struggling to get much more than 100kts out of it...)

Some video of the Glenforsa fly-in last weekend... http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=...

vanordinaire

Original Poster:

3,701 posts

162 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
quotequote all
eharding said:
vanordinaire said:
eharding said:
Make a point of visiting Glenforsa on Mull - hotel right next to the airstrip, fantastic food, run by an aviator (with a recently acquired shiny Stearman parked outside....)
You've just re-enforced my decision to learn to fly. The Glenforsa was my local 30 odd years ago (though I could reach it by motorbike from home back then). I'd love to fly out to Mull and land there. Is that within reach on a microlight from the mainland, or would it need to be a 'real' plane?
Not a problem. They get all sorts visiting - from flocks of weight-shifts to the chap with a newly-purchased Turbo-Porter which he was going to fly back to Canada (although struggling to get much more than 100kts out of it...)

Some video of the Glenforsa fly-in last weekend... http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?

f=1&t=100350
Thanks for that, loved the video, brought back some good memories.
Really like the look of the biplanes in the video.

mattdaniels

7,353 posts

282 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
quotequote all
vanordinaire said:
Now looking at some kind of flying as a hobby. What's the best way to start?
Plant a money tree. Several, in fact.

Blib

44,061 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st June 2016
quotequote all
The country isn't small. It's just that when you're in an aircraft it's further away.